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April 13, 2021, 06:56:22 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

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April 13, 2021, 07:37:54 AM
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Do you not know the heart of man is full of greed. The poor beg but not enough, many turned to scammers. Some rich people are full of greed, and do not think of second alternative than to betray their working partner. Although what is wrong is wrong, but the world is not balance. Religion help to an extent, because if not religion, people will be worse than this. The world is pleasurable for people that have enough to enjoy, and many saying 'the spirit is willing, but the flesh is week'.

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April 13, 2021, 07:49:22 AM
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Because after commiting crimes they go to mass, go to confession and are forgiven after praying 3 Hail Marys.

This applies to believers; I don't think religion has any influence on non-believers.

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April 13, 2021, 08:19:04 AM
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Because after commiting crimes they go to mass, go to confession and are forgiven after praying 3 Hail Marys.

This applies to believers; I don't think religion has any influence on non-believers.

Thank you. You are very correct

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April 13, 2021, 08:38:39 AM
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Do you not know the heart of man is full of greed. The poor beg but not enough, many turned to scammers. Some rich people are full of greed, and do not think of second alternative than to betray their working partner. Although what is wrong is wrong, but the world is not balance. Religion help to an extent, because if not religion, people will be worse than this. The world is pleasurable for people that have enough to enjoy, and many saying 'the spirit is willing, but the flesh is week'.
This is true but also because most religions believes in the concept of forgiveness and I don't think that religion should be the main deterrent for increase in crime rates, I would say that the best way is to improve societal conditions like housing, food, water, hygiene, education and jobs because most petty cri.inals are just desperate people that can't find any way to make money but to do crime.
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April 13, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
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Religion can not reduce the rate crimes in the society because many people don't practise what the religion teaches and the reason behind this are of two things.
1) An individual understanding about what the truth definition of love and I can say the crime increase was due to political greed and errors (which make empty promises to some people and the people later put law into their hands by committing crime to gain the attention of the government). Just like the saying "a hungry man is an angry man".
2) Some religions leader preached hatred and what will mislead their followers than love.
If there's love mr A will hardly hurt or kill mr B because of money or position and what will reduce crime is individual maturity and understanding about making the world a better place and spreading love through various standards.

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April 13, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind
But the society is not equal, not giving opportunities equally, some people take the advantage on everything with the help of money they have while some people failed to reach even though they have skills that is where the issue comes. And people who do crimes also has their own reasons and it can be good from their own perspectives.
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April 13, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?

Crime happens in all communities. It happens in rich, middle-class and poor neighborhoods, suburban and rural communities. Religion is a tool to control people and not a means of addressing the social problems we face. Any religion that claims to have the power to prevent suicide, murder, molestation, rape or discrimination of any kind is false. We should look elsewhere for a solution to the problems the community is facing.
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April 13, 2021, 04:02:20 PM
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Good morals and individual uprightness do not emanate from religion, it's an individual's decision to do what's right, that's the more reason why you can find an atheist with proper morals and one who's religious causing all sorts of mayhem in the community. Imo, one's upbringing and close community, not religion is responsible to a large percent in how that person behaves, just as it's said "if you live amongst thieves, there's a high chance you'll steal".

Having said that, I think quite a lot of emphasis is placed on religion, and people expect religion to produce an 'utopian' society which isn't supposed to be so, much of the problems today is caused by the corrupt government and their inability to provide sufficiently for their citizens, which most times leads them to commit some of the vices in the OP.

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April 13, 2021, 04:11:42 PM
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Religion is a relic that was useful at the time it was created (thousands of years ago) for trying to give reason to much that was unknown in the world and acting as a basic legal framework for people at the time. However in the current world, where science has opened up our eyes to so much information, it feels a bit like a bad hangover that needs to go away. I feel like religion, either through different interpretations of the same text or different religions altogether, is currently the cause of so much misery in the world. If you resign yourself to fate or it "being God's will" then you are effectively using a lazy cop-out. If God does exist, why does he allow children to get bone cancer? Why does he allow babies in Africa to catch debilitating diseases that ruin their lives? You have always got to keep an open mind in life, but if he does exist, then maybe he is a cruel being that does not deserve to be worshiped. Man is perfectly capable of judging man, based on how societal law evolves and how the morality of the majority changes over time.

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It comes to the idea that if the person is really good, he would follow what the religion teaches him. But if a man has a deceitful heart, there's no religion that will make him meek.
And there's already a division in religions because of their beliefs, the other say that the other is false and they're the only one who's right but can't prove themselves to be right.

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April 13, 2021, 09:10:23 PM
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Religion is a relic that was useful at the time it was created (thousands of years ago) for trying to give reason to much that was unknown in the world and acting as a basic legal framework for people at the time. However in the current world, where science has opened up our eyes to so much information, it feels a bit like a bad hangover that needs to go away. I feel like religion, either through different interpretations of the same text or different religions altogether, is currently the cause of so much misery in the world. If you resign yourself to fate or it "being God's will" then you are effectively using a lazy cop-out. If God does exist, why does he allow children to get bone cancer? Why does he allow babies in Africa to catch debilitating diseases that ruin their lives? You have always got to keep an open mind in life, but if he does exist, then maybe he is a cruel being that does not deserve to be worshiped. Man is perfectly capable of judging man, based on how societal law evolves and how the morality of the majority changes over time.


It comes to the idea that if the person is really good, he would follow what the religion teaches him. But if a man has a deceitful heart, there's no religion that will make him meek.
And there's already a division in religions because of their beliefs, the other say that the other is false and they're the only one who's right but can't prove themselves to be right.


Those are some really interesting religions you both have there.

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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
I am not a religious person but just an opinion, I feel like(no matter what the religion is) the reason is sloth, gluttony, lust greed, envy, pride and wrath. with or without religion as long as there are these things crime will always be present.

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April 14, 2021, 07:50:38 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Because its not about your religion or if you're a religious person.

Regardless of what beliefs you're following, its more on what kind of person you are.

Many people are not religious but their heart is pure.

Same goes for people often go to church but they're heartless inside and likely to do a bad deed.






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April 14, 2021, 12:13:13 PM
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According to nonnewsledger.com, Top 10 Reasons for Crime are:
  • Poverty. This is perhaps one of the most concrete reasons why people commit crimes.
  • Peer Pressure. This is a new form of concern in the modern world.
  • Drugs.
  • Politics.
  • Religion.
  • Family Conditions.
  • The Society.
  • Unemployment.
  • Deprivation.
  • Unfair judicial system.

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No one can escape from the fact; people still fight on racial divides and sectarian issues in society. Even though practicing own religion is a basic human right, yet many uneducated and illiterate people fail to understand it. In several criminal cases, religious fanatics have been accused of murdering innocent people based on their school of thought.

So, as we see, religion can help to reduce crime rates in a particular community, it is also one of the world's top causes of crime. Religious fervour can incite feelings of aggression towards those that do not share their religious beliefs.
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April 14, 2021, 04:03:35 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

Because beliefs alone can't change a person innate personality. There will always be a person, no matter what the religion is will do something you actually be surprised to see. There are even cases of priest being a pedophile, Pastor who kills someone, Chapel Server who steals and many more.

There are many hypocrites in every religion, who looks like someone very religious in church hours but different person in different days.

So yeah, religion has is not significant to reduction of crime rates in the system.

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April 14, 2021, 04:37:55 PM
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Religion has been a thing of controversy and I'll emphasise on Christianity as a religion because, that's the one I know much about and I am a Christian myself. One issue with religion is how one church views other churches and have different doctrims in honouring just one God. I wonder if churches are really helping, with the amount of churches in our world today and the resources available to them, the crime rate in our world would have been reduced to the nearest minimum. Sadly, this isn't the case as the crime rate increases by the day. Is it that, people aren't really attending these churches? What is the issue here or are the churches not passing on the proper message or its a thing of the congregation not practicing what is been thought.
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April 14, 2021, 06:02:22 PM
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Your words are completely correct. Religion should make our life a better place to live in, but what happens is the opposite most of the time. I think the reason is the difference in the interpretation of religion. Each person in his own way, every person believes himself is right and the rest of people are wrong, even those who belong To one religion, you find between them a difference of views, conflicts and perhaps hatred. This happens in all the major religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
The stagnation in thinking and the lack of acceptance of the other opinion is the biggest problem of religion, which feeds these tendencies with more violence and hatred.


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What's better about dying? Christians know that there is an afterlife in Heaven or Hell. They know it lasts forever. So, any idea about focusing on religion for this life, is really missing the main focus.

As far as opinions about religion go, many opinions ignore God altogether. And that is what trouble is all about... ignoring God and what He says.

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April 15, 2021, 06:19:54 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

In my country religion is declining very fast, nobody is going to Church anymore. Kids these days don't even know the meaning behind the religious holidays. The only time when the church is in the newspaper it is because of some scandals. People just don't believe in God anymore. Which doesn't need to be a bad thing. If we look at the past we see that almost everybody was religious back in the day. It was very common to leave a lot of money to the church so you could go to heaven. But did this help to reduce crime rates? I don't think so, crime was pretty common in the past as it is today.
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