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November 11, 2021, 08:03:50 PM
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I live in a Christian Country where people believe in God, goes to church ang always pray but crime rate is still high. Why? I think because of the extensive poverty that some people resort to robbery and killings plus  the alcohol and drug related crimes. I have seen the priest and pastors doing their duties and responsibilities teaching  the Gospel, visiting the prison and doing bible studies and all other missionary works but still humans have freewill and judgement. While I think religion can help creating ethical framework and a regulator for values in a day to day life but it is still enough to fight or reduce crimes and violence.

In some cases, religion enables and encourages discrimination and crimes against some people.

Religion can also be a good way to protect knowledge only if the people who're managing the books of those religious books are good and want the good of others.
Otherwise, they can misinterpret the lines written inside the books and make the sheep follow what servers them.
The second reason is what I think is going on.

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November 11, 2021, 08:20:33 PM
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Exactly,Religion and as stood as a means of sperating people who would have being of great help to each other,and the nation as well.There are several religious practices in the world,some of which are bad,while some are good.
Some persons have decided to stay without believing in anything called religion.
Whether good or bad,I have seen religion as a means of making people not to see things from thesame angle or perspectives,rather it puts confusion in the mind of people.
The introduction of a good and evil as to persons based on the religion they choose has brought some major pain to our world. Don't get me wrong, religion is actually a good thing because, it tries to input good morals in humans to watch out on there actions but then, the context of making it based on either you worship as they do is where it all goes sideways. Humanity should be put at right and at first before anything, we ought to acknowledge the human person before looking out for a way of worship if we should at all.
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November 17, 2021, 09:13:38 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion as a practice just as you have said does not completely eradicate self and one's nature/attributes. The practice of true religion, just helps to put these attributes under a check. Unfortunately, many do not practice true religion and their true nature that has been set either genetically or environmentally induced, has not been put under check and they only just hide under the the cover of being religious.

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November 19, 2021, 04:45:48 AM
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It has transformed so many life from bad to good. Religion can change everybody only those who seek for it, religion plays good role in the world.
What can transform bad to good is environment because environment changes the lives of creator which science called adaptation, combined with plants and animals way of living and this region just like what we learn from old living

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November 20, 2021, 08:09:41 PM
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I'm an atheist, I despise religion and I'm generally against all of them. However, I don't get why people need religion in order to behave. It's pure logic that you shouldn't steal, commit murder and so on, why do you need religion to tell you otherwise?

On top of that, the general idea is that good actions will get you to so-called heaven, and people actually abide to that.

 
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November 21, 2021, 07:00:06 PM
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Those at the highest levels of Religion performs the worst of it all, although all sins are equally weighed by the Bible.
Lately I do not put or give I'm too Religion,they simply the worst and not doing too well,you would see preachers boasting about wealth and fame, rather than preaching the word that was committed to themselves.
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November 21, 2021, 09:30:20 PM
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Those at the highest levels of Religion performs the worst of it all, although all sins are equally weighed by the Bible.
Lately I do not put or give I'm too Religion,they simply the worst and not doing too well,you would see preachers boasting about wealth and fame, rather than preaching the word that was committed to themselves.
This generation is trash you know.

True, today when a person walks down the street and sees a church, just pay 10 minutes of attention and they will see very sad things, believers give money to the church, and church priests take the money and buy luxury clothes, cars. luxury and luxury homes. we have reached such a low and disgusting level to see rankings of the richest priests in the world. How the hell does a priest who doesn't work, doesn't have any business get rich? they get rich thanks to the money people donate to the church.

they take hard-earned money from the poor

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November 22, 2021, 01:24:35 PM
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Those at the highest levels of Religion performs the worst of it all, although all sins are equally weighed by the Bible.
Lately I do not put or give I'm too Religion,they simply the worst and not doing too well,you would see preachers boasting about wealth and fame, rather than preaching the word that was committed to themselves.
This generation is trash you know.
You are right , but it ought not to be so, is as if the religion we use to know is different from the one we have now. Religion  is supposed to make a change but people are getting corrupt more.

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November 24, 2021, 10:37:43 PM
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There are several religious groups in the world today,which different people of different diversities believe in. It is accepted and known that there is freedom of worship,but the way some religions are castigating the other is really not encouraging.
Some humans think and believe that some of the religions shouldn't have existed,forgeting about that part they entitles every human being to worship whoever or which ever thing he or she deems it fit to worship.
If religious sentiment can be remove from our mind,the society will definitely be a better place to live.
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November 24, 2021, 11:02:14 PM
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Those at the highest levels of Religion performs the worst of it all, although all sins are equally weighed by the Bible.
Lately I do not put or give I'm too Religion,they simply the worst and not doing too well,you would see preachers boasting about wealth and fame, rather than preaching the word that was committed to themselves.
This generation is trash you know.

True, today when a person walks down the street and sees a church, just pay 10 minutes of attention and they will see very sad things, believers give money to the church, and church priests take the money and buy luxury clothes, cars. luxury and luxury homes. we have reached such a low and disgusting level to see rankings of the richest priests in the world. How the hell does a priest who doesn't work, doesn't have any business get rich? they get rich thanks to the money people donate to the church.

they take hard-earned money from the poor

You know that isn't always the case, right? Who often time are the most charitable? Religious people. And when many religious organizations receive charitable donations, you don't think a lot of it might go towards helping people, with a few cases of abuse? You can make a large business out of religion, see scientology (which is more a cult designed as a belief system oppose to a religion). That doesn't mean it's immoral to accept money as a religious figure or organization.
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November 25, 2021, 04:34:03 AM
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In my opinion, adherents of a devout religion will not commit evil. Because every religion in this world does not teach evil, even religion educates us to do good according to their respective religions. Evil occurs because someone does not achieve what he wants, that is:
 - Popularity
 - Justice
 - Position
 - Perspective
The proof is that in our country there are many adherents of religions who live in harmony side by side and are full of tolerance.
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February 07, 2022, 11:39:17 AM
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There's thousands of religions in the world and every religion claims that it's the true and best choice for you. However most of us didn't choose that religions we all became religious once you born in a religious family your parents will teach you the rules of it and you don't really have a choice. I don't know alot aboit other religions but in my case i know There's alot of good points and rules that makes our life better and teaches us peace and love. But at the same time There's some dark sides of it. One lf them is in my religion it doesn't matter how good you're, working honest person as much as you should believe in that religion. Because once this rule of not believing on it that this religion is the correct one and all others are wrong you want enter heaven. Thisone rules makes you a bit questioning.
Without talking of the history of each religion because most of thel started and became powerful with wars to spread their claiming message. And they by themselves committed many crimes.

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February 07, 2022, 06:14:49 PM
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In my opinion, adherents of a devout religion will not commit evil. Because every religion in this world does not teach evil, even religion educates us to do good according to their respective religions. Evil occurs because someone does not achieve what he wants, that is:
 - Popularity
 - Justice
 - Position
 - Perspective
The proof is that in our country there are many adherents of religions who live in harmony side by side and are full of tolerance.
There is one thing we ought to understand here when it comes to religion and evil. One core characteristics of a Christian is forgiveness. The holy book teaches that you turn  the other chick when slapped on the other. A lot of persons would never do that.
When you look at the Jihades, they believe in persecution of unbelievers in their religion yet, you would be told that, Muslim is a religion of peace and of course it is. If you look at the 5 pillars of Muslim, there is no violence about it. Yet, these persons perpetuate these evil against there neighbours. He Christian did there's some century ago and called themselves Christian crusaders.

In essence, its subject to interpretation and as such, through religion, good or evil can be perpetuated. Depending on who is preaching and the hearts that is receiving.

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February 09, 2022, 08:35:21 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

I think the part I've highlighted in red may be significant.
Many people are born into a religion, they don't actively choose that religion, it just happens to them.
Whereas people who are born into a non-religious family, who choose a religion later, are actively selecting that religion.
Perhaps people in the second scenario are more likely to try to follow the teachings of that religion?








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February 09, 2022, 04:10:06 PM
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In my opinion, adherents of a devout religion will not commit evil. Because every religion in this world does not teach evil, even religion educates us to do good according to their respective religions. Evil occurs because someone does not achieve what he wants, that is:
 - Popularity
 - Justice
 - Position
 - Perspective
The proof is that in our country there are many adherents of religions who live in harmony side by side and are full of tolerance.
There is one thing we ought to understand here when it comes to religion and evil. One core characteristics of a Christian is forgiveness. The holy book teaches that you turn  the other chick when slapped on the other. A lot of persons would never do that.
When you look at the Jihades, they believe in persecution of unbelievers in their religion yet, you would be told that, Muslim is a religion of peace and of course it is. If you look at the 5 pillars of Muslim, there is no violence about it. Yet, these persons perpetuate these evil against there neighbours. He Christian did there's some century ago and called themselves Christian crusaders.

In essence, its subject to interpretation and as such, through religion, good or evil can be perpetuated. Depending on who is preaching and the hearts that is receiving.

I want to add a little more to your statement.  
I am not going to compare Christianity or the Muslim religion. All religions should be respected.
And you know, no religion is perfect. Errors in religion occur only when we become fanatical, and bigotry leads us to the worst.

A few days ago, I saw a twitter hashtag about "Babri Mosque" that some Hindus had gone to the Mosque and vandalized. their claim was that Mosque was their temple a long long time ago. Actually, such behavior is never supported by Hinduism. Not only Hinduism but also not by any religion.
Again I've seen the news that some fake Muslims had gone to the temples of Hindus and vandalized them. why fake? cause such behavior is never supported by Islam.

The motto of every religion is to establish peace. And the incident seen in the news does not mean worship of religion but crime by worshiping religion. Religion should be practiced from the heart by avoiding bigotry.

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February 09, 2022, 08:11:28 PM
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There is one thing we ought to understand here when it comes to religion and evil. One core characteristics of a Christian is forgiveness. The holy book teaches that you turn  the other chick when slapped on the other. A lot of persons would never do that.
When you look at the Jihades, they believe in persecution of unbelievers in their religion yet, you would be told that, Muslim is a religion of peace and of course it is. If you look at the 5 pillars of Muslim, there is no violence about it. Yet, these persons perpetuate these evil against there neighbours. He Christian did there's some century ago and called themselves Christian crusaders.
In essence, its subject to interpretation and as such, through religion, good or evil can be perpetuated. Depending on who is preaching and the hearts that is receiving.
I want to add a little more to your statement.  
I am not going to compare Christianity or the Muslim religion. All religions should be respected.
And you know, no religion is perfect. Errors in religion occur only when we become fanatical, and bigotry leads us to the worst.
A few days ago, I saw a twitter hashtag about "Babri Mosque" that some Hindus had gone to the Mosque and vandalized. their claim was that Mosque was their temple a long long time ago. Actually, such behavior is never supported by Hinduism. Not only Hinduism but also not by any religion.
Again I've seen the news that some fake Muslims had gone to the temples of Hindus and vandalized them. why fake? cause such behavior is never supported by Islam.
The motto of every religion is to establish peace. And the incident seen in the news does not mean worship of religion but crime by worshiping religion. Religion should be practiced from the heart by avoiding bigotry.

But the unfortunate thing is that besides bigotry, some people in our society have been committing crimes using religion, you know.
After committing any crime, they survive on the pretext of religion.

And priests of the mosque, churches & temples are most involved in this work, on whom we rely in devotion. they are just playing with people's faith.
Hopefully one day these problems will be removed and our society will be able to practice pure religion.

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February 10, 2022, 05:20:58 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind
I think the part I've highlighted in red may be significant.
Many people are born into a religion, they don't actively choose that religion, it just happens to them.
Whereas people who are born into a non-religious family, who choose a religion later, are actively selecting that religion.
Perhaps people in the second scenario are more likely to try to follow the teachings of that religion?

Actually, the main basis of religion is faith. Where there is no faith, there is no religious consciousness. Whether it is through the family to enter into religious education or even from an atheist family if one comes on his/her own initiative he has to keep faith in religion.

The person who is enlightened in the light of religion from an atheist family basically tries hard to know the issues of religion, to study them. Because those of us who come from religious backgrounds know almost everything. But those who follow the path of religion on their own initiative have a lot of unknown things which they intend to know more about.

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February 10, 2022, 06:48:39 PM
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Actually, the main basis of religion is faith. Where there is no faith, there is no religious consciousness. Whether it is through the family to enter into religious education or even from an atheist family if one comes on his/her own initiative he has to keep faith in religion.

The person who is enlightened in the light of religion from an atheist family basically tries hard to know the issues of religion, to study them. Because those of us who come from religious backgrounds know almost everything. But those who follow the path of religion on their own initiative have a lot of unknown things which they intend to know more about.

I was talking more about people who nominally belong to a religion because they are born into it, but have no real faith and no inclination to follow or even to learn the rules. Apparently 53% of the UK population is Christian, but churches are almost deserted. The number of people who would say they belong to a religion - at least in this country - is far greater than the number who actually follow it.






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February 10, 2022, 07:49:45 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind
I think the part I've highlighted in red may be significant.
Many people are born into a religion, they don't actively choose that religion, it just happens to them.
Whereas people who are born into a non-religious family, who choose a religion later, are actively selecting that religion.
Perhaps people in the second scenario are more likely to try to follow the teachings of that religion?

Actually, the main basis of religion is faith. Where there is no faith, there is no religious consciousness. Whether it is through the family to enter into religious education or even from an atheist family if one comes on his/her own initiative he has to keep faith in religion.

The person who is enlightened in the light of religion from an atheist family basically tries hard to know the issues of religion, to study them. Because those of us who come from religious backgrounds know almost everything. But those who follow the path of religion on their own initiative have a lot of unknown things which they intend to know more about.

Most religious people do not know what planet are they on.

Where is heaven?  Where is hell? 'Metaphysical' I bet, lol.

Religious people know diddly squat.

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February 11, 2022, 07:12:56 AM
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Religion just contend for supremacy. There is no religion without Regional sentiments. No religion without dogma. No religion without manipulators. No religion without corruption controllers at the top.
Religion has divided humanity extremely.
Religion is not righteousness.
Yet, man has overlooked the greatest religion called humanity in the quest to achieve adulterated religions.
All the points you make is good and is reasonable enough to understand, but am against the point that States no regions with manipulation, so that point will be figured out for argument because some regions they practice it subsequently and no chance for it manipulation and especially the native ways of doctrine that is not reversible and can not be manipulate for something else without the awareness of their gods. So region remain constant no touched and amend the region with manipulation
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