Religion in our society

[Gosgosking]

When religion is the main supporter of many manifestations of violence, it becomes involved in one way or another in perpetuating the situation due to its control over minds.
Unfortunately, despite attempts to develop, religions have failed to reform their systems, which, although they were able to modify some of the concepts, but they could not dispense with the racist view towards the different other.

Many people does not know the real meaning of region and because of their misunderstanding of religion, they uses it to cause violence in the society making us to hate one another. Some people see religion and a light that shineth I'm out darkness seeing other people that do not take region serious as unreasonable.
Religion is strong and we should not use it to harm other people who does not have thesame perspective with us. Region should be for peace not for evil and we should all go for peace than supporting those that are using it to cause havoc.

Because of our different religion we belong to many religious worshippers have turn to enemies,  and our religious leaders are not helping matters.  Religious leaders are supposed to teach worshippers are to respect other religion it will make religion to be better in the society.

[Tellarmachine]

The trueness of the existence of God the creator of all things has never been in doubt. It is evidence in creature. There would have been no meaning in  the reality of creation if not for the revelation of God the supreme creator. Therefore the assertion that there is no God is not  only baseless but totally devoid of sound reasoning since the evidence, as I have said earlier, is apparent in creation. This write-up has never, would never and could never have been here as a creation if not for me, the creator. Not withstanding, the society has continued to be bitter at religion for its constant deviation from the goodness and mercy it were to be known for. Hence, religion has been seen as worth nots and God as either cruel to the plights of mankind or is non-existing. Yet, there is really one true religion that stands out over all for the scripture.

[Agbe]

why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

Human heart is desperately wicked. Thomas Hobbs and Jean-Jacques Rousseau as already said it in their social contract theories. Rousseau said, man is good and peaceful in the society but the institutions corrupt the peaceful mindset of man. Hobbs against Rousseau's theory on man and said man is wicked from birth. From thses exponents of man behaviour, you can see that religious has nothing to do with man. The question we have to ask ourselves here is, where are the institutions that corrupt the mind of individuals? But as for me these institutions are the government institutions like Legislature, Executive and the Judiciary. why? Because they are the law makers, implementers of the law and interpret the law. All the above mentioned are self-centered. It is not public centered. so the people are always angry with the system.  According to Augustine of Hippo in his City of God, he made mentioned of two cities. City of man and city of God. City of man is the city of violent, corruption and unrest while the City of God is the city of peace. http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/history/dfg/jesu/augcity.htm

[BADecker]

^^^ In addition to the above...

The hearts of people being supremely evil, how could God make us so that we could live, when our hearts want to destroy us from the beginning of our lives? Here's how He did it.

However old you are, think back to when you were 20-years-old. Didn't a year seem to take a lot longer to pass by when you were 20? Think about 10-y-o. At ten a year took a long time to go by. And 5-y-o time took forever to get to 6-y-o. What about 3?, 2?, 1? How many of our years were we in Mommy's tummy?

Sure, nine months is nine months. But as we remember things back and back at our younger ages, a year seemed to take longer the further we go back. If we could be aware of time passing way back in Mommy's tummy, how many thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of years would that have been for us?

During all those thousands of years, God is forcing us to live. Not only are we being forced to live, but we are being pushed into the habit of living. The evil in us hasn't forced us to die, because God took it out of our hands, and forced the habit of living into us, to give us time to live.

Then we are born, and now we are out here, and we have control of our lives, and we are gradually killing ourselves by not remembering how to live... even though we had thousands of years in Mommy's tummy to practice living, to get into the habit of life. We are overcoming the habit of living God forced into us.

Out here it only takes us 70 or 80 years to forget how to live. Then we die. All our own doing by not maintaining the mindset (maybe the cellular mindset) that we had when we were in Mommy's tummy for thousands of years.

We are natural born self-killers. It's only the way that God let us come into being that's keeping us alive for as long as we stay alive. We really need to seek God for help, so that we can stay alive longer, or at least find new life after we die here.

[Kavelj22]

The trueness of the existence of God the creator of all things has never been in doubt. It is evidence in creature. There would have been no meaning in  the reality of creation if not for the revelation of God the supreme creator. Therefore the assertion that there is no God is not  only baseless but totally devoid of sound reasoning since the evidence, as I have said earlier, is apparent in creation. This write-up has never, would never and could never have been here as a creation if not for me, the creator. Not withstanding, the society has continued to be bitter at religion for its constant deviation from the goodness and mercy it were to be known for. Hence, religion has been seen as worth nots and God as either cruel to the plights of mankind or is non-existing. Yet, there is really one true religion that stands out over all for the scripture.

Your attachment is a realistic embodiment of the believer's mentality, which believes that it monopolizes the truth.
This is not the place to discuss the extent of the authenticity of the Christian narrative about creation and its causes, but all religions claim to possess this eternal truth and that all other narratives are erroneous, allowing room for nonsense difference that will necessarily lead to violence. The origin of religious violence is the ability of this system to operate outside the frameworks of reason and logic, and the further away we are from religion, the more inclined we become to harmony and peaceful coexistence. I really hope you realize this someday.

[BADecker]

The trueness of the existence of God the creator of all things has never been in doubt. It is evidence in creature. There would have been no meaning in  the reality of creation if not for the revelation of God the supreme creator. Therefore the assertion that there is no God is not  only baseless but totally devoid of sound reasoning since the evidence, as I have said earlier, is apparent in creation. This write-up has never, would never and could never have been here as a creation if not for me, the creator. Not withstanding, the society has continued to be bitter at religion for its constant deviation from the goodness and mercy it were to be known for. Hence, religion has been seen as worth nots and God as either cruel to the plights of mankind or is non-existing. Yet, there is really one true religion that stands out over all for the scripture.

Your attachment is a realistic embodiment of the believer's mentality, which believes that it monopolizes the truth.
This is not the place to discuss the extent of the authenticity of the Christian narrative about creation and its causes, but all religions claim to possess this eternal truth and that all other narratives are erroneous, allowing room for nonsense difference that will necessarily lead to violence. The origin of religious violence is the ability of this system to operate outside the frameworks of reason and logic, and the further away we are from religion, the more inclined we become to harmony and peaceful coexistence. I really hope you realize this someday.

That's only because the attempt to be further away from religion is a religion in itself. Once this religion has become your position, you can go into other religions, like the religion of killing people through abortion, or the religion of making war on people of another country, or even the religion of becoming a thief and robber or swindler.

Pick your religion, but realize that even a religion of doing good to people won't last without God.

[yourthankyou]

Religion is all about good, but sometimes people distort its meaning a lot, which causes wars, hate, and violence

[Kavelj22]

When religion is the main supporter of many manifestations of violence, it becomes involved in one way or another in perpetuating the situation due to its control over minds.
Unfortunately, despite attempts to develop, religions have failed to reform their systems, which, although they were able to modify some of the concepts, but they could not dispense with the racist view towards the different other.

Many people does not know the real meaning of region and because of their misunderstanding of religion, they uses it to cause violence in the society making us to hate one another. Some people see religion and a light that shineth I'm out darkness seeing other people that do not take region serious as unreasonable.
Religion is strong and we should not use it to harm other people who does not have thesame perspective with us. Region should be for peace not for evil and we should all go for peace than supporting those that are using it to cause havoc.

Because of our different religion we belong to many religious worshippers have turn to enemies,  and our religious leaders are not helping matters.  Religious leaders are supposed to teach worshippers are to respect other religion it will make religion to be better in the society.

Since religions are based on complete acceptance of metaphysical ideas, their continuity is hostage to one of two things, either the establishment of a religious dictatorship, as happens with political Islam in our time, or the blessing of a military dictatorship. This is, of course, because the civil state denies it all the ways that religion can exploit to impose its control.
This can be summarized as violence is a system of life for religion to continue and this explains its continuity for many centuries.

[Frankolala]

 Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

[Kavelj22]

The trueness of the existence of God the creator of all things has never been in doubt. It is evidence in creature. There would have been no meaning in  the reality of creation if not for the revelation of God the supreme creator. Therefore the assertion that there is no God is not  only baseless but totally devoid of sound reasoning since the evidence, as I have said earlier, is apparent in creation. This write-up has never, would never and could never have been here as a creation if not for me, the creator. Not withstanding, the society has continued to be bitter at religion for its constant deviation from the goodness and mercy it were to be known for. Hence, religion has been seen as worth nots and God as either cruel to the plights of mankind or is non-existing. Yet, there is really one true religion that stands out over all for the scripture.

Your attachment is a realistic embodiment of the believer's mentality, which believes that it monopolizes the truth.
This is not the place to discuss the extent of the authenticity of the Christian narrative about creation and its causes, but all religions claim to possess this eternal truth and that all other narratives are erroneous, allowing room for nonsense difference that will necessarily lead to violence. The origin of religious violence is the ability of this system to operate outside the frameworks of reason and logic, and the further away we are from religion, the more inclined we become to harmony and peaceful coexistence. I really hope you realize this someday.

That's only because the attempt to be further away from religion is a religion in itself. Once this religion has become your position, you can go into other religions, like the religion of killing people through abortion, or the religion of making war on people of another country, or even the religion of becoming a thief and robber or swindler.

Pick your religion, but realize that even a religion of doing good to people won't last without God.

I don't understand why you insist on calling this religion. Belief in universal values is called belief in universal values and not in a particular religion. Human beliefs are not limited to religion, there are sects that believe in other things.
There is a clear definition of religion that all schools agree on. I'm not playing with concepts here.
I hope I understood your words correctly.

[BADecker]

That's only because the attempt to be further away from religion is a religion in itself. Once this religion has become your position, you can go into other religions, like the religion of killing people through abortion, or the religion of making war on people of another country, or even the religion of becoming a thief and robber or swindler.

Pick your religion, but realize that even a religion of doing good to people won't last without God.

I don't understand why you insist on calling this religion. Belief in universal values is called belief in universal values and not in a particular religion. Human beliefs are not limited to religion, there are sects that believe in other things.
There is a clear definition of religion that all schools agree on. I'm not playing with concepts here.
I hope I understood your words correctly.

Religion in the dictionay:

religion

noun

...

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

Look at any religion. It has its dogmas, its rules, its instructions, and all kinds of parts to it. Everybody who reads or hears about the parts, thinks different thoughts than everybody else who reads and hears the same thing. The thinking might not be greatly different. But it is different, because no two people think exactly the same thing the same way.

This means that everybody who says that he is a Catholic is different in his religion than everybody else who says the same. All formally religious people are at least mistaken about what they believe. But if they insist that they are the same religion with everybody else of that religion, then they are liars.

This means that the "clear definition of religion that all schools agree on" is not so clear after all. And the dictionary shows this about it.

So, since everybody is a liar with regard to everybody else pertaining to the religions of their individual lives, we can go to science fact (not theory) that shows the odds of there not being a Creator as entirely wrong. The complexity of things shows that this universe couldn't have come about as it is without an extremely powerful, outside Intelligence having brought it into being. Such a powerful Intelligence matches our definition of the word "God" in all the ways each of us might individually think of the words within the definition.

[Kavelj22]

That's only because the attempt to be further away from religion is a religion in itself. Once this religion has become your position, you can go into other religions, like the religion of killing people through abortion, or the religion of making war on people of another country, or even the religion of becoming a thief and robber or swindler.

Pick your religion, but realize that even a religion of doing good to people won't last without God.

I don't understand why you insist on calling this religion. Belief in universal values is called belief in universal values and not in a particular religion. Human beliefs are not limited to religion, there are sects that believe in other things.
There is a clear definition of religion that all schools agree on. I'm not playing with concepts here.
I hope I understood your words correctly.

Religion in the dictionay:

religion

noun

...

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

Look at any religion. It has its dogmas, its rules, its instructions, and all kinds of parts to it. Everybody who reads or hears about the parts, thinks different thoughts than everybody else who reads and hears the same thing. The thinking might not be greatly different. But it is different, because no two people think exactly the same thing the same way.

This means that everybody who says that he is a Catholic is different in his religion than everybody else who says the same. All formally religious people are at least mistaken about what they believe. But if they insist that they are the same religion with everybody else of that religion, then they are liars.

This means that the "clear definition of religion that all schools agree on" is not so clear after all. And the dictionary shows this about it.

So, since everybody is a liar with regard to everybody else pertaining to the religions of their individual lives, we can go to science fact (not theory) that shows the odds of there not being a Creator as entirely wrong. The complexity of things shows that this universe couldn't have come about as it is without an extremely powerful, outside Intelligence having brought it into being. Such a powerful Intelligence matches our definition of the word "God" in all the ways each of us might individually think of the words within the definition.

This is one of the definitions of religion. Maybe it's basically a linguistic definition.
Psychology defines it in one way and sociology defines it in another. You will find different definitions of it in almost all dictionaries.
Generally, when you say “religion” to any person in any society of any culture, he will understand that it is the means of God’s communication with his human creatures through which he expresses himself and his thoughts. Of course, everyone believes that he has the correct religion, which confirms the naivety of the idea, in my opinion.

[Newlifebtc]

Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

Maybe I think you did not understand what what they're trying to expanciate with religion and and society because when you are asked to define what is religion and he also asked to define society. You will not see that society is fog different from religion but the boat work in accordance and would have a different meaning without religion society cannot function and with that society region cannot function so all this is totally the character of human behaviour as a woman adoption and the adaptation for one environment or one particularly ethnicity

[BADecker]

Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

Maybe I think you did not understand what what they're trying to expanciate with religion and and society because when you are asked to define what is religion and he also asked to define society. You will not see that society is fog different from religion but the boat work in accordance and would have a different meaning without religion society cannot function and with that society region cannot function so all this is totally the character of human behaviour as a woman adoption and the adaptation for one environment or one particularly ethnicity

Right and true religion is this >>> to help everybody who has a real need, usually the poor, children, the weak and the sick, etc. And to do it for little or no pay.

And then to come to faith in the fact that when you die, it's really that Jesus is taking you out of this life to a new life in a new universe that has no problems, to live in joy for ever and ever.

[minime0105]

Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

Maybe I think you did not understand what what they're trying to expanciate with religion and and society because when you are asked to define what is religion and he also asked to define society. You will not see that society is fog different from religion but the boat work in accordance and would have a different meaning without religion society cannot function and with that society region cannot function so all this is totally the character of human behaviour as a woman adoption and the adaptation for one environment or one particularly ethnicity

Right and true religion is this >>> to help everybody who has a real need, usually the poor, children, the weak and the sick, etc. And to do it for little or no pay.

And then to come to faith in the fact that when you die, it's really that Jesus is taking you out of this life to a new life in a new universe that has no problems, to live in joy for ever and ever.

The religion you are emphasising is only meant for Christians and the ocean Muslims that is when you come into your religion not about culture. What from things that I notice even normal cultured environment do also love one another they give things two people without asking for return and I know that's such character is a character of a good religion but not everybody that follow such kind of behaviour. So I'm of this solution that stipulate that givers never lack and it's the religion i think your point deriving at

[yazher]

If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

If they don't follow their evil thoughts, it could happen and when people don't desire ranks and fame, it could happen but people nowadays have their own wants and mostly they want what people have and that's the start of the problem. Jealousy and hate trigger the unstoppable problem because it creates anger, and greed, and people who have this kind of trait often hurt their relatives or friend if they cannot control it which is kinda hard if they don't have any spiritual laws to follow. Muslim have their own answers to these problems and if you read their solutions regarding it, you will be mesmerized by the answer, just read it without any bias or hate just to have an idea why people think a certain religion will have the answer to today's world problem.

I recommend this video to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX2sT5-HQBQ&ab_channel=cutesunshine

[BADecker]

Religion is not changing people in our society today because they only listen without practising. People believe they are the ones to get everything they want themselves without having faith in God.This has led people to so many evil forgetting that God has shown us how to live our lives.
  The devil knows we are humans so he brought sickness,diseases,problems and difficulties to make us afraid and believe there is no God so that we can do the other way round which is the evil way.
   If you don't have good morals that is a negative behaviour,a corrupt person can kill, all these are the devil's way. Most religious people are weak in their faith.

Maybe I think you did not understand what what they're trying to expanciate with religion and and society because when you are asked to define what is religion and he also asked to define society. You will not see that society is fog different from religion but the boat work in accordance and would have a different meaning without religion society cannot function and with that society region cannot function so all this is totally the character of human behaviour as a woman adoption and the adaptation for one environment or one particularly ethnicity

Right and true religion is this >>> to help everybody who has a real need, usually the poor, children, the weak and the sick, etc. And to do it for little or no pay.

And then to come to faith in the fact that when you die, it's really that Jesus is taking you out of this life to a new life in a new universe that has no problems, to live in joy for ever and ever.

The religion you are emphasising is only meant for Christians and the ocean Muslims that is when you come into your religion not about culture. What from things that I notice even normal cultured environment do also love one another they give things two people without asking for return and I know that's such character is a character of a good religion but not everybody that follow such kind of behaviour. So I'm of this solution that stipulate that givers never lack and it's the religion i think your point deriving at

The Christian religion, the Bible religion, has 3 major points throughout:
1. The way to eternal life through Jesus (Messiah) salvation;
2. To love God above all things, and your neighbor as yourself;
3. Bible examples of the things that happen when love is or isn't followed.

This is for everybody, because:
1. All people want salvation even though many don't realize ti;
2. There is nothing more fundamental than love for God who made us and who maintains us, and love for our neighbor (all other people) so that we live in peace in this life.

The Bible examples express and show what happens when people don't follow this. Since people won't follow it completely, God has in mercy granted eternal life to people who try. But it is pretty easy. Salvation comes to those who simply believe in Jesus salvation. And we naturally know what we need in life, so we know what everybody else needs, and can live in peace and harmony because of our knowledge.

Simple as that, even if it is not so simple to put it into practice at times.

[yourthankyou]

Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

[BADecker]

Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

Some religions, yes... but others no.

When a person says he is a Christian and that is his religion, if he doesn't follow it, is it really his religion? Or is he a liar?

Check out the New Testament, the whole basis for Christianity. There is no call for violence other than self defense a little. Just the opposite. There are only calls for religious, Christian peace in the NT. The problem is people.

And if you want to say that Islam is the religion of peace, check all the places the Quran says to do violence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg10381547#msg10381547.

[Agbe]

why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

I believe you (the OP) is from a religion group. And if you are from a religion group how do you feel about this thread and your character toward other people in the society? Remember the theories of English philosophers of John Locke. Thomas Hobbes, and also French philosopher of Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

John Locke said, in the state of nature human beings need not to hurt another person but it is not possible in the society where different characters live together. https://edubirdie.com/examples/john-lockes-concept-of-human-nature/

Thomas Hobbes said, in the state of nature human beings were very wicked they are on war always. https://www.britannica.com/topic/state-of-nature-political-theory

Jean-Jacques Rousseau said, in the state of nature human beings were very good and and everybody was perfect but the society they found themselves corrupt them. https://1000wordphilosophy.com/2021/09/27/rousseau-on-human-nature/

From the above theorist you can discovered that human being character is not controlled by religion but by the society itself and religion is trying it best to refined the behaviour of the individual. Religion can only tell you what is good and bad and it is the individual to decide whether to choose the good or the bad.