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August 15, 2022, 01:04:21 PM
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Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately
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August 15, 2022, 02:03:40 PM
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Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

Some religions, yes... but others no.

When a person says he is a Christian and that is his religion, if he doesn't follow it, is it really his religion? Or is he a liar?

Check out the New Testament, the whole basis for Christianity. There is no call for violence other than self defense a little. Just the opposite. There are only calls for religious, Christian peace in the NT. The problem is people.

And if you want to say that Islam is the religion of peace, check all the places the Quran says to do violence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg10381547#msg10381547.

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August 15, 2022, 08:28:11 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind
I believe you (the OP) is from a religion group. And if you are from a religion group how do you feel about this thread and your character toward other people in the society? Remember the theories of English philosophers of John Locke. Thomas Hobbes, and also French philosopher of Jean-Jacques Rousseau.

John Locke said, in the state of nature human beings need not to hurt another person but it is not possible in the society where different characters live together. https://edubirdie.com/examples/john-lockes-concept-of-human-nature/

Thomas Hobbes said, in the state of nature human beings were very wicked they are on war always. https://www.britannica.com/topic/state-of-nature-political-theory

Jean-Jacques Rousseau said, in the state of nature human beings were very good and and everybody was perfect but the society they found themselves corrupt them. https://1000wordphilosophy.com/2021/09/27/rousseau-on-human-nature/

From the above theorist you can discovered that human being character is not controlled by religion but by the society itself and religion is trying it best to refined the behaviour of the individual. Religion can only tell you what is good and bad and it is the individual to decide whether to choose the good or the bad.













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August 15, 2022, 09:03:10 PM
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Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

Some religions, yes... but others no.

When a person says he is a Christian and that is his religion, if he doesn't follow it, is it really his religion? Or is he a liar?

Check out the New Testament, the whole basis for Christianity. There is no call for violence other than self defense a little. Just the opposite. There are only calls for religious, Christian peace in the NT. The problem is people.

And if you want to say that Islam is the religion of peace, check all the places the Quran says to do violence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg10381547#msg10381547.

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But what is the real chiristianity? It has been changing through years. Moreover, the Bible can be understood in many different ways
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August 15, 2022, 09:25:13 PM
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Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately

Some religions, yes... but others no.

When a person says he is a Christian and that is his religion, if he doesn't follow it, is it really his religion? Or is he a liar?

Check out the New Testament, the whole basis for Christianity. There is no call for violence other than self defense a little. Just the opposite. There are only calls for religious, Christian peace in the NT. The problem is people.

And if you want to say that Islam is the religion of peace, check all the places the Quran says to do violence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg10381547#msg10381547.

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But what is the real chiristianity? It has been changing through years. Moreover, the Bible can be understood in many different ways

Real Christianity is a combination of two things:
1. to be sorry for making mistakes, doing wrong... based on the Ten Commandments and the law of love for God and for other people;
2. Accepting the forgiveness that Jesus offers, that He gained for all people through His suffering and death on the cross.

As you said, the Bible can be understood in many different ways. But this doesn't have anything to do with what the Bible says. The Bible interprets itself. It's people who don't want to look at the whole thing, and understand it all, that come up with really wrong understandings of the Bible. People who study the Bible, and who listen to sound teachings from people who studied it more, are people who don't go off with crazy misunderstandings of it.

However, to be fair, the Revelation says in chapter 19 that nobody will understand the Bible completely. If you go and read chapter 19, you won't find anything that says it the way I just did. That's because people don't take the time to study the Bible to see how chapter 19 says what I said it says.

So, yes. People can and do many things that they shouldn't do, including placing wrong interpretations on the Bible.

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October 16, 2022, 03:40:06 AM
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Indeed, religion always teaches about goodness. But human nature is different. There are people who have good personalities, there are also people who have bad personalities.

In essence, in this world can not be separated from the name of the nature of envy, jealousy, as well as other bad traits. Therefore, religion teaches us to always obey in a good way, and not easily get carried away by emotions.

There are some people who are obedient to their religion, some are not.
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October 16, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
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Indeed, religion always teaches about goodness. But human nature is different. There are people who have good personalities, there are also people who have bad personalities.

In essence, in this world can not be separated from the name of the nature of envy, jealousy, as well as other bad traits. Therefore, religion teaches us to always obey in a good way, and not easily get carried away by emotions.

There are some people who are obedient to their religion, some are not.

Not all religions teach love and peace. Even those religions that in their inception called for peaceful coexistence between people, it turned out later that this was to win popular sympathy and to attract more followers. Then the laws of those religions are transformed into laws of life that impose the domination of one class or group of society over another.

Almost this happened with the most prevalent religions today on the surface of the earth, including Islam and Christianity, which was an element that helped to expand the empire in their time.

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October 16, 2022, 05:37:32 PM
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It's natural for humans to act differently from what is expected of people who are under the umbrella of Christianity. True religion as @BADecker observed is supposed to be practiced without eye service or salutation.
But what goes on these days is hypocrisy and lip service but crime rates is on the high.

 Where I come from, churches are scattered every where but yet still there's corruption, crime and chaos around. While there are the good ones, there's still the bad ones who spoil the reputation of the good.

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October 16, 2022, 05:41:21 PM
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Indeed, religion always teaches about goodness. But human nature is different. There are people who have good personalities, there are also people who have bad personalities.

In essence, in this world can not be separated from the name of the nature of envy, jealousy, as well as other bad traits. Therefore, religion teaches us to always obey in a good way, and not easily get carried away by emotions.

There are some people who are obedient to their religion, some are not.

Not all religions teach love and peace. Even those religions that in their inception called for peaceful coexistence between people, it turned out later that this was to win popular sympathy and to attract more followers. Then the laws of those religions are transformed into laws of life that impose the domination of one class or group of society over another.

Almost this happened with the most prevalent religions today on the surface of the earth, including Islam and Christianity, which was an element that helped to expand the empire in their time.

But what does the Christian religion really show... that most other religions don't. It shows the personal - between you and God - everlasting life Jesus offers... and why and how it works.

Of course, the whole Bible revolves around doing and being good and righteous. The examples in the Old Testament of the Bible show what happens to people who are not good and right as they live before God, and people who are.

One big focus sould be this. In Matthew in the New Testament, Jesus says, "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." When it doesn't work for people who ask, they say that it was simply not God's will. But if it wasn't God's will, then how could Jesus say it in the first place?

The focus is faith in God. Time to focus on what faith in God really is. In a different area of the NT, Jesus shows what faith can be, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

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January 09, 2023, 09:32:15 AM
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Religion teaches us about how to live a good life and end it with good deeds, but criminal activity didn't begin with us and it won't end with us because even God, who is our creature, knows that we humans will never be satisfied with what we have, which is why he created heaven and hell fire before our existence. If you look at the world today, it has completely changed because primarily those to whom God has given power, such as some imams and pastors are the ones that entice young people to engage in illegal activities, such as using yahoo and other scams, the most,due to lack of funds.

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January 09, 2023, 09:32:29 PM
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Crimes and violence are the part of the society as long as religion, unfortunately
I will accept your appoint that crime's and violence is what make environment to be together and without crime that will be a unity and the togetherness for a particular environment because all this thing's is what makes someone to know the particular person that even be it's relative

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January 11, 2023, 01:06:46 PM
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Many people live in this world, all of them belong to some tribe but they are human.  All people's hearts are not the same, some people's hearts are full of greed.  Those who have the wealth most need more, many beg but not enough.  People do not live forever in this world but people betray their own company.  But religion provides some security otherwise people would have indulged in more evil deeds.

Whatever religion you belong to, lies, greed for other people's wealth, and treachery can be avoided, peace will return to this society.  Our hearts are full of greed and lust because of which we betray our fellow man. Changing such habits will bring peace back to this world.

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January 11, 2023, 01:49:35 PM
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It's only because of this religion that the sense of humanity has survived in the society. Greed has brought people down so important that no bone cares about anyone they try to achieve their own interests. Agree that rapacity must be avoided in order to maintain peace and order in the true sense of the overall weal of humanity, we can make the society beautiful by being compassionate anyhow of estate, motivated by social weal and abstain from rapacity. At the morning of creation people didn't have different persuasions, all people had the same geste.

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January 11, 2023, 02:36:36 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

Even without religion, everyone of us knows the right that will aid in the development of our society, and once you deviate from it, your good conscience will remind you immediately, but the problem is the willingness to implement it.
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January 11, 2023, 05:54:49 PM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

There is a very straight forward answer to this question. Religion is the root cause for violence and crime. Take for instance what religion has raised throughout history. Moreover, the christian church is constantly accused of pedophily. Religion is something that is retarded and doesnt have any place in future. In order to evolve, humans need to separate themselves from old and unuseful thigs such as religion. Imo, the world would be far better if we did not had religion.
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January 14, 2023, 08:03:17 AM
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Religion teaches us to live morally upright lives that lead to happy deaths, but all these violent acts have nothing to do with religion because, as we all know, it does not condone the killing of its followers. This reminds me of the Christian girl who was murdered last year by hausa people in North Side in the name of religion. As a Muslim brother, I had never seen anything like that in my community since I was born, so that accident made me feel especially bad. However, I must admit that human beings tend to be very greedy, selfish, and unkind to one another, which has a negative impact on society.

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January 14, 2023, 02:40:20 PM
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A person's religion is what he lives. He might say he is part of a peaceful religion, but if he doesn't act peacefully, he is lying, and his religion is something else.

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January 18, 2023, 03:06:33 PM
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Religion is no one problem in Africa is doing more harm than good, imagine believing in God to give you a professional job when you are not competent for the jamb. Making people more lazy. Believing God will do every thing for us.
For my opinion religion is a major set back in african development
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January 18, 2023, 05:36:10 PM
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Religious in our society has brought a lot of change in our world today.
They society today has there own cause and life style of living ,this has brought alot of rich men to oppress those that don't have money to look has if there is no God but there is, you just need to have apply wisdom in what ever you are doing on earth.
Religion today has bring to our knows the bad from the good side of life, it has also make so many men powerful because the belief in there religion.
I guess religion in our society has done no harm to the society.

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January 18, 2023, 11:40:57 PM
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Religion is a personal thing. A bunch of people might attend the same church or religious meetings, but what they really believe in their hearts might be different for each of them. There are crooks who go to church just to get recognition in society. Their religion might be a lie, but that doesn't mean that the particular religion as a whole is bad.

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