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January 19, 2023, 03:15:27 AM
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One big focus sould be this. In Matthew in the New Testament, Jesus says,
I wonder, was Jesus around when Bible was written or not?

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January 19, 2023, 04:19:31 AM
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One big focus sould be this. In Matthew in the New Testament, Jesus says,
I wonder, was Jesus around when Bible was written or not?

If you mean Jesus in His earthly life about 2,000 years ago, and if you mean the actual, original writing of some part of it, probably not.

The Old Testament was completely written before Jesus was born. However, it was being copied continuously at the time of Jesus, and any time there was enough peace in Israel so that they could copy. They didn't have printing presses. So, scribes were at work, carefully making new copies all the time.

Other than some notes that somebody might have been making, Jesus ascended to Heaven before any of the New Testament was written. We rely on the Holy spirit accurately reminding the Gospel writers of what to write.

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January 20, 2023, 07:32:36 AM
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all religions always teach good things, especially manners. but there are people who really understand religion and practice it, there are also people who understand but don't practice it, in other words he knows he made a mistake but he still does it.

and it is lust that drives all these bad deeds. all religions must teach us not to submit to our passions.

for passion can make a king a slave, while patience can make a slave a king.

so human passions are the first to be fought. if we continue to fulfill our desires then, all of that will not have an end, instead it will become greed that controls ourselves.
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January 20, 2023, 04:48:52 PM
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The role of religion for some people on this earth is very important, considering that religion is a place to fulfill human needs spiritually. Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world according to experts. however, long before that, the ancients had embraced the belief system of animism and dynamism, and even today many still adhere to this belief system.
Religion plays an important role in the history of human development. to the extent that the development of religion is able to form a social identity with a religious label, then that label creates the distinction between humans and other humans.

On the other hand, crime is not something that is foreign to human life because crime is truly experienced by humans on this earth. within every human being has an immoral dimension that raises the potential to act evil. various kinds of criminal acts that occur on earth confirms that criminal acts already exist in the structure of the human mind itself. religious or not, evil will always exist as long as humans still rule this earth.

note: I used to love to read, and I remember one of the philosophers, Gottfried Leibniz. Leibniz said of all that is possible, God has created the best. in this world there must be evil. man is created imperfect, and in this imperfection, he can have moral vices. because the world is imperfect, humans are victims of physical crime.

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January 20, 2023, 05:17:29 PM
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^^^ Like some India religions, creation of the earth is mentioned in the Bible. There is a timeline there that shows that this earth is about 7,500 years old. It is not an easy timeline to follow, and it needs backup from other versions of the Bible than what is generally found in English today.

The point is that the Christian religion goes back to the Beginning, even before the creation of Adam and Eve.

For those of you who listen to the scientists who talk like they know when and how the universe started, consider that there are many unknown things that could easily show that their calculations are probably very wrong. And, because of the way the Bible is written, it also doesn't show the length of time back to the actual beginning of the Universe. The Bible only shows the amount of time back to the making of Adam and Eve on the sixth day, and the five days before.

All time listed before the making of Earth in the Bible - about 7,500 years - is unknown.

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January 23, 2023, 09:40:33 PM
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all religions always teach good things, especially manners. but there are people who really understand religion and practice it, there are also people who understand but don't practice it, in other words he knows he made a mistake but he still does it.

and it is lust that drives all these bad deeds. all religions must teach us not to submit to our passions.

for passion can make a king a slave, while patience can make a slave a king.

so human passions are the first to be fought. if we continue to fulfill our desires then, all of that will not have an end, instead it will become greed that controls ourselves.
I think I disagree with that one that want is a fallacy not all religious or all religion teach a good thing song lay religion teach about things but people don't understand until another people or another person from another ethnic group that perform different religion visit their environment so not all religion that teach a good thing in society there is a religion that sacrifices human be and doors religion who sacrifices human be will they call a good religion or a bad religion

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January 23, 2023, 10:41:29 PM
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all religions always teach good things, especially manners. but there are people who really understand religion and practice it, there are also people who understand but don't practice it, in other words he knows he made a mistake but he still does it.

and it is lust that drives all these bad deeds. all religions must teach us not to submit to our passions.

for passion can make a king a slave, while patience can make a slave a king.

so human passions are the first to be fought. if we continue to fulfill our desires then, all of that will not have an end, instead it will become greed that controls ourselves.
I think I disagree with that one that want is a fallacy not all religious or all religion teach a good thing song lay religion teach about things but people don't understand until another people or another person from another ethnic group that perform different religion visit their environment so not all religion that teach a good thing in society there is a religion that sacrifices human be and doors religion who sacrifices human be will they call a good religion or a bad religion
I am in support of your sentence because not all religion are right because many of the religion practice abnormal things for their society which even their environment many people who know that their tradition is not well defined will a also inform you if you have go into a deep environment that I have an ancient kind of culture

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January 23, 2023, 11:03:38 PM
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So people had taken religion to be very important that there neighborhood. Religion is something we must treat with respect and at the same time we need to respect people around us so that we would not go too extreme in religion and do the things that would make people to ask questions whether we are metally okay or not.

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January 25, 2023, 08:15:05 AM
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Religion has help in civilization and taming of humans who are wild in nature,
But those who have misinterpreted religion are the cause of the ugly face of religion  ,

Religion like every other thing in this world has its good sides and it's bad sides depending on which side you stand in viewing it

It is said that the more the religious centers in a place or dwelling ,the more the sin committed in that area , and that's because evil forces are always around to challenge good will,

There is a saying that states that,  wherever God build His church , the devil also build his shrine nearby.
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February 02, 2023, 06:41:44 AM
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I think religion is a practice that directs it followers on a good path, but believe me humans will always remain humans,

Sincerely I don't really think a religion can change a person, except he/she is willing to change.
I believe every religion have it rules and regulations (commandments) but yet people go against it, because there's a belief that there's is forgiveness,

To me, I think religion is a personal thing, it's a matter of the heart, because a group of persons might be same religion practice but just few are doing the right thing, others are just there for eye service,
Example the church(Christians)

Religion I think it's playing a better role though, but the followers are the problem because they would always go contrary to their religion practices.

The persons that are involved in crimes in the society today are of many religion, and I don't think there's is any religion that supports crimes, eg
Killing,
Stealing,
Murder,
Rape, etc
But you will find out that those persons carrying out this crimes are of religion groups that are so much against crimes....

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February 02, 2023, 09:28:43 AM
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^^^ The Taliban isn't Christian, is it?     Cool

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February 03, 2023, 01:43:09 AM
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^^^ The Taliban isn't Christian, is it?     Cool

A paranoid schizophrenic is not a catatonic schizophrenic, isn't it?

As for Taliban and Christian cults, well, the adherents are just mentally ill, so I am not sure there is much difference
between them.

They all share the same psychopathic manuals, a.k.a. scriptures.

Torah->Talmud->Bible->Quran->Book of Mormon-> ...

All the same BS.

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February 03, 2023, 12:17:59 PM
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^^^ The Taliban isn't Christian, is it?     Cool

A paranoid schizophrenic is not a catatonic schizophrenic, isn't it?

As for Taliban and Christian cults, well, the adherents are just mentally ill, so I am not sure there is much difference
between them.

They all share the same psychopathic manuals, a.k.a. scriptures.

Torah->Talmud->Bible->Quran->Book of Mormon-> ...

All the same BS.

Satan doesn't care which religion. As long as he can get people to deny God, and especially Jesus, their Savior.

Among the best Satan religions are atheism and agnosticism. Islam has a better chance at saving someone, because the Koran mentions Jesus.

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February 03, 2023, 04:23:54 PM
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A religious man is not a righteous man.
Religion is believed to have the ability to influence the way people behave, but it seems that Religion has failed by not leaving upto expectations. Instead religious people has left the purpose of Religion. They are now in a serious war with one another, fighting on which religion will dominate the earth.
I don't want religion but I want morality and Co existence of humans among other creatures.

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February 03, 2023, 05:27:29 PM
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A religious man is not a righteous man.
Religion is believed to have the ability to influence the way people behave, but it seems that Religion has failed by not leaving upto expectations. Instead religious people has left the purpose of Religion. They are now in a serious war with one another, fighting on which religion will dominate the earth.
I don't want religion but I want morality and Co existence of humans among other creatures.

People understand how to act towards other people. It's natural. It goes something like Do unto others what you would have them do unto you. What formal religion is for is to show people what they would like others to do to them, so that they can do these things to other people.

But the main thing of the Christian formal religion is to remind people about God, and to show them Jesus, Who will raise them from the dead on the last day.

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April 07, 2024, 07:00:23 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion: I believe religion is a practice that teaches ways of good conducts and we all tend to found ourselves in a religion. I'm so sure all religion talks about good that leads man to the right track, correction from evil, love for one another, peace. But we still come across killings and all sort of different crimes in our society. If the society should practice our individual religion which they tend to belong, i feel the world would be a better place for mankind

Another thing that must be taken into account is that not everyone practices religion. Even if religion has a good impact on some people, it may not influence others. So, while religion may have a good influence on certain people, it is unlikely to lead to a decrease in crime overall. It's also important to note that religion isn't the sole element influencing people's behaviour. Other factors, such as financial status, education, and upbringing, can also influence outcomes. So it is not as simple as claiming that religion would lower crime. In contrast, if we are raised in a way that encourages selfishness and aggression, we are more likely to participate in illegal activity.
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April 07, 2024, 04:19:18 PM
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Every religion teaches us morality.  Every religion has a message of peace and reconciliation.  If one follows his own religion perfectly I think he cannot indulge in any crime.  Because no religion supports crime.  Religion always shows people the way to peace.  But as the days go by, people's faith in religion is rising.  For which people are going astray and engaging themselves in various crimes.  Crime and corruption trends are increasing day by day in almost every country.  Nothing seems to be able to eliminate them.

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April 12, 2024, 09:49:05 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion as a practice just as you have said does not completely eradicate self and one's nature/attributes. The practice of true religion, just helps to put these attributes under a check. Unfortunately, many do not practice true religion and their true nature that has been set either genetically or environmentally induced, has not been put under check and they only just hide under the the cover of being religious.

This is very clear as the answer speak volume most they way I perceive the question, as long as human being is concerned where what is inside the heart is hidden it's very deficult for any religion to completely cut off crime but can only minimize the rate at which they would have occur through sound teaching and this could only be possible to those who 65% is to practice the true relijion.

Secondly religion don't have any parameters set to measure in how they can cut off crime because it's when you have such parameters that you will check and balance to know if your able to do or not, though people may say that sound religion has the power to cut down crime I don't disagree but can't eliminate it completely based on the human heart difference and the mind construction can't be read by the face many wear religion as cloth and are ready to dropped it at any given time to perpetrate crime.

Just as have said earlier if religion has parameters it's this that will make them know that from so number to next number is crime free and from there they will know what is left to tackle there by achieve it but since no parameters is not possible.

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April 12, 2024, 11:03:59 AM
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why can't religion reduce the rate of crimes in our society?
Religion as a practice just as you have said does not completely eradicate self and one's nature/attributes. The practice of true religion, just helps to put these attributes under a check. Unfortunately, many do not practice true religion and their true nature that has been set either genetically or environmentally induced, has not been put under check and they only just hide under the the cover of being religious.

This is very clear as the answer speak volume most they way I perceive the question, as long as human being is concerned where what is inside the heart is hidden it's very deficult for any religion to completely cut off crime but can only minimize the rate at which they would have occur through sound teaching and this could only be possible to those who 65% is to practice the true relijion.

Secondly religion don't have any parameters set to measure in how they can cut off crime because it's when you have such parameters that you will check and balance to know if your able to do or not, though people may say that sound religion has the power to cut down crime I don't disagree but can't eliminate it completely based on the human heart difference and the mind construction can't be read by the face many wear religion as cloth and are ready to dropped it at any given time to perpetrate crime.

Just as have said earlier if religion has parameters it's this that will make them know that from so number to next number is crime free and from there they will know what is left to tackle there by achieve it but since no parameters is not possible.
People who are able to manipulate the minds of others, who in turn are prone to manipulation, can use religion as leverage and drive even those who practice the true religion to commit a crime under the pretext of "correctness"
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April 12, 2024, 08:12:04 PM
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The mean reason for religion being introduced into society was for the regulation of the activities of Man to see how human activities and their excess can be contained and now human society has evolved and because of the economic hardship all over the world religion has little or no effect on man now because with what I see is man is now back to that hobbisians state where life is brutish nasty and shot because men will do anything just to survive now
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