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April 15, 2021, 10:21:26 PM
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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

Hehe, that's pretty normal for kids nowadays. Yup, i agree with you that Ryan Garcia has cockiness in him but the good thing about that is he can back it up inside the ring whenever he goes up for a fight.

Might work for his advantage as it's also additional marketing for himself just like the style of Floyd Mayweather. The more haters, the more people watching not because they are a fan but they are watching because they want to see him lose.

Garcia seem to be good in selling himself, @ReiMomo, you didn't notice that he already attract your attention and you would want to watch his fight hoping he will loss. lol.. Garcia minus his cockiness, he is still a great fighter, he is a reason to boost because he has that "0",,, and what I like about him is he want to big fight which other fighters are afraid to maintain their undefeated record.

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April 15, 2021, 10:33:40 PM
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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

Hehe, that's pretty normal for kids nowadays. Yup, i agree with you that Ryan Garcia has cockiness in him but the good thing about that is he can back it up inside the ring whenever he goes up for a fight.

Might work for his advantage as it's also additional marketing for himself just like the style of Floyd Mayweather. The more haters, the more people watching not because they are a fan but they are watching because they want to see him lose.

Garcia seem to be good in selling himself, @ReiMomo, you didn't notice that he already attract your attention and you would want to watch his fight hoping he will loss. lol.. Garcia minus his cockiness, he is still a great fighter, he is a reason to boost because he has that "0",,, and what I like about him is he want to big fight which other fighters are afraid to maintain their undefeated record.

That's the strength of this kid, he really knows now to sell himself, his twitter + instagram account alone bolstered of more than 1 millions subscribers fans already. The kid has talent and for now he can talk like that to any the fighters he face because he can proved it. His is making his statement win, Duno fall, Luke Campbell although he was knock down, was able to get from the canvass and then finished Luke. So yeah similar to Floyd's cockiness and brandish boxing. And then if he knock out Fortuna his stock will soar again.

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April 15, 2021, 10:39:28 PM
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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

Hehe, that's pretty normal for kids nowadays. Yup, i agree with you that Ryan Garcia has cockiness in him but the good thing about that is he can back it up inside the ring whenever he goes up for a fight.

Might work for his advantage as it's also additional marketing for himself just like the style of Floyd Mayweather. The more haters, the more people watching not because they are a fan but they are watching because they want to see him lose.

Garcia seem to be good in selling himself, @ReiMomo, you didn't notice that he already attract your attention and you would want to watch his fight hoping he will loss. lol.. Garcia minus his cockiness, he is still a great fighter, he is a reason to boost because he has that "0",,, and what I like about him is he want to big fight which other fighters are afraid to maintain their undefeated record.

That's the strength of this kid, he really knows now to sell himself, his twitter + instagram account alone bolstered of more than 1 millions subscribers fans already. The kid has talent and for now he can talk like that to any the fighters he face because he can proved it. His is making his statement win, Duno fall, Luke Campbell although he was knock down, was able to get from the canvass and then finished Luke. So yeah similar to Floyd's cockiness and brandish boxing. And then if he knock out Fortuna his stock will soar again.

What only made him different from Floyd is that he is not dodging a fighter, he even challenges champions to fight him, even with higher ranking or standing that him, so that's one of the reason why despite of his cockiness, I still like Ryan Garcia.

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April 15, 2021, 10:46:25 PM
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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

Hehe, that's pretty normal for kids nowadays. Yup, i agree with you that Ryan Garcia has cockiness in him but the good thing about that is he can back it up inside the ring whenever he goes up for a fight.

Might work for his advantage as it's also additional marketing for himself just like the style of Floyd Mayweather. The more haters, the more people watching not because they are a fan but they are watching because they want to see him lose.

Garcia seem to be good in selling himself, @ReiMomo, you didn't notice that he already attract your attention and you would want to watch his fight hoping he will loss. lol.. Garcia minus his cockiness, he is still a great fighter, he is a reason to boost because he has that "0",,, and what I like about him is he want to big fight which other fighters are afraid to maintain their undefeated record.

That's the strength of this kid, he really knows now to sell himself, his twitter + instagram account alone bolstered of more than 1 millions subscribers fans already. The kid has talent and for now he can talk like that to any the fighters he face because he can proved it. His is making his statement win, Duno fall, Luke Campbell although he was knock down, was able to get from the canvass and then finished Luke. So yeah similar to Floyd's cockiness and brandish boxing. And then if he knock out Fortuna his stock will soar again.

What only made him different from Floyd is that he is not dodging a fighter, he even challenges champions to fight him, even with higher ranking or standing that him, so that's one of the reason why despite of his cockiness, I still like Ryan Garcia.

as long as he is not trash talking, thats fine with me. he has the guts to challenge big names because he feel he has the power to fight them. and i guess, he really has it. selling himself without ruining others' reputation is fine.
interesting what odds will the bookies give to this match???

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April 15, 2021, 10:58:52 PM
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This is good for him instead of fighting an opponent that is not in his era. The fight will be a few months after today but this will not change the fact that Ryan Garcia will be the one who is popular here. Lightweight is something you cannot blink your eyes when you watch their fight because this is usually where those fighters in the Welterweight have shown how good they've been. Just like the Fight of Manny Pacquiao and Diaz
Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.
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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.

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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.

I like that. An over-hype internet sensation.  Grin But let us see, he is still young, he has a lot of things that he can prove in the coming years. If he will keep up his winning streak, then, maybe he has the guts to challenge big names. At least, he is giving interest in the boxing community.
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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.

LOL, he has been calling a fight with a legendary and yet he hasn't anything in his resume to even deserves a mention. But yeah, this kid is ambitious, he really believes so much in his talent that he has been calling a lot of names to get a fight. And yet he landed Javier Fortuna, which means he has to go the process like the usual fighters. Fight durable and stable boxers and see if your skills and chin are going to hold before calling any in your division.

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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.
He will be protected by Oscar because he is the only cash cow he got, Canelo already left him. And previously, Garcia's to the public and says that he is not satisfied on how Oscar is managing his career. They thought that they are throwing him against a tough Duno, but he knock him down so the dispute has settled down. But since Canelo left, I don't know I have the feeling that he will also left Oscar because Canelo and Ryan are so tight.

But in any case, it will be Haney first, at least Haney doesn't have the power, pillow fisted so it will be easy for Ryan to win. And forgot about Manny, Pacquiao has other biggest fish in the welterweight division to chase.

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But in any case, it will be Haney first, at least Haney doesn't have the power, pillow fisted so it will be easy for Ryan to win. And forgot about Manny, Pacquiao has other biggest fish in the welterweight division to chase.
He is and if time tells I think the chance he'll make it to fight with Pacquiao will be doubtful since the pound-for-pound king might be on his way to retirement. I guess it will be good if he pass the baton first kind of fight before he retires in the boxing world, Garcia has the capability to exceed him or at the level when he goes onto his prime years.
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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.
He will be protected by Oscar because he is the only cash cow he got, Canelo already left him. And previously, Garcia's to the public and says that he is not satisfied on how Oscar is managing his career. They thought that they are throwing him against a tough Duno, but he knock him down so the dispute has settled down. But since Canelo left, I don't know I have the feeling that he will also left Oscar because Canelo and Ryan are so tight.

But in any case, it will be Haney first, at least Haney doesn't have the power, pillow fisted so it will be easy for Ryan to win. And forgot about Manny, Pacquiao has other biggest fish in the welterweight division to chase.

everyone wants MONEY not really Manny. of course if they are matched with Pacquiao they could get tons of money.

if Garcia could win against Haney i bet he will also be matched to Davis. this however is a more aggressive and stronger fighter, by the looks of it, its not good already for Garcia. he isn't yet as big as Canelo so it's best to develop his career without loss otherwise. he'll break and lose confidence.











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Ryan is so confident.



Most likely we are gonna see something that happened in the fight against Francisco Fonseca last year.

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Well he was way too ambitious I suppose but I think he has the power and the guts to challenge Pacquiao and I think that's a good thing to fight your idol. I wouldn't be that surprised if ever Garcia will won different divisions too. I think those division Welterweight and Lightweight where Garcia would dominate.

He is too ambitious to fight Pacquiao when his promoters keep protecting him against Gervonta Davis and Haney, he should be fighting Davis or Haney first before thinking of a mega-fight with Manny Pacquiao, there's really nothing in Garcia's resume that will match Pacquiao resume, the questions is whom he beat, there's no decent name in Garcia's resume that will pop up, his just an over hype internet sensation.
He will be protected by Oscar because he is the only cash cow he got, Canelo already left him. And previously, Garcia's to the public and says that he is not satisfied on how Oscar is managing his career. They thought that they are throwing him against a tough Duno, but he knock him down so the dispute has settled down. But since Canelo left, I don't know I have the feeling that he will also left Oscar because Canelo and Ryan are so tight.

But in any case, it will be Haney first, at least Haney doesn't have the power, pillow fisted so it will be easy for Ryan to win. And forgot about Manny, Pacquiao has other biggest fish in the welterweight division to chase.

everyone wants MONEY not really Manny. of course if they are matched with Pacquiao they could get tons of money.

if Garcia could win against Haney i bet he will also be matched to Davis. this however is a more aggressive and stronger fighter, by the looks of it, its not good already for Garcia. he isn't yet as big as Canelo so it's best to develop his career without loss otherwise. he'll break and lose confidence.

Yes, so Ryan needs to be careful on choosing his opponents, he is still a kid and has a bright future. We don't want to see his career derail if he faces Manny. There are a lot of good boxers in his division, clean up them before calling Pacquiao. Of course he is after the money, but then again, you need to establish himself first. him vs Haney, vs Davis vs Lopez, that's a lot of money to be made fighting those young champions as well.
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We don't want to see his career derail if he faces Manny. There are a lot of good boxers in his division, clean up them before calling Pacquiao. Of course he is after the money, but then again, you need to establish himself first. him vs Haney, vs Davis vs Lopez, that's a lot of money to be made fighting those young champions as well.

I guess anyone who fought Manny always still has a chance to come back again, Thurman fought Manny and he thought it's alright to loss against Manny because Manny is a legend, and it's a privilege to fight with him in the right.

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if Garcia could win against Haney i bet he will also be matched to Davis. this however is a more aggressive and stronger fighter, by the looks of it, its not good already for Garcia. he isn't yet as big as Canelo so it's best to develop his career without loss otherwise. he'll break and lose confidence.


The only fights that will define Garcia is a win against Haney and Davis, honestly I don't like his chances against these two fighters he was beaten several times by Haney back in their amateur days, and Gervonta is to strong for him, Gervonta only needs to connect and it's game over as Garcia has a weak chin, remember he was knock down by a fighter who cannot even hit hard.

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if Garcia could win against Haney i bet he will also be matched to Davis. this however is a more aggressive and stronger fighter, by the looks of it, its not good already for Garcia. he isn't yet as big as Canelo so it's best to develop his career without loss otherwise. he'll break and lose confidence.


The only fights that will define Garcia is a win against Haney and Davis, honestly I don't like his chances against these two fighters he was beaten several times by Haney back in their amateur days, and Gervonta is to strong for him, Gervonta only needs to connect and it's game over as Garcia has a weak chin, remember he was knock down by a fighter who cannot even hit hard.

Really? you talking about Luke Campbell?

I think his man as a power, he has 20 fiights and 16 wins by KO with only 1 loss coming from Garcia only.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/651514

If you have seen some of his highlights, then maybe you might be convince that he is also a heavy hitter.
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April 16, 2021, 08:45:00 PM
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We don't want to see his career derail if he faces Manny. There are a lot of good boxers in his division, clean up them before calling Pacquiao. Of course he is after the money, but then again, you need to establish himself first. him vs Haney, vs Davis vs Lopez, that's a lot of money to be made fighting those young champions as well.

I guess anyone who fought Manny always still has a chance to come back again, Thurman fought Manny and he thought it's alright to loss against Manny because Manny is a legend, and it's a privilege to fight with him in the right.

He's popularity increase after fighting Manny and yes, Pacquiao being a legend take as a previledge fighting him especially now
that the numbers of fight that he can take is limited,.

He's on his way to retirement, might be this year or the following. His family's calling him to stop now he already achieved everything he needs.

Might not possible to bring Manny as he have lots of young talents to fight, he can collect more money than risking his
health and career fighting Pacquiao.

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To honest and dont offend those Garcia supporters but I don’t really like Ryan Garcia, he’s too young but his ego is too much for his age. He’s been spending his time training and making vlogs but every time I watch, I cringe. You can always feel how arrogant this guy is.

On the other hand, I’m not that familiar with Javier Fortuna. Never watched even a single of his match. But he looks capable of winning.

But technically, Ryan Garcia’s fighting style is actually good. So I would place my side with him for now. It’s just that, him showing off is attracting bad luck to his career. But we will see.

Hehe, that's pretty normal for kids nowadays. Yup, i agree with you that Ryan Garcia has cockiness in him but the good thing about that is he can back it up inside the ring whenever he goes up for a fight.

Might work for his advantage as it's also additional marketing for himself just like the style of Floyd Mayweather. The more haters, the more people watching not because they are a fan but they are watching because they want to see him lose.

Garcia seem to be good in selling himself, @ReiMomo, you didn't notice that he already attract your attention and you would want to watch his fight hoping he will loss. lol.. Garcia minus his cockiness, he is still a great fighter, he is a reason to boost because he has that "0",,, and what I like about him is he want to big fight which other fighters are afraid to maintain their undefeated record.

That's the strength of this kid, he really knows now to sell himself, his twitter + instagram account alone bolstered of more than 1 millions subscribers fans already. The kid has talent and for now he can talk like that to any the fighters he face because he can proved it. His is making his statement win, Duno fall, Luke Campbell although he was knock down, was able to get from the canvass and then finished Luke. So yeah similar to Floyd's cockiness and brandish boxing. And then if he knock out Fortuna his stock will soar again.

What only made him different from Floyd is that he is not dodging a fighter, he even challenges champions to fight him, even with higher ranking or standing that him, so that's one of the reason why despite of his cockiness, I still like Ryan Garcia.

as long as he is not trash talking, thats fine with me. he has the guts to challenge big names because he feel he has the power to fight them. and i guess, he really has it. selling himself without ruining others' reputation is fine.
interesting what odds will the bookies give to this match???

I'm sorry to tell you but the kid is trash talking,

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Garcia then dipped into history to pull one of the all-time classic quotes in boxing history, telling Davis, "You too ugly to be champ. And that's from Muhammad Ali. Boy, I'm pretty. You ain't never seen nothing like me. I promise you, you gonna go down."

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-heat-up-rivalry-as-tank-says-we-fighting-next-during-interview-with-mike-tyson/

I think that's how to sell a fights, trash talk your opponents, attack him with your mouth, and ruining him before the fight. But we all know that is is more of a mind games, it's what the others fighters are going to do with it once they hear those smack talks coming from him.

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I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.



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April 17, 2021, 01:24:28 AM
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I am waiting on this fight to release in the betting site so that I will be able to bet on Ryan Garcia or what they called King Ryan of the ring. King Ryan will be the crowd choice for sure in which he is really so popular although Javier Fortuna is also popular but if it will be based on the record then the vote of the people will be to King Ryan and for me also I think he will be the one to win in this fight. Still waiting for this fight to be release in the betting sites.

Are you going to bet on ML for King Ryan? because for sure it won't be that attractive once sports betting sites release the initial odds. So I would advise you to wait for more betting odds instead of rushing on your bet, just saying.

Other betting odds such as per round would be good for Ryan, I'm expecting Ryan to be 1.1x-1.3x favourite early when the lines open.

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