Two unconfirmed transactions and not being able to use my wallet balance

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

Hello I have a strange problem with my wallet on blockchain.info. I know the problem is me lowering the miner fees on these transactions, I've been going low on many of my recent ones without a problem. Obv I went to low on these.

I sent these transactions to another wallet as I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet. The BTC arrived there but was removed after two days. After that they show unconfirmed on the blockchain. Its been 4 days now and nothing come back and my remaining balance on wallet cannot be moved as I get a "transaction failed to send" message.

Is the "transaction failed to send" message from having two stuck transactions? I did many google searches and cant find anyone else with this problem.

Is there anything I can do to get this BTC back sooner or just wait a long period of time?

My transactons:


ca60990ced1a0082874bcc3e3b58ca5450941bcd58b49fded2b3fc6075ce65eb


c5064540bdb9a4a87a9465de3063a0b937f5143440f140413476f3e3e9f9453a

The second transaction is really weird because it was o;y for 768usd but it shows it was 3108usd on there.

Thanks for the help.

[bitmover]

My transactons:


ca60990ced1a0082874bcc3e3b58ca5450941bcd58b49fded2b3fc6075ce65eb


c5064540bdb9a4a87a9465de3063a0b937f5143440f140413476f3e3e9f9453a

The second transaction is really weird because it was o;y for 768usd but it shows it was 3108usd on there.

Thanks for the help.

They are both unconfirmed.

There is nothing wrong with those transactions. The second one has two outputs:
bc1qlpn92jjkmfpyjfr34qu8t7zdxn2xwym8qw6f8m $767.48, which is the wallet you are transferring to (i can see it is another wallet as it is a bech32 segwit address)
and 1BHb1UvMKcr85n3mRYHBNnuoZtxbgryF7K $2,508.16, which is your change address. This is going back to your wallet.

I sent these transactions to another wallet as I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet.

You cannot split an input in the blockchain. As you want to send small amounts, you will be sending some coins to your new wallet and some back to your old wallet. Why don't you transfer it all at the same time? You are paying a lot of fees sending coins back and forth to your new and old wallet.

For example, if you received 0.05 BTC (3000 USD) once, you cannot split this value and send only 700 to a new wallet.
To do so you need to create a new address in your old account, and send 700 to your new wallet and 2300 back to your old wallet. THis is what that second transaction is about.

I see you are using 2 sat/byte fee. It will take some days, maybe even some weeks to get confirmed.

It would be much cheaper just to make one transaction with all your inputs to your new wallet. You could even use a 10 sat/byte fee, which would get a confirmatin in a few hours or a few days.

[ranochigo]

I sent these transactions to another wallet as I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet. The BTC arrived there but was removed after two days. After that they show unconfirmed on the blockchain. Its been 4 days now and nothing come back and my remaining balance on wallet cannot be moved as I get a "transaction failed to send" message.

Is the "transaction failed to send" message from having two stuck transactions? I did many google searches and cant find anyone else with this problem.

In the recent days, the minmempoolfee has increased to above 2sat/vbyte and in the process, purging anything with a fee rate below that. Blockchain.info seems to have a different policy with that and you won't be able to send any transactions without them first purging it on their blockexplorer. Either export your keys and import it into another wallet or just wait for it to be purged or confirmed.

Is there anything I can do to get this BTC back sooner or just wait a long period of time?

Export your keys and use another wallet.

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

My transactons:



I sent these transactions to another wallet as I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet.

You cannot split an input in the blockchain. As you want to send small amounts, you will be sending some coins to your new wallet and some back to your old wallet. Why don't you transfer it all at the same time? You are paying a lot of fees sending coins back and forth to your new and old wallet.

For example, if you received 0.05 BTC (3000 USD) once, you cannot split this value and send only 700 to a new wallet.
To do so you need to create a new address in your old account, and send 700 to your new wallet and 2300 back to your old wallet. THis is what that second transaction is about.

I see you are using 2 sat/byte fee. It will take some days, maybe even some weeks to get confirmed.

It would be much cheaper just to make one transaction with all your inputs to your new wallet. You could even use a 10 sat/byte fee, which would get a confirmatin in a few hours or a few days.

Thanks for the reply much appreciated.

Yeah I thought it would be better to move it in smassler amounts in case something happened with a transaction dont ask me why. I never even realized it cost more in smaller shots thought it went by amount sent. Funny enough the smaller transactions likely got me stuck not being able to make any moves for some time now.

I can deal with weeks. I read some places it could take a year for some of these that really scared me.

[HCP]

It shouldn't take a year... but one problem you might run into is that I suspect that the blockchain.com wallet system automatically rebroadcasts transactions and/or their system holds the transactions for a much longer period that other nodes do.

This could potentially mean your transactions end up in "limbo" for an extended period of time, if they keep being rebroadcast

As ranochigo says, mempoolminfee has increased lately... currently on https://mempool.space/ it is showing as 3.7 sats/byte... so theoretically most nodes with a "default" config should have purged your transactions... but these 2 transactions are still showing up on a number of blockexplorers (blockcypher, blockchain, btc.com, blockchair etc)

[LoyceV]

I can deal with weeks. I read some places it could take a year for some of these that really scared me.

The last time transactions with 2 sat/byte got confirmed, was January 28, 2.5 months ago. I've kept track of low fees for years, and don't expect 2 sat/byte to be confirmed any time soon. You could indeed be looking at many months.

I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet.

You should probably read up on consolidating your small inputs, you're doing the exact opposite, which is expensive.

My advice: export the private key to 1PvKs6nDSsd844WsjnZKEZFF8hb3SyLUQ4 from Blockchain.info. Import it into a new Electrum wallet, and send the entire balance at once to your new wallet. Make sure there is no change left, just empty the address. I've tested importing your address (watch-only), and as expected Electrum doesn't even know about your 2 sat/byte transaction, so you can just create a new one.
Since you're not in a rush, I'd recommend to manually set a 12 sat/byte fee. That's enough to (almost) guarantee it'll confirm in the weekend. Once this is confirmed, all other unconfirmed transactions should disappear from your Blockchain.info(.com?) wallet, and you can send the remaining balance.

Assuming you've had your Blockchain.info wallet for years, you may want to read up on Forkcoins you may own.

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

I can deal with weeks. I read some places it could take a year for some of these that really scared me.

The last time transactions with 2 sat/byte got confirmed, was January 28, 2.5 months ago. I've kept track of low fees for years, and don't expect 2 sat/byte to be confirmed any time soon. You could indeed be looking at many months.

I'm in the process of moving in small amounts to a better wallet.

You should probably read up on consolidating your small inputs, you're doing the exact opposite, which is expensive.

My advice: export the private key to 1PvKs6nDSsd844WsjnZKEZFF8hb3SyLUQ4 from Blockchain.info. Import it into a new Electrum wallet, and send the entire balance at once to your new wallet. Make sure there is no change left, just empty the address. I've tested importing your address (watch-only), and as expected Electrum doesn't even know about your 2 sat/byte transaction, so you can just create a new one.
Since you're not in a rush, I'd recommend to manually set a 12 sat/byte fee. That's enough to (almost) guarantee it'll confirm in the weekend. Once this is confirmed, all other unconfirmed transactions should disappear from your Blockchain.info(.com?) wallet, and you can send the remaining balance.

Assuming you've had your Blockchain.info wallet for years, you may want to read up on Forkcoins you may own.

Ok I'll try this later on. Really appreciate your's and everyone else advice on the topic. Really awesome community you have here. Thanks!

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

My advice: export the private key to 1PvKs6nDSsd844WsjnZKEZFF8hb3SyLUQ4 from Blockchain.info. Import it into a new Electrum wallet, and send the entire balance at once to your new wallet. Make sure there is no change left, just empty the address. I've tested importing your address (watch-only), and as expected Electrum doesn't even know about your 2 sat/byte transaction, so you can just create a new one.
Since you're not in a rush, I'd recommend to manually set a 12 sat/byte fee. That's enough to (almost) guarantee it'll confirm in the weekend. Once this is confirmed, all other unconfirmed transactions should disappear from your Blockchain.info(.com?) wallet, and you can send the remaining balance.

Assuming you've had your Blockchain.info wallet for years, you may want to read up on Forkcoins you may own.

 I can't find a private key for the address you said to export in my wallet. It doesnt show up in my used address folder.

I tried to use my seed to export my wallet into electrum. I followed directions for setting up an export from blockchain.info to a electrum wallet perfectly. I did that and my Electrum wallet came out with 20 rec addresses that have no relation to my blockchain wallet and then some change addresses. I then went to my blockchain account after doing that and tried to send the whole amount over but just got the "transaction failed to send" message again.

Am I doing something wrong with this? I've been all over google, youtube, and websites searching "export blockchain.info wallet to electrum" and seems the steps I took were right.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I can't find a private key for the address you said to export in my wallet. It doesnt show up in my used address folder.

You will only be able to export the individual private key for that address is the address was imported from somewhere else in to your blockchain.com wallet. Blockchain.com does not allow you to export private keys for addresses generated by them - in this case, you will need to use your seed phrase.

I tried to use my seed to export my wallet into electrum. I followed directions for setting up an export from blockchain.info to a electrum wallet perfectly. I did that and my Electrum wallet came out with 20 rec addresses that have no relation to my blockchain wallet and then some change addresses.

In Electrum, did you click "Options" and check the box marked "BIP39 seed"?
Do the Electrum addresses start with the character "1"?
Are the address you are using on your Blockchain.com wallet in the first wallet, or have you created additional wallets on the "Wallets & Addresses page"?

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

I can't find a private key for the address you said to export in my wallet. It doesnt show up in my used address folder.

You will only be able to export the individual private key for that address is the address was imported from somewhere else in to your blockchain.com wallet. Blockchain.com does not allow you to export private keys for addresses generated by them - in this case, you will need to use your seed phrase.

I tried to use my seed to export my wallet into electrum. I followed directions for setting up an export from blockchain.info to a electrum wallet perfectly. I did that and my Electrum wallet came out with 20 rec addresses that have no relation to my blockchain wallet and then some change addresses.

In Electrum, did you click "Options" and check the box marked "BIP39 seed"?
Do the Electrum addresses start with the character "1"?
Are the address you are using on your Blockchain.com wallet in the first wallet, or have you created additional wallets on the "Wallets & Addresses page"?

Oh yeah it was not a imported address

90% certain it was the BIP39 as memory serves me thats the choice the guide I followed said to do.

All the electrum addresses start with bc1 both rec and change.

As far as bolded I believe all address are in that wallet. I havent created additional but their is multiple transactions on there.

[LoyceV]

90% certain it was the BIP39 as memory serves me thats the choice the guide I followed said to do.

All the electrum addresses start with bc1 both rec and change.

Did you forgot to select Legacy while creating the wallet in Electrum?

If your seed words are from a bip39 wallet (i.e. not Electrum) you will be shown this window below. Choose the legacy p2pkh option if the addresses in the originating wallet begin with ‘1’, p2sh-segwit if they begin with ‘3’ and native segwit if they begin with ‘bc1’:

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

@loyceV

Honestly I'm not 100% if I did. It was a very foreign process to me. I followed a guide I think I did that but I'm maybe only 70% on that one. I take it I can retry the same process with uninstalling the electrum wallet and its not going to mess anything up anywhere?

[LoyceV]

I take it I can retry the same process with without uninstalling the electrum wallet and its not going to mess anything up anywhere?

I've edited your quote: you don't need to uninstall Electrum.
In Electrum, click File > New. You can create as many wallets as you want.

[o_e_l_e_o]

All the electrum addresses start with bc1 both rec and change.

As far as bolded I believe all address are in that wallet. I havent created additional but their is multiple transactions on there.

Should be as straightforward as Loyce says then.

Create a new wallet in Electrum, give it any name you like.
Select "Standard wallet".
Select "I already have a seed".
Enter your 12 words, click "Options" and check "BIP39 seed".
Select "legacy (p2pkh)".
Choose a password.

If the addresses are still incorrect, then I suspect the issue will be with multiple accounts which is an easy fix I can talk you through if needed.

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

I had done something wrong before but thanks to the advice from you guys it seems I have it right. So it looks like all my BTC is in this electrum wallet now including the BTC that was stuck on those unconfirmed transactions.

Now am I good to go here? I dont have to be concerned with the blockchain account or anything else? The BTC on there is just in limbo and will get be unuseable and those transactions go away?

Really appreciate the help from everyone!

[LoyceV]

So it looks like all my BTC is in this electrum wallet now including the BTC that was stuck on those unconfirmed transactions.

Even though Electrum doesn't show it, it's still "stuck" and may confirm eventually when fees drop far enough.

Now am I good to go here? I dont have to be concerned with the blockchain account or anything else?

You now have a seed that's been exposed to both a web wallet and Electrum. That's riskier than a seed that's only been exposed to Electrum.
I would create a new Electrum wallet (with bc1q addresses), securely write down and store the new seed words, and transfer all your funds there. Be smart on fees, depending on how many inputs you have it might get expensive.

The BTC on there is just in limbo and will get be unuseable and those transactions go away?

If your Blockchain wallet keeps broadcasting them, they won't just go away.

After you've moved all your Bitcoin out of your Blockchair wallet:

Assuming you've had your Blockchain.info wallet for years, you may want to read up on Forkcoins you may own.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I would create a new Electrum wallet (with bc1q addresses), securely write down and store the new seed words, and transfer all your funds there. Be smart on fees, depending on how many inputs you have it might get expensive.

OP says he was already in the process of moving coins to "a better wallet", and looking at the transaction details that "better wallet" seems to include the address bc1qlpn92jjkmfpyjfr34qu8t7zdxn2xwym8qw6f8m. I would simply create a transaction sending everything from his freshly recovered Electrum wallet to whatever this "better wallet" is, since that is the desired final destination of his funds, and skip the middle step of moving to a new Electrum wallet altogether.

You may run in to issues broadcasting a new transaction since it is a double spend. If Electrum rejects it, try swapping to a different server (Tools -> Network -> Right click on a different server and select "Use as server") and broadcasting it again.

[LoyceV]

You may run in to issues broadcasting a new transaction since it is a double spend. If Electrum rejects it, try swapping to a different server (Tools -> Network -> Right click on a different server and select "Use as server") and broadcasting it again.

I don't think Electrum even picks up the transactions at 2 sat/byte, so that shouldn't be a problem.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I don't think Electrum even picks up the transactions at 2 sat/byte, so that shouldn't be a problem.

It depends on which server he is using. If he connects to a server which uses a full node which has dropped the old transactions (as you did when you checked), then they won't show up and he should be able to broadcast a new transaction without issue. However, he might connect to a server whose associated node still has the old transaction in its mempool, and so he would need to swap to a different server before he could broadcast his new transaction so it isn't rejected as a double spend.

[cheeseburgerlover8912]

Well sent the entire balance to another wallet with a bigger fee. Hopefully it works out ok. Waiting about 30mins so far for confirmation. Maybe awhile with the circumstances. Hopefully no server switches and good to go.

Thanks again for the help everyone!