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April 16, 2021, 09:07:32 PM
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Yea there are a bunch of telegram bots for this but why forum itself cannot have this feature? please provide me with a link to the thread if this was discussed before

1) You receive a notification into your messages page first


2) "Alerts" section on my messages page


3) And something like this


Wouldn't that be helpful?

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April 16, 2021, 09:24:50 PM
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There are lots of discussion related to this.

Due to some of these features cannot be implemented on the current forum software or not that prioritize, idk. Some members made their very own contribution (telegram bots notifications, etc. which you mentioned) just to deliver this lacking features.

Btw there's a message alert when you receive a pm, just check the "show pop up when you receive new messages"
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April 16, 2021, 09:35:38 PM
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There used to be a bot that would automatically send PMs to people when criteria was met, including options to notify you when you were quoted, or when you were mentioned. The bot hasn't been online since the end of 2019, and hasn't posted any notifications since May 2019, presumably because the VPS bill stopped getting paid.

The person who created the bot, Piggy hasn't posted since July 2019, and was last online about a year ago. I am guessing he either lost interest in the forum, or is taking an extended break.
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April 16, 2021, 09:58:24 PM
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Yea there are a bunch of telegram bots for this but why forum itself cannot have this feature?
Perhaps this forum software is too old to support such features?

I am still a little comfortable with the telegram bots. The suggested feature would definitely make me forget or skip important PMs thinking they are just notifications  Cheesy
Another advantage about the bots is that the updates are real time unlike the forum where you first have to refresh in order to see a new message notification.

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April 16, 2021, 10:20:30 PM
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Btw there's a message alert when you receive a pm, just check the "show pop up when you receive new messages"
Yes, there is. I meant that the notification alerts would also come to the same page.

There used to be a bot
Yeah, but who needs a bot when you can implement it onto the forum. Looks like there is a reason why the forum can't have it.

The suggested feature would definitely make me forget or skip important PMs thinking they are just notifications  Cheesy
This one makes sense Cheesy But anyways better than missing it.

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April 17, 2021, 02:30:38 AM
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I would rather prefer a direct link to alert page in blue bar than going through 'My messages'. But I get the gist.

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April 17, 2021, 02:40:38 AM
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There used to be a bot
Yeah, but who needs a bot when you can implement it onto the forum. Looks like there is a reason why the forum can't have it.

Theymos appears to prefer that forum members release their own userscripts to implement additional forum features. Implementing additional features directly on the forum means there is the potential for additional security risks.
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April 17, 2021, 02:58:14 AM
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I would rather prefer a direct link to alert page in blue bar than going through 'My messages'. But I get the gist.
I just click or tap the [new] on the topics that I have previously replied and just check if I get quoted by other users, it is much faster to do that because if you are not quoted then you can just go back and search for another or click another [new].

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April 17, 2021, 05:29:53 AM
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Maybe it's because of the software that the forum used that feature like that can't be implemented on this forum. I also prefer forum user to make their own userscripts. Due to the software used in the forum that it may cause security risk. Yes, it would be good to have feature like thay but I would like it to be a notification rather than message as you may think that a DM would be a notification message when you are quoted.

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April 17, 2021, 05:31:05 AM
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I think it's not appropriate if we put this notification into a message tab its better if we create additional notifications right there side by my messages also it might be spam on your messages too if you put it there. Just my recommendation too. I guess sometimes mostly us didn't watch too many notifications because it's just about the quote. Also, email notification on the forum is enough for me I guess.

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April 17, 2021, 06:39:58 AM
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Wouldn't that be helpful?

Yes, I totally agree with that. Most forums have a similar system and I am surprised that this one does not have one. I'm surprised it's for a security issue as @Quickseller comments but I suppose there is some reason like that.

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April 17, 2021, 07:39:50 AM
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Good feature to have but it is impossible to implement with the existing software and we already have lot of telegram and notification bot then why we need to use resources from the forum?

Even myself subscribed to 3 telegram bots and one notification feature.

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April 17, 2021, 08:34:52 AM
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This thread can be considered similar to yours so I'm mentioning it for you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264374.0

Basically, the thread is about not using telegram anymore and the OP there resulted in using the LoyceV notification bot, which is ideal as well.
Maybe after every notification, use a bot to message you directly using a bot account in the forum or something? To let you see a Message.

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April 17, 2021, 09:35:54 AM
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Implementing additional features directly on the forum means there is the potential for additional security risks.
Can't you afford high-end software security engineers when you hold hundreds of bitcoins :/

Yes, but it's more likely such feature will be implemented on epoch talk (the new forum). For now, i use LoyceV's notification feature, [WORKING] LoyceV's alternative for Piggy's @mention notification bot.
Hopefully, Epoch talk will have it. I will go for LoyceV's creation in this case. Thanks for the feedbacks and suggestions ya'll.

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April 17, 2021, 11:10:17 AM
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Yeah, it would be helpful, though I believe it was one of the features being worked on for the new forum software.

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April 17, 2021, 01:39:10 PM
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Hopefully, Epoch talk will have it. I will go for LoyceV's creation in this case. Thanks for the feedbacks and suggestions ya'll.

Yeah, it would be helpful, though I believe it was one of the features being worked on for the new forum software.

Any idea when the new software will be implemented? I don't go almost for that section but I see that the threads there started 7 years ago.

It's not that I'm too expectant about the new software either as some things could be improved, like what is talked about in this thread, but I've seen software changes in other forums that I didn't like.


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April 18, 2021, 07:17:58 AM
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For now, i use LoyceV's notification feature, [WORKING] LoyceV's alternative for Piggy's @mention notification bot.
Thanks for reminding me that I was planning on activating LoyceV's bot a long time ago but forgot to bookmark the thread so I forgot about it. I don't use Telegram and ever since Piggy's bot stopped working I have been without a notification service. 

Are you happy with how LoyceV's bot works?
Do all quotes and mentions get recorded or does it miss the occasional one or two? 

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April 18, 2021, 10:10:05 AM
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I don't think anyone will work on this old forum software with making any changes like notifications and alerts, but we may see this in new Epochtalk forum if it ever comes out.

Meanwhile you can use only one telegram bot for all notifications Yet Another BitcoinTalk Notification BOT, made by TryNinja, and you will get all notifications about mentions, merits, topics, etc.
@BTTSuperNotifier_bot

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April 18, 2021, 10:28:46 AM
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Are you happy with how LoyceV's bot works?
Do all quotes and mentions get recorded or does it miss the occasional one or two?
I checked 10,000 posts yesterday, and I missed 1 (0.01%). I'm troubleshooting Smiley

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April 18, 2021, 02:11:45 PM
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Wouldn't that be helpful?

Yes, I totally agree with that. Most forums have a similar system and I am surprised that this one does not have one. I'm surprised it's for a security issue as @Quickseller comments but I suppose there is some reason like that.

Anytime you introduce new functionality, there is the possibility it will be exploited. Years ago, the ability to upload an avatar was exploited and said exploit was used to hack the forum. There are many forum members who have the ability to and are willing to create user scripts that will give the functionality that forum users want, and these user scripts will not present the same potential security risks.

Implementing additional features directly on the forum means there is the potential for additional security risks.
Can't you afford high-end software security engineers when you hold hundreds of bitcoins :/
See my above comment.
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