OH YEAH FRUSTATED TRADERS.

[andriarto]

things like this that often happen to us. when you lose sometimes feel heavy hearted to let it go, hoping that the market will rise again. therefore we must have a framework as a reference for our work. that way we will be disciplined, and can lock greed within us

[oHnK]

We need to accept losses and at the same time we should not be greedy so that we can stick within our trading plan which is the first rule of controlling emotions in trading. When we are good at the emotion control then we can easily avoid frustrations in trading.

Yeah traders are becoming frustrated when they keep worrying on unexpected results. So, I agree we must need to accept all the results of trading which can be profits sometimes and losses in different occasions. But, traders must need to treat both of them as same thing. It may not be possible for all the traders from the beginning but over the times of practicing, I guess it will become possible.

Avoiding frustration needs lots of practices but unlike demo trading, people do not need to go for any specialized training for this. Just remembering basic rules of emotion control will help anyone to avoid frustration.

In that case, we better stop thinking about profit but instead of thinking about losses. Maybe this could help to avoid frustration.
Traders had overly think about that trading could make them profitable and rich which is just eventually different. Maybe some did the best and reach their goal but I know it wasn't in an easy way. And just like us, they also suffer losses, tested their faith, and most likely, they'll come into frustration but they were able to manage themselves and conquer such feeling that is why they succeed.

A good risk manager has an eye on both sides anyway. One eye on the winning side, that is profits when the price goes up of course, but on the other side is the losing side and a good risk manager not only tries to increase the profit side, but also to minimize the loss side. Part of it is to be ready to sell an asset without running in circles in your head whether it could go up again minutes later when in fact you are convinced it will actually go down.

It is fortunate that someone who is skilled at mitigating the risks exists because for me it is something that is very difficult for me to do.  FOMO continues to haunt you, but relax when prices are affordable.  I was so frustrated seeing the hype market but I didn't participate in it.  Please teach me to be able to feel the profit that other people often feel.  Stuck on fundamental factors even though profit always happens to shitcoin.

[Desscount]

things like this that often happen to us. when you lose sometimes feel heavy hearted to let it go, hoping that the market will rise again. therefore we must have a framework as a reference for our work. that way we will be disciplined, and can lock greed within us

are you experiencing frustration now? many altcoins are now experiencing more than 10% decline just because the price of bitcoin has decreased by 5%,
but Bitcoin dominance has seen a dump and is now at 45%, of course this is a good thing for altcoins it should be, whether many still want to accumulate in low price,
buy gradually when correction is the right thing for now.

[sarmrakib]

It doesn't get old that there will someone who would share their losses because they've bought at the top and sold at loss. It's a never ending story because there will always be newbies that cannot take their emotions when they see the coin that they've bought starts to go down.
Buying at the dip is what everyone is recommending but you shall know it on your own if you're going to look at it and all of us have proper timings on it, whichever is the good price and coin to buy.

I also have noticed that most of the newbies are get into invest on Fomo. They always fall into it and as you said they can't control their emotions. However it is always need to be more patience before enter tge market you have to choose a right moment to entry and avoid the Fomo. Remond that a good project always gives us a huge return if there is Fomo. So we need to more wise before entry if we wanna get a good profit.

[Kelvinid]

It doesn't get old that there will someone who would share their losses because they've bought at the top and sold at loss. It's a never ending story because there will always be newbies that cannot take their emotions when they see the coin that they've bought starts to go down.
Buying at the dip is what everyone is recommending but you shall know it on your own if you're going to look at it and all of us have proper timings on it, whichever is the good price and coin to buy.

I also have noticed that most of the newbies are get into invest on Fomo. They always fall into it and as you said they can't control their emotions. However it is always need to be more patience before enter tge market you have to choose a right moment to entry and avoid the Fomo. Remond that a good project always gives us a huge return if there is Fomo. So we need to more wise before entry if we wanna get a good profit.

That is because they don't know yet what they are doing. And also they have been tricked by someone saying trading could make them rich (instantly). That is pretty ensane, they are so blind about that and then they will saying that Bitcoin is a scam, crypto is a scam because they now suffering losses ( at their fault) and frustrations.

I don't only saying newbie did this but some of those greedy souls as well. I'll never be expecting to have this scenario come to an end. As long as there are a lot of people who are hungry for money, frustrations are still there. This was a continuous problem.

[doomloop]

FOMO is one of the big enemy that needs to be conquered if you want to succeed in trading and investing. alot of people usually neglect investing at the early stage but only wake up to join the train when its halfway or near the destination. the oppression from friends and mates is also one of the things that make people fomo. thats why its always important to keep your emotions under control. dont be oppressed by anyones profit, you will make your own if you do the right thing.

FOMO can be really bad and a lot of people don’t realize that, they just bump in and start buying because there is a bull run. Most of them have heard about Bitcoin since before the bull run, but they didn’t want to invest because they thought it’s not going to grow again, now that they are seeing the growth they all wants to rush in. I have had people ask me whether they should invest at this time of bull run, I never give them any answer, they just looking for who to blame and point fingers at in case it doesn’t work out for them.

Like the you said, anyone that wants to be successful needs to learn to invest their money at the right time.

[bitgolden]

I also have noticed that most of the newbies are get into invest on Fomo. They always fall into it and as you said they can't control their emotions. However it is always need to be more patience before enter tge market you have to choose a right moment to entry and avoid the Fomo. Remond that a good project always gives us a huge return if there is Fomo. So we need to more wise before entry if we wanna get a good profit.

That hype created around certain coins do make a very dangerous situation as well.
Right now all the new projects only care about marketing and not about technological advancement.

I have seen so many new DeFi projects that paid 100k+ dollars just on marketing and probably spend under 10k on development. Why? Because all these newbies are interested in buying something just for marketing, and if you do marketing very well, you do not have to do anything else, you can be copy of something else with different design and as long as you can market it you will profit.

[justdimin]

I have seen so many new DeFi projects that paid 100k+ dollars just on marketing and probably spend under 10k on development. Why? Because all these newbies are interested in buying something just for marketing, and if you do marketing very well, you do not have to do anything else, you can be copy of something else with different design and as long as you can market it you will profit.

Yes you are right for example, look at safemoon, most people have no clue what it is, most people didn't even read any docs or whitepaper, they are purely believing on the marketing wave and they only care to make a profit, buy now, sell when its higher and that’s it and safemoon is riding that.

So, it is not really that ideal situation for now, we need to get back on fundamentals otherwise market may trick us at any time for unknown reasons for sure.

[Issa56]

I know how painful it is for a coin to be pumping and you are left behind you will definitely want to join a moving train which is very bad because you might be lucky and thesame time you might not be lucky because am always  having thesame problem which I know is really bad and I know that in this process you will always loose money which is really bad if you can't invest in a coin when the price is still very low don't invest when the price is already pumping.

[Ziskinberg]

I have seen so many new DeFi projects that paid 100k+ dollars just on marketing and probably spend under 10k on development. Why? Because all these newbies are interested in buying something just for marketing, and if you do marketing very well, you do not have to do anything else, you can be copy of something else with different design and as long as you can market it you will profit.

Yes you are right for example, look at safemoon, most people have no clue what it is, most people didn't even read any docs or whitepaper, they are purely believing on the marketing wave and they only care to make a profit, buy now, sell when its higher and that’s it and safemoon is riding that.

So, it is not really that ideal situation for now, we need to get back on fundamentals otherwise market may trick us at any time for unknown reasons for sure.

But what I can see is that most of the new investors had given no interest to know more about the project. They are just riding on the market flow, buy now and sell later. And they will leave soon when the Bullrun will end and these types of people had no plan to commit long-term investment but just a short-term deal. So, we can't expect them to take care of the crypto world but they could be the reason for the market failure.

[milewilda]

I have seen so many new DeFi projects that paid 100k+ dollars just on marketing and probably spend under 10k on development. Why? Because all these newbies are interested in buying something just for marketing, and if you do marketing very well, you do not have to do anything else, you can be copy of something else with different design and as long as you can market it you will profit.

Yes you are right for example, look at safemoon, most people have no clue what it is, most people didn't even read any docs or whitepaper, they are purely believing on the marketing wave and they only care to make a profit, buy now, sell when its higher and that’s it and safemoon is riding that.

So, it is not really that ideal situation for now, we need to get back on fundamentals otherwise market may trick us at any time for unknown reasons for sure.

But what I can see is that most of the new investors had given no interest to know more about the project. They are just riding on the market flow, buy now and sell later. And they will leave soon when the Bullrun will end and these types of people had no plan to commit long-term investment but just a short-term deal. So, we can't expect them to take care of the crypto world but they could be the reason for the market failure.

Even myself doesnt already hold up something in my portfolio which i do only plan or tend to hold for long term.I do much prefer on seeing profits in a short span of time.
Frustration is part on this market because we cant just expect that we would really be making profits in constant basis which these kind of reactions is a bit common.
Thing here is that you do know how to accept losses and learn from it so that in next time you would really know on what you should do even not in precise
manner but at least you would really be doing well compared into your yesterdays trading.

[tygeade]

what I can see is that most of the new investors had given no interest to know more about the project. They are just riding on the market flow, buy now and sell later. And they will leave soon when the Bullrun will end and these types of people had no plan to commit long-term investment but just a short-term deal. So, we can't expect them to take care of the crypto world but they could be the reason for the market failure.

Yes, that is the big differences between investors and traders. We cannot expect traders will be continuously persisting in this crypto space by contributing in all the means for building stronger marketcap for the entire cryptos. But they are all working only for their own benefits and we can expect them to pull off at any time which will definitely affect all the other investors who are all planning for long term holding.

But, we must need these traders to take our market into new heights so that the investors will keep attracting and will be coming-in. So everything is happening for a reason and over the time it will end up in good reason  like building more stronger this crypto space.

[fancy2973]

what I can see is that most of the new investors had given no interest to know more about the project. They are just riding on the market flow, buy now and sell later. And they will leave soon when the Bullrun will end and these types of people had no plan to commit long-term investment but just a short-term deal. So, we can't expect them to take care of the crypto world but they could be the reason for the market failure.

Yes, that is the big differences between investors and traders. We cannot expect traders will be continuously persisting in this crypto space by contributing in all the means for building stronger marketcap for the entire cryptos. But they are all working only for their own benefits and we can expect them to pull off at any time which will definitely affect all the other investors who are all planning for long term holding.

But, we must need these traders to take our market into new heights so that the investors will keep attracting and will be coming-in. So everything is happening for a reason and over the time it will end up in good reason  like building more stronger this crypto space.

I believe the damage traders could cause is limited except for a couple of coins that are thin in volume and only pumped. Bitcoin and Ethereum benefit from so much more apart from just getting pumped. Ethereum is under constant development and Bitcoin has the first mover advantage a really strong following in general. Even the big players won't be interested in cashing the price at all. Those who hold a lot of Bitcoin will either try to sell slowly or not sell at all. Unless the exchanges don't collude  am not afraid of heavy dumping. The exchanges always win no matter where the price goes for as long as the volume stays high and it will stay high because everyone is excited about crypto.

[wiss19]

we must need these traders to take our market into new heights so that the investors will keep attracting and will be coming-in. So everything is happening for a reason and over the time it will end up in good reason  like building more stronger this crypto space.

Yes I agree because we cannot expect everyone to be turning as a long-term holders. Moreover only those people who are able to understand the potential of bitcoins, becoming true adapters like planning for long-term holding and all others are just looking for a moment benefits and more importantly like you have mentioned they are market movers and also taking bitcoin prices in to new heights which is more important in the long run.

[Fredomago]

we must need these traders to take our market into new heights so that the investors will keep attracting and will be coming-in. So everything is happening for a reason and over the time it will end up in good reason  like building more stronger this crypto space.

Yes I agree because we cannot expect everyone to be turning as a long-term holders. Moreover only those people who are able to understand the potential of bitcoins, becoming true adapters like planning for long-term holding and all others are just looking for a moment benefits and more importantly like you have mentioned they are market movers and also taking bitcoin prices in to new heights which is more important in the long run.

Those who understand well are capable of holding and they are the one who can really create strong barrier to this asset.

You have to understand the flow and you need to work on it to how you'll take your position from each sentiments that showing around you, patience is the key to eerything, you'll learn more while you experienced both sides, between bull and bear there's knowledge upon.

Cool it down and observe, there's aways good outcome to those who understand the market flows and patiently observing what type of
strategy to use while working inside this business.

[FanEagle]

more importantly like you have mentioned they are market movers and also taking bitcoin prices in to new heights which is more important in the long run.

Just think this way, we have everyone as long term holders and only 1% to 5% people are trading and miners also preferring to hold like 90% of their block rewards then what will happen? Could you imagine like that kind of scenario?

That would be a situation where traders may not face frustrations if they opt long positions only because will remain bullish all times and we may not have that 4 years cycle of bitcoin markets. All the above bitcoin might have got chances to hit mainstream. But, we are into a situation where short term traders are hurting everyone as they are acting for their benefits alone.

[Vaculin]

In that case, we better stop thinking about profit but instead of thinking about losses. Maybe this could help to avoid frustration.
Traders had overly think about that trading could make them profitable and rich which is just eventually different. Maybe some did the best and reach their goal but I know it wasn't in an easy way. And just like us, they also suffer losses, tested their faith, and most likely, they'll come into frustration but they were able to manage themselves and conquer such feeling that is why they succeed.

A good risk manager has an eye on both sides anyway. One eye on the winning side, that is profits when the price goes up of course, but on the other side is the losing side and a good risk manager not only tries to increase the profit side, but also to minimize the loss side. Part of it is to be ready to sell an asset without running in circles in your head whether it could go up again minutes later when in fact you are convinced it will actually go down.

That is why we have to make a market analysis first before making decisions. It is very unfortunate that most never do that instead of having used their emotions to help. Thus, we need to widen our market understanding, not only to focus on the other sides but to take a look also on both sides. We had suffered frustration that's because we don't accept that we lose (which is a part of trading).

[Quidat]

In that case, we better stop thinking about profit but instead of thinking about losses. Maybe this could help to avoid frustration.
Traders had overly think about that trading could make them profitable and rich which is just eventually different. Maybe some did the best and reach their goal but I know it wasn't in an easy way. And just like us, they also suffer losses, tested their faith, and most likely, they'll come into frustration but they were able to manage themselves and conquer such feeling that is why they succeed.

A good risk manager has an eye on both sides anyway. One eye on the winning side, that is profits when the price goes up of course, but on the other side is the losing side and a good risk manager not only tries to increase the profit side, but also to minimize the loss side. Part of it is to be ready to sell an asset without running in circles in your head whether it could go up again minutes later when in fact you are convinced it will actually go down.

That is why we have to make a market analysis first before making decisions. It is very unfortunate that most never do that instead of having used their emotions to help. Thus, we need to widen our market understanding, not only to focus on the other sides but to take a look also on both sides. We had suffered frustration that's because we don't accept that we lose (which is a part of trading).

Frustration is actually part of this on what we are doing because no one would really be that happy on seeing that their money is lost due to trading and we do hope for profits
but actually these loses are  the best teachers for us to learn up into something and its true that the longer we've been dealing with this market the more experienced we are
and the more we do able to handle out our emotions.If you do just accept the reality about winning or lossing trades then it wont really be giving out much effect on you
in the time you would be making out some trades.

[ashmodeus]

its a common thing on investor dialy life , Fomo today Fud tomorrow, i just wonder , why u should care about other people's investment ? , i mean just let them invested to any they want , as long as there is jealousy and envy, we will never to be rich

[Viscore]

its a common thing on investor dialy life , Fomo today Fud tomorrow, i just wonder , why u should care about other people's investment ? , i mean just let them invested to any they want , as long as there is jealousy and envy, we will never to be rich

We can never see any changes if people will never learn the biggest mistakes of their life. I really don't know why, it is likely we don't see any chances that this will put an end but just a continuous problem. Frustration, desperation, and etc...everything has seen negative results has badly grown as many people had come without knowing what they do. That actually a suicidal move they do and they will end up being frustrated, and then blames people around.