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April 20, 2021, 05:05:05 PM
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I'm a person who still doesn't know much about bitcoin. In the last 2 weeks I always took the time to read and find out what bitcoin is?
From various things that I have read, it seems that there are several parties who consider bitcoin a "threat" to the world economy, especially the real sector. In short, investing in bitcoin can disrupt real sector investment.
In my opinion, the greater interest of the world community in bitcoin is an opportunity that can be converted to be able to move the real sector business world. All political power holders in the world must be proactive in responding to this great opportunity.
What do you think about seeing the phenomenon above?

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April 20, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
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In short, investing in bitcoin can disrupt real sector investment.


How do you mean on this?

I'm yet to understand that. Are you saying someone who invest in bitcoin will find it difficult to invest also in real sector or what do you say ? If it is your point, then I say it helps you to diversify. It does not disrupt if you have money, you can also invest in other business.

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April 21, 2021, 02:03:45 AM
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In short, investing in bitcoin can disrupt real sector investment.


How do you mean on this?

I'm yet to understand that. Are you saying someone who invest in bitcoin will find it difficult to invest also in real sector or what do you say ? If it is your point, then I say it helps you to diversify. It does not disrupt if you have money, you can also invest in other business.
thank you for your comment.
I don't want to say that those who invest in bitcoin will find it difficult to invest in the real sector. In fact, I hope that political and economic policies around the world will proactively push regulations so that bitcoin is legally guaranteed. My point is to express some opinions from what I read about bitcoin which say that the higher public response to investing in bitcoin can reduce the performance of real deposit investments. They argue that bitcoin creates a very high risk of volatility because its value is determined predominantly by expectations of future supply and demand.
Thank you.
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April 21, 2021, 04:24:56 AM
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If we were to use bitcoin as is, I don't think that it is a good idea yet because a lot of supply chain isn't using bitcoin as a mode of payment so I don't think that we are going to see some business fully integrating bitcoin, maybe as a payment option but not for their business related transactions.

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April 21, 2021, 04:34:44 AM
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In short, investing in bitcoin can disrupt real sector investment.


How do you mean on this?

I'm yet to understand that. Are you saying someone who invest in bitcoin will find it difficult to invest also in real sector or what do you say ? If it is your point, then I say it helps you to diversify. It does not disrupt if you have money, you can also invest in other business.
thank you for your comment.
I don't want to say that those who invest in bitcoin will find it difficult to invest in the real sector. In fact, I hope that political and economic policies around the world will proactively push regulations so that bitcoin is legally guaranteed. My point is to express some opinions from what I read about bitcoin which say that the higher public response to investing in bitcoin can reduce the performance of real deposit investments. They argue that bitcoin creates a very high risk of volatility because its value is determined predominantly by expectations of future supply and demand.
Thank you.
Many new regulations have been made to enhance the investing opportunities of bitcoin. The process is implemented with a stagnant speed because of the power of the central banks as well as the government who want to keep bitcoin low. However, this does not stop bitcoin from being wide-spreaded around the globe. Publishers and prominent investors already make a lot statements of bitcoin, either support or criticize.

I do believe that someday bitcoin will play an important role in the economic system. It is being recognized more and more, day by day. Melioration is needed, especially in the data era where everything changes with an outstanding pace. New technology is likely to replace traditional ones every 10 years. Sooner or later, governments will have a more decent regulation on using, storing and supporting bitcoin (or even the whole cryptocurrency world)

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April 21, 2021, 05:35:17 AM
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Bitcoin can and has funded several real world businesses already. The concept of ICO was essentially designed to enable developers obtain funding in the form of crypto for their projects. It is another thing that it resulted in 4000+ Alt-coins on coinmarketcap. Despite the problems, several of the developers have gone ahead and delivered software and websites. Communities have sprung around these projects and increasing the usage and turnover.

There is also the Seastead project which utilized BTC funding from OGs to deploy a proof of concept for living spaces built in international waters. So its already being used in the way you are speculating about.



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April 21, 2021, 06:54:12 AM
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Bitcoin can and has funded several real world businesses already. The concept of ICO was essentially designed to enable developers obtain funding in the form of crypto for their projects. It is another thing that it resulted in 4000+ Alt-coins on coinmarketcap. Despite the problems, several of the developers have gone ahead and delivered software and websites. Communities have sprung around these projects and increasing the usage and turnover.

There is also the Seastead project which utilized BTC funding from OGs to deploy a proof of concept for living spaces built in international waters. So its already being used in the way you are speculating about.
Well, ICOs are a failure though as there are only a few that did succeed and most of them are quick money grab. I have heard of the seasteads in the forum but I have never thought that they did a proof of concept, did they also use bitcoin or cryptocurrency to pay for the suppliers and the manpower for the seasteads because that is the biggest bitcoin usage as a currency if they did so.
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April 21, 2021, 10:31:13 AM
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My point is to express some opinions from what I read about bitcoin which say that the higher public response to investing in bitcoin can reduce the performance of real deposit investments. They argue that bitcoin creates a very high risk of volatility because its value is determined predominantly by expectations of future supply and demand.
Thank you.
Real deposit investments? What does that even mean? Is it banks?
If it is then it's their problem especially in the private sector.
Yes, Bitcoin is volatile and it had always been a choice of the individual to invest with it. There is no terms of agreement or whatever agreement they do with banks.
I like it more that way. You are your own bank.
My problem with banks is they are the only one making money from all the investment they did with our money. "Our money."
1 percent or less annually? Then how much for them considering there is less risk with where they put it.
But look at us, looking for an option to avoid them with high risk investment.

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April 21, 2021, 01:19:28 PM
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If we were to use bitcoin as is, I don't think that it is a good idea yet because a lot of supply chain isn't using bitcoin as a mode of payment so I don't think that we are going to see some business fully integrating bitcoin, maybe as a payment option but not for their business related transactions.
In fact, philosophically bitcoin has basic criteria as a medium of exchange like any other transaction tool. it's just that you need to get legal support from policy makers in countries in the world. This is very necessary in order to make a complete understanding between the parties with an interest in the transaction, both direct and indirect transactions in the business mechanism.
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Many new regulations have been made to enhance the investing opportunities of bitcoin. The process is implemented with a stagnant speed because of the power of the central banks as well as the government who want to keep bitcoin low. However, this does not stop bitcoin from being wide-spreaded around the globe. Publishers and prominent investors already make a lot statements of bitcoin, either support or criticize.

I do believe that someday bitcoin will play an important role in the economic system. It is being recognized more and more, day by day. Melioration is needed, especially in the data era where everything changes with an outstanding pace. New technology is likely to replace traditional ones every 10 years. Sooner or later, governments will have a more decent regulation on using, storing and supporting bitcoin (or even the whole cryptocurrency world)
The great respect of the world community for bitcoin is the main force in realizing the goal of making bitcoin a global transaction tool.
I agree with your optimistic way of thinking, sooner or later bitcoin will be the best in the world. It needs a strong commitment and great cohesiveness from forward-thinking stakeholders so that the global transaction pattern becomes more independent and fair.
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My point is to express some opinions from what I read about bitcoin which say that the higher public response to investing in bitcoin can reduce the performance of real deposit investments. They argue that bitcoin creates a very high risk of volatility because its value is determined predominantly by expectations of future supply and demand.
Thank you.
Real deposit investments? What does that even mean? Is it banks?
If it is then it's their problem especially in the private sector.
Yes, Bitcoin is volatile and it had always been a choice of the individual to invest with it. There is no terms of agreement or whatever agreement they do with banks.
I like it more that way. You are your own bank.
My problem with banks is they are the only one making money from all the investment they did with our money. "Our money."
1 percent or less annually? Then how much for them considering there is less risk with where they put it.
But look at us, looking for an option to avoid them with high risk investment.
I am very amazed by what you have to say, have a strong value of belief and optimism.
basically the main values ​​contained in bitcoin are freedom, independence and equality. Bitcoin is spared the intervention of power, it is in a self-regulating, highly independent and self-reliant market.
the higher the risk, the higher the chance of making a profit. Each of us is naturally encouraged to analyze these risks in a measured manner based on the situation and conditions of each region, so that in the end there will be a market mechanism that is truly fair and independent.
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Real deposit investments? What does that even mean? Is it banks?
If it is then it's their problem especially in the private sector.
Yes, Bitcoin is volatile and it had always been a choice of the individual to invest with it. There is no terms of agreement or whatever agreement they do with banks.
I like it more that way. You are your own bank.
My problem with banks is they are the only one making money from all the investment they did with our money. "Our money."
1 percent or less annually? Then how much for them considering there is less risk with where they put it.
But look at us, looking for an option to avoid them with high risk investment.
Yeah, I guess as in stock markets, savings accounts and many stuff like that. During this period many people stopped paying money to their 401k (or whatever it is called in their nation) and put that money into crypto, some even cashed out of all their retirement funds and put money into bitcoin. The expected result was a big loss, why? Because you should put your retirement funds into something that actually worths money, without it you should not be really doing anything risky and you will be living a horrible retirement, if you have no money that means you will need to work when you are 70+ years old as well, what else can you do?

But contrary to what people were afraid of, it actually worked, bitcoin and all other things went up a lot and these people made a lot of money. This is why I think it is quite cool to see so many people getting rich from crypto.

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April 21, 2021, 08:42:32 PM
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What do you think about seeing the phenomenon above?
Well, I am sorry for my opinion but the moment you used ["real sector”] where is bitcoin can be converted could be misinterpreted as you considered bitcoin as not a real sector in fact that it is now becoming one slowly [as Coinbase being listed to exchange]. Perhaps the term is somehow could be changed and I guess the right term for that is [traditional real sector] as bitcoin is still considered as a real sector on a different market and a decentralized one but still provides service such as transactional convenience. Sooner or later, cryptocurrency will be considered as a mode of exchange it just scares me at the time that they will totally regulate cryptocurrency incorrectly









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April 21, 2021, 09:06:21 PM
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A lot of bitcoin investors today still uses bitcoin and I say this out of personal experience especially living in a third world country where a lot of persons are still not fully aware or lacking a lot of details on what bitcoin is. As such, all who invests in bitcoin are still strongly involved in the use of local currency which is the fiat. Bitcoin hasn't gotten a universal acceptance and as such, there are several roles for which the fiat currency plays in the society of which bitcoin is not very suitable. At the moment,  most merchants arent accepting it as a means of payment which means, you might as well withdraw from your bitcoin investment and transact in fiat and in that instance, the economy is favoured. It doesn't matter much where you invest.

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Idk what you mean by 'real sector' but as far as I know, institutional investors are already involved in bitcoin investments and their numbers are just constantly growing every day. Sure they cannot fund whatever investment or whatever sector they already belong to, but the cryptocurrency acquisitions they are making are being added to their portfolios. It makes them rich on paper, and technically helps them get enough 'credit' to fund for their other ventures.

While not being able to use bitcoin per se to buy things or to close deals, the cryptocurrency still gives them some leverage for the future if in case bitcoin is to be fully integrated and used for transactions and whatnot.

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