Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet - Which is best?

[shoreno]

We’ve been fans of Stake and Sportsbet since they entered the bitcoin community.

Here's a few reasons that separates our book from the others.

- We have a wide coverage of markets, and often with the best odds. We regularly host zero margins promotions.
- We are one of the few books in the world to offer API, enabling our players to automate their betting strategies.
- We offer sports previews and data insights by bringing in top sports journalist and analysts.
- We actively listen to our players, we constantly improve our site based on players feedback and requests.

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

Can't go wrong with any of them, all awesome platforms for their own unique reasons.

yup especially stake ? ehehe just kidding but its nice to see that owners of each platforms have a respect to each other . thats a healthy competition going on

[MrcMrc]

The stake has always taken the lead in sports booking, with their media publication and ambassadorial award to superstars in sport such as Israel and the rest.

Stake.com gives good odds in sports betting and offers live matches.

[FatFork]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

Of course, KYC is a bad thing. To begin, you may not want to give out your personal info because you don't know where that might end up at some point. No matter how legitimate the site appears to be at the moment, this does not rule out the possibility of a data leak.

[harizen]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

[milewilda]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

Crypto gambling had become known or popular because of that anonymity feature on where people could play without minding about kyc and stuffs but since they are regulated then expect for some changes in near future where these platforms are regulated and need to follow up something for them to continue its operations. For now gambling sites does have the right to ask for kyc but just on some circumstances.
In the topic question then those bookies are good imho. Why not also put betcoin.ag in the list?

[Fortify]

The crypto sportsbook game looks to now be dominated by three clearly superior sites; Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet. There are other good sportsbooks around, but these three are on another level in terms of promotions, usability, customer service etc.

But which of the three do you prefer and use yourself? Or is there another sportsbook you prefer?

The biggest problem arising with the big boys is the slow creep of KYC and other regulations. The lack of these regulations is obviously a huge positive of crypto gambling in general so is the detriment of these sportsbooks to lose that.

I did write this to show the differences between the three - https://bitedge.com/blog/cloudbet-stake-and-sportsbet-are-lightyears-ahead-of-the-rest/

If you're struggling to pick give it a read and it may offer some clarity.

I'm a big fan of Sportsbet and find that they have some of the best promotions on, I won a nice $10 free bet on the last 4-3-Free competition and don't think any other bitcoin sites have a similar offer on. The fact that they sponsor some big name UK soccer teams shows that they are definitely going to be around for a while and are happy to invest money to grow. I'm also not sure that KYC legislation will necessarily be an obstacle to these companies - Sportsbet actually developed a separate site entirely for the UK market that is compliant (sportsbetio.uk) and they can do the same in other markets if required. It really depends on the laws of where their headquarters are based as players will find ways to fund accounts with Bitcoin.

[romero121]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

I don't have any problem with KYC but it's a different story if it will impose on a gambling site, trusted or not. We are in the crypto-gambling world after all.

But in the event that, for let's say I won a decent amount and the gambling site asks me to comply with KYC, I have no choice after all but to follow.

There are sites that come into usage and make users register with KYC. Within few weeks or months time the site disappears. This happens as a result of planned execution. Here data gathering is the main objective and when they're done with that, the site gets out of usage. This is where people fear about KYC. Now such incidents were very low and everything seems to be trusted.

[harizen]

There are sites that come into usage and make users register with KYC. Within few weeks or months time the site disappears. This happens as a result of planned execution. Here data gathering is the main objective and when they're done with that, the site gets out of usage.

Seriously, there are people who will undergo KYC in a "new" gambling site?

For that, I have to put the blame on the users themselves if something wrong happened, newbie or not.

Common sense isn't used in that particular case.

[DoublerHunter]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

If we trust a site today, we don’t know what happens to it in a year or two. And there is no guarantee that the data won’t be stolen and then not leaked.

^ This is what exactly I want to say about those gambling sites that imposed KYC verification. Probably for now we trust them but how about in the future? Still, have a guarantee that our submitted documents are safe? What is the use that they are here in the crypto gambling space is to maintain being anonymous. Nevertheless, back to the OP's question, I will choose Sportsbet, Stake and the last option is cloudbet, I am particularly most concerned about the withdrawal fee, and the most I like in sportsbet is the free withdrawal fee and less required minimum amount of withdrawal, regarding the site, there is no problem with that gambling site.

[mindrust]

They are all good casinos. I heard some complaints for both cloudbet and sportsbet in the past but I believe they resolved those issues. You cannot go wrong with either of them. Be careful if you are using a VPN or if you are a US citizen though. As far as I know this is a serious issue if you are playing on Cloudbet. (it is probably the same with the other casinos.)

[BITCOIN4X]

They are all good casinos. I heard some complaints for both cloudbet and sportsbet in the past but I believe they resolved those issues. You cannot go wrong with either of them. Be careful if you are using a VPN or if you are a US citizen though. As far as I know this is a serious issue if you are playing on Cloudbet. (it is probably the same with the other casinos.)

The use of VPNs is usually prohibited by site for players living in restricted countries. In the T&C usually the site already describe the VPN ban and players should pay attention to it. For whatever reason these sites may still freeze player funds if they violate applicable rules including use of VPN by players located in restricted countries.

[Stalker22]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

If we trust a site today, we don’t know what happens to it in a year or two. And there is no guarantee that the data won’t be stolen and then not leaked.

^ This is what exactly I want to say about those gambling sites that imposed KYC verification. Probably for now we trust them but how about in the future? Still, have a guarantee that our submitted documents are safe? What is the use that they are here in the crypto gambling space is to maintain being anonymous.

The newest generation of casino players is more technologically savvy than ever. They are ready to support all the relevant developments in the industry.
However, if you ask any of them how they feel about KYC, they will almost always be opposed to it. That's why they prefer to use cryptocurrencies.

One of the main reasons for this is that players do not trust casinos with KYC. The introduction of KYC has had some unintended consequences: it has shown the extent of distrust between gambling authorities and the gambling public. And as a result, casino operators are losing a lot of customers to other casinos.

[goinmerry]

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

That account was their official forum representative here. One of the oldest accounts here (if accounts established in 2013 was old for you). It remained active answering queries and responses till now.

The pointers given on that post were actually true. And despite facing issues, they able to solve them with their own resolutions. If I'm not mistaken, they are the oldest crypto-sportsbook that still operating today. They faced tough competition before against Directbet, NitrgonSports (which is also active today), etc.

[arwin100]

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

The pointers given on that post were actually true. And despite facing issues, they able to solve them with their own resolutions. If I'm not mistaken, they are the oldest crypto-sportsbook that still operating today. They faced tough competition before against Directbet, NitrgonSports (which is also active today), etc.

They manage to maintain their reputation despite of heavy lambasting them with many scam accusations before but still they solve those and give a good action so that they can mantain their business running until today. If I'm going to choose on where to bet I will go on Cloudbet since they are quite reasonable for now.

[wxa7115]

KYC isn't really a bad thing actually, if you believe and trust site is legit, why would you not want give your detail for them?

Nonsense. What exactly is the point of playing on crypto gambling sites if we hand over our KYC details to them? Gamblers who don't have issues with submitting their KYC usually gamble on FIAT gambling sites which have way higher liquidities etc.

The primary reason why many gamblers like me are interested in crypto gambling sites is the anonymity factor basically.

Even though the site itself is reliable and trustworthy, I am not comfortable handing over my KYC to them since they are pretty much anonymous.

I will have to agree with this, if someone is not bothered by KYC policies then that is their right and I can respect their opinion, however we cannot deny that one of the biggest positive points when it comes to cryptocurrency casinos is the fact that you can play without having to go through KYC policies.

In fiat casinos you can gamble without going through KYC but as soon as you want to withdraw you need to identify yourself, and while I understand they are just following the regulations that are in place I do not see why I am supposed to accept being treated like a criminal just because I wanted to gamble a little bit, as such those policies are unacceptable to me and I am not going to tolerate a casino asking me to go through it no matter how reputable it is.

[Lanatsa]

are you the owner of cloudbet ? but it was nice to see this message coming from you . this is like a defence to your site and to inform others if what are the advantages of this site to the two .

The pointers given on that post were actually true. And despite facing issues, they able to solve them with their own resolutions. If I'm not mistaken, they are the oldest crypto-sportsbook that still operating today. They faced tough competition before against Directbet, NitrgonSports (which is also active today), etc.

They manage to maintain their reputation despite of heavy lambasting them with many scam accusations before but still they solve those and give a good action so that they can mantain their business running until today. If I'm going to choose on where to bet I will go on Cloudbet since they are quite reasonable for now.

Yeah, it was still fresh on my mind on how this sportsbook do able to retain its spot unlike Directbet or Nitro which is one is already closed and the ones had already have lots of accusations
and issues into this forum.

I don't have any issues with Cloudbet though but due to popularity then we can always choose up to the most preferred Bookies at the moment which is on sportsbet.

We can have our own choice though because choosing which one will always depend if he suits out or comfortably playing in the site.

[rickmart]

I have been using cloudbet and sportsbet.io for months now.
Here are my feelings on these 2 sportbooks

Sportsbet Pros:
- nice web site interface
- App for smartphone
- some special bets proposed that are sometimes interesting (combining multiple events)
- It was rare for me to be limited in the amounts to bet
- The more you bet, the more rewards you have (freebets, freerolls, etc ...)
- The boosted odds (1 per day on multiple sports)
- reactive support
- quick withdrawal with no fee

Sportsbet Cons:
- some bug in interface, it happened that I placed a bet and an error was displayed (my BTC account was not decremented) so I placed the bet again and finally I was surprised to see that 2 bets was settled!!
- you have to spend your deposit before a withdrawal
- I was banned from boosted odd promotion without any reason !!! I have contacted the support and they told me that  'the trading team was comfortable with their decision for this moment in time' but no further explanation ...
To be honest without the boosted odds, I do not find sportsbet.io odds very interesting compared to other sportsbooks...


Cloudbet Pros:
- nice web site interface
- 0% margin odds on special events
- reactive support
- quick withdrawal
- when you are about to place your bet, you know the max amount you can bet

Cloudbet Cons:
- withdrawal fee near 0.50 mBtc !!!!
- Sometimes some odds seem to be very interesting, but when you finally want to place a bet on it, the odd is updated.
 
  

[nelson4lov]

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As a user of the cloudbet and sportsbet gambling sites, I'd say your review is very close if not exact with my experience on both sites. One of the biggest issues I experienced with sportsbet was about the UI and there's service outage from time to time and it's painful especially in times where I have to take a pre-match bet pretty quickly when the start time is close. I can't deny that they do have some of the most interesting Sportsbook promos I've seen on crypto Sportsbook thus far.

I recently started using stake's sportsbook. I can't say they have #1 sportsbook yet but they're constantly adding new features and new markets. I've seen people talk bad about withdrawal fees but you can skip this by using a 3rd party service and convert to an altcoin for even cheaper tx fees.

[ralle14]

One of the biggest issues I experienced with sportsbet was about the UI and there's service outage from time to time and it's painful especially in times where I have to take a pre-match bet pretty quickly when the start time is close.

I've experienced the downtimes as well but for me they're barely noticeable unless you have a pretty bad timing and always catch the maintenance schedule at the exact time.

I recently started using stake's sportsbook. I can't say they have #1 sportsbook yet but they're constantly adding new features and new markets. I've seen people talk bad about withdrawal fees but you can skip this by using a 3rd party service and convert to an altcoin for even cheaper tx fees.

Another good thing about stake is their continuous promotions, they always put out new promos whenever the current one ends. The withdrawal fees used to be high but they've slowly toned it down to a reasonable level.

[rodskee]

The crypto sportsbook game looks to now be dominated by three clearly superior sites; Cloudbet, Stake or Sportsbet. There are other good sportsbooks around, but these three are on another level in terms of promotions, usability, customer service etc.

But which of the three do you prefer and use yourself? Or is there another sportsbook you prefer?

The biggest problem arising with the big boys is the slow creep of KYC and other regulations. The lack of these regulations is obviously a huge positive of crypto gambling in general so is the detriment of these sportsbooks to lose that.

I did write this to show the differences between the three - https://bitedge.com/blog/cloudbet-stake-and-sportsbet-are-lightyears-ahead-of-the-rest/

If you're struggling to pick give it a read and it may offer some clarity.

I have no reason to choose between them all because i use all of those including Playbetr site and yeah they are amazing and worth trusting.

you made a Good Blog but it is an obvious promotion for your site because these 3 are incomparable and no need to put barricades between them,
i also believe that most of us who use sportsbetting site are not staying in one of them instead using them all depend on our mood and preferences that day.