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April 21, 2021, 05:23:40 PM Last edit: April 22, 2021, 07:17:58 AM by Jaycee99 |
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I have been scammed it was 4 or 5 years by an altcoin paying company and I got some idea on how to identify it but I don't know or it is good to use it this year 2021
I have worked with this company doing a video explaining how to buy. So I got paid and it's my first time so I am a noob back then, I got paid in altcoin and later did not receive it.
My first option is to research everything and last is my first idea when joining a campaign paying in altcoin I pm the head and just ASK like job hunting.
I will say I do this like I do video Blah blah... conversation started and later ask what will you pay me? And if they said bitcoin I already got the idea okay 99% this is not a scam
If they tell you is it is altcoin I will properly end the conversation by saying I only accept bitcoin if they said altcoin there I will carefully end the conversation and not join the campaign that pays an altcoin.
Main Questions:
1. Today how will you identify if it's a scam? (just put or reply what you know I just want to know if the majority do the same or different ways to identify)
2. Did you got scammed? What are the points you noticed that it is a scam?
3. If you have experienced the same with me share it, please?
First, no judging around thanks, about this I should already know I would like to say that I start going back last year in November and a little serious in December and got fully back to it this January.
I hope you got the point that My memory in the knowledge is slowly going back and gain more (and if some of you would say "To slow its April you should be back at it right now" I am kinda sorry I am not that genius and good at multi-tasking so partly I needed to work on college life)
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April 21, 2021, 05:58:09 PM |
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1. Today how will you Identify of its a scam? (just put or reply what you know I just want to know if the majority do the e same or different ways to identify scam?
It's pretty easy to identify scam when one has adequate knowledge of cryptoccurency, for newcomers there's a rule of thumb that "anything that looks too good to actually be true, is a scam", and to a very large extent, that axiom is pretty correct and a possible way to identify and ignore scam; but then again as one advance in the crypto ecosystem, it's expected that your knowledge increases as well, you learn the security protocols, what are the distinct modus operandi of the scammers etc, that's the general way to identify scam, for example, when your knowledgeable, if you see things like 'btc giveaway', you know straight away that it's a scam and you also wouldn't give out your seed phrase/private keys if scammers ask for it, nor will you deposit into an exchange that you know little or nothing about, making it impossible for scammers to lock your funds in it, etc, with crypto knowledge you'll identify scam and not fall for it. ...I will say I do this like I do video Blah blah... conversation started and later ask what will you pay me? And if they said bitcoin I already got the idea okay 99% this is not a scam
The promise to be paid in Bitcoin is insufficient to assert that it's not a scam, a campaign/company could promise to pay in Bitcoin, and yet default, after you must have concluded your research, it's now basically down to how reputable you think the company and the person or people handling the campaign is/are, and not just the medium of payment.
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April 21, 2021, 07:29:28 PM |
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I haven't been in altcoin campaign for a long time already, maybe 4 or 5 years. Last time when I joined altcoin paying campaign, it was before ICO era. So, I've been just in few altcoin campaigns during all these years, so, fortunately, I don't have much experience with scam campaigns. I always got paid, though once I got pretty much worthless coins because project wasn't very serious. Personally, I think that before joining altcoin campaign you should make same research like before investing into that project. Yeah, it requires time and efforts, but it's better than get scammed. But I don't have enough time for it. Few years ago when I wasn't in Bitcoin paying campaign, I didn't looked at altcoin campaigns and bounties. I waited until I got spot in other Bitcoin paying campaign, rather than taking risk and joining altcoin campaign.
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April 21, 2021, 08:07:21 PM |
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Even if it's not a deliberate scam, those altcoins might just fall flat after going public and then you will not get what you invested in it. But with altcoin campaigns, it's more like you want to collect as many as possible to see if one or two of them will turn out to be valuable, you need to go full altcoin or don't even bother because if you do it just a couple of time, you will not get much in return.
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April 22, 2021, 05:47:05 AM |
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1. Today how will you Identify of its a scam?
As I can see, Ethereum based project and any other projects under Binance power blockchain are still subjected to these parameters[1] for you to determine which projects are scam. Though you might consider them as garbage, there are still some other people who are really investing their money for short term gains -- I guess that's only because we're in a middle of a bullrun where project can easily triple their value in a short time. But then, I am certain that these project won't last any longer.
[1] 🌍 Guidelines, how to spot a scam ICO & report effectively. ✔
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April 22, 2021, 10:07:51 AM |
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I have been into altcoin campaigns before and unfortunately there are really scams projects. I'm not sure but maybe half of my social campaigns that participated before didn't pay me or become a useless project and turn out to be scam.
I still looking for good campaigns but not at the moment. Well I just accept it. Cause joining campaign is also a risk we must if we want to earn some valuable tokens that can be monetize.
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April 22, 2021, 10:17:42 AM |
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I've been in altcoins campaign before and most of them are legit and give us the token, if you are joining altcoin campaigns its really a gamble, because as we know those campaigns are also trying to get investors and partners during the campaign period, there are campaigns on the other hand who are advertising to get more community attention, what I'm saying is buy joining a campaign in the altcoins are like gambling you don't know if it's going to be successful or going to fail, also try to search what kind of campaign you want to join, so that you will not be disappointed if they won't push through or launch.
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April 22, 2021, 11:02:20 AM |
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Joining an Altcoin campaign includes several risks, the most prominent of which are:
- You bear the loss, and if token/coin value drops, you will work for free. - The campaign is running its business with zero or little expenses, which is a negative sign that they do not want to pay money to develop their marketing campaign. - The development team may freeze the tokens in your wallet. - you will get scammed.
Therefore, unless you think that token has a future, they have good CM and you think that the developed team is working to make it stronger, then you are wasting your time by joining such campaigns.
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April 22, 2021, 01:50:02 PM |
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Main Questions:
1. Today how will you identify if it's a scam? (just put or reply what you know I just want to know if the majority do the same or different ways to identify)
Its hard to identify scams actually right now since most of them have good written whitepaper so if you are plannimh to join on camps better accept the possibilities that you wont get any payments for your efforts. 2. Did you got scammed? What are the points you noticed that it is a scam?
Yes before, they stop communicating to their bounty participants after they end the campaign. 3. If you have experienced the same with me share it, please?
We experience the same especially on year 2018 thats why I stop joining on altcoin camps since its not worth the effort since most of them are not paying.
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April 22, 2021, 03:50:36 PM |
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Years had passed I stopped participating in the altcoins campaign because I have been always joined an exit scam altcoin campaign. It's really hard to determine at the start but when it is listed and failure from its developments, it seems most likely an exit scam.
Actually, ninety percent of the altcoins from the start aren’t scams and it's easy to determine. You can join their campaign, they have tokens with them which they can use for compensation. They have a project which most people will find promising.
However, once the campaign has been done, that is where the reality hits, and 99% of alt-coins are failing. Funding is actually made by them to create hype or no funding at all. So if you are an unfortunate member of the campaign and I would only say sorry.
It might the best thing I could suggest today is to join campaigns that would partially pay you Bitcoin, on that way even if their coin went down, you still have your take away that would possibly grow if you keep it.
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April 22, 2021, 04:06:16 PM |
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1. Today how will you identify if it's a scam? (just put or reply what you know I just want to know if the majority do the same or different ways to identify)
I really love your technic to identify a real project. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But did you really got any job there? What happen when they agreed to pay in bitcoin? 2. Did you got scammed? What are the points you noticed that it is a scam? It was a common scenario during 2018-2019 and later I keep me away from joining in bounty campaign. 3. If you have experienced the same with me share it, please Generically I when I do research about any company is legit or scam, I try to read the website carefully, their team member real or fake, their whitepaper, and there promotion how they actually promoting them and how hard works they do. And yes most of the time when a project marketing with bitcoin instead of their own token, there is very high chance to be the project is real.
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April 23, 2021, 02:55:44 AM |
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I do not mind if bounty is paying with their tokens as long as they are serious about project. If it lasts long you will reap the rewards.
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Some things I will look at one project. - Website: if a website is poorly designed in format, graphics, it sheds a light that the project can be not good. - White paper: if a whitepaper is written too bad, with too grammar mistakes or bad ideas for a project, it can be a bad project. Worse if I can find plagiarism with Google or other search engines. - The genesis block: to find premined coins, pre-minted coins for developers. - First few blocks: to find movements of big coins or tokens that are own by developers - Activities on Github account. - More.
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Jaycee99 (OP)
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April 25, 2021, 01:46:29 AM |
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1. Today how will you identify if it's a scam? (just put or reply what you know I just want to know if the majority do the same or different ways to identify)
I really love your technic to identify a real project. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) But did you really got any job there? What happen when they agreed to pay in bitcoin? Yes I really did they gave their token/altcoin but its worth was nothing when they left the project un-noticed or something. I wish I can give you proof but I deleted our conversation cause you know I am one of those people who gets a little mad if I see something in the past about me getting scammed. 2. Did you got scammed? What are the points you noticed that it is a scam? It was a common scenario during 2018-2019 and later I keep me away from joining in bounty campaign. 3. If you have experienced the same with me share it, please Generically I when I do research about any company is legit or scam, I try to read the website carefully, their team member real or fake, their whitepaper, and there promotion how they actually promoting them and how hard works they do. And yes most of the time when a project marketing with bitcoin instead of their own token, there is very high chance to be the project is real. That is what I and mostly do and we do but like others said their website and White paper is written nicely just to scam us.
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April 26, 2021, 07:19:02 AM |
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In my year of joining bounties, I somehow understand that it's hard to find a really profitable campaign with altcoins. I tried to join even with managers having a high rank up to even Legendaries but still some of the paid coins were scam. For me, all I do to spot a scam project and to look up for its developers. Do my own research on what are their plans and how could they do it. Look for possible silver linings of scamming like copy-pasted whitepaper/websites. I also lookout for Scams and accusations thread for possible information about the bounty campaign.
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April 26, 2021, 11:09:37 AM |
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So I got paid and it's my first time so I am a noob back then, I got paid in altcoin and later did not receive it. You either got paid or you didn't, it can't be both. You were probably trying to say they promised to pay you but they didn't. I will say I do this like I do video Blah blah... conversation started and later ask what will you pay me? And if they said bitcoin I already got the idea okay 99% this is not a scam
If they tell you is it is altcoin I will properly end the conversation by saying I only accept bitcoin if they said altcoin there I will carefully end the conversation and not join the campaign that pays an altcoin. You are making the wrong assumption linking payments in bitcoin to trust. It's not bitcoin that makes people trustworthy. People were trustworthy long before 2009. Offering payments in altcoins does not mean someone is trying to scam you. One should be wary whether the coin being offered is listed and has liquidity on exchanges. If it it is, it's up to you to determine if you want to accept that or not. The problem with the bounty hunters in this community is that many of them are willing to be paid with thin air. If they rejected non-listed tokens, legit projects would either pay in bitcoin or some other established coin, or seek other ways to advertise. If you get offered Pmalek tokens for doing a bounty and you accept it, were you scammed if the token can't be sold or did you accept something that has no value? I have accepted various alts and stablecoins plenty of times in the past. Especially when bitcoin goes crazy and requires significant network fees. I only see that as an opportunity to extend my portfolio and have additional assets that I can exchange for Bitcoin when the opportunity arises.
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April 26, 2021, 01:17:57 PM |
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It is not easy to find scam projects these days as they have proper setup to fool people and you won't come to know that it was scam until you have been victim of it.Some of the main things to look for while joining a campaign on this forum are:
-Verify the project team behind and their past working with different projects and their success rate. -Who is the manager who is the head of campaign and his trust rating -Read the white paper and ANN thread of the project and try to find out any deficiency in their working -Try visiting their site and read all their Reviews and find whether they are genuine or some paid Reviews. -Whether they have fund balance or Raised funds open to public or they are hiding their balance sheets from public.
I have been also a victim of scam projects in 2017 crash when ICO's were in full rush and I also joined some twitter bounty campaign and later when the payments were due their was no response from the team or the coin dumped in the market instantly after listing and I lost my huge portion of funds in that period.But on the other hand it gave me some experience for my future working and increased my knowledge of how to deal with scams and stay away from them.
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