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Earlier today people are blaming the country political parties for pressing ahead with crowded campaign rallies for state elections. India daily case members began rising at the end of February after falling steadily from mid- September 2020. At the same time, India political parties have been campaigning for a series of state elections in West Bengal,Assan,keral and Tamil Nadu.
        The people say there was a spike due to election rallies, they said campaign have often involved numerous rallies with large crowds. With minimal social distancing and very little mask wearing. Political campaigners and candidate were also seen not following covid19 safety protocols. Although India election commission issued warnings about such gatherings in one of the key election battlegrounds, West Bengal state.it finally banned rallies there on 22 April after noting that many politicians weren't sticking to safety rules.
  I suggest that the politicians should be held responsible for their inept behavior , citizens should work with the government, follow covid19 measures and stay safe.
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April 24, 2021, 01:02:29 PM
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Some role is on the politicians, as always, but India is way too overly populated for any government to actually handle COVID without sacrificing too many deaths. Poor education, extreme poverty, densely packed population, and a poor healthcare system. Is anyone surprised at the outcome?
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April 24, 2021, 01:42:45 PM
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Everything aplies to the current ruling party as well who are being as government right now? They are blaming the politicians then the government is the main reason for the spike.

And another news is the oxygen outage in that country which is taking many live even WHO talked about it and other countries should not do the things what India did when the cases were completely resolved after the first wave.









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April 24, 2021, 07:30:58 PM
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 I suggest that the politicians should be held responsible for their inept behavior , citizens should work with the government, follow covid19 measures and stay safe.
This is where the problem comes, who holds whom?
The citizens are the subjects while, the governments are the politicians and they are the reason for the spikes, they own the armed forces so, who holds whom? It becomes really difficult to stand accused of a rally when its allowed and a warning of strict adherence to Covid-19 principle was issued by these politicians.

It becomes a case of the citizens themselves not being law abiding and ti some extent puts the petitions out of the line on the blames even though, they are the reason for the gatherings. So, it all goes down to citizens not following Covid-19 principles.
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     The thing that must be done is to think of better ways to counter this problem rather than pointing fingers because this can do nothing to better the situation in India in any way. Doing this is just childish and insignificant. Specially when part of the blame goes to the citizens themselves. While the ones at fault or the ones who failed to fulfill their duties towards the public should be punished, I believe that this can wait till the situation gets better and controlled. Would be nive if we all just donate and help that indian guy who is actually doing something to help by starting a campaign in twitter that invites all crypto enthusiasts all over the world to help rather than helping spread hate.

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April 24, 2021, 11:05:20 PM
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Controlling Covid in India is easier than ever, now. Simply add mega-doses of thiamine (B1) to their diet, and Covid will go away - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56847746#msg56847746. And 'YES' point fingers. India scientists and medical people probably knew this all along.

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Controlling Covid in India is easier than ever, now. Simply add mega-doses of thiamine (B1) to their diet, and Covid will go away - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56847746#msg56847746. And 'YES' point fingers. India scientists and medical people probably knew this all along.

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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure?
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Controlling Covid in India is easier than ever, now. Simply add mega-doses of thiamine (B1) to their diet, and Covid will go away - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56847746#msg56847746. And 'YES' point fingers. India scientists and medical people probably knew this all along.

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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure?

For one who spells out HCQ so well, and then talks about magic pixie dust, it's kinda obvious that you aren't into Covid cures much. If you were, you'd realize that there are many Covid cures that work well.

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Earlier today people are blaming the country political parties for pressing ahead with crowded campaign rallies for state elections. India daily case members began rising at the end of February after falling steadily from mid- September 2020. At the same time, India political parties have been campaigning for a series of state elections in West Bengal,Assan,keral and Tamil Nadu.~

If the elections campaigns were responsible for this big spike, then why Maharashtra remains as the worst affected state with one-fourth of the daily cases and one-third of the daily deaths? No election campaign is going on there. The second worst affected state is Delhi, and once again there are no election rallies going on there. The slow pace of vaccination is responsible for the spike in India. Initially the vaccination campaign was going on at a good pace, but they were forced to scale down after the US administration placed an embargo on the export of raw materials needed for vaccine production.
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Earlier today people are blaming the country political parties for pressing ahead with crowded campaign rallies for state elections. India daily case members began rising at the end of February after falling steadily from mid- September 2020. At the same time, India political parties have been campaigning for a series of state elections in West Bengal,Assan,keral and Tamil Nadu.~

If the elections campaigns were responsible for this big spike, then why Maharashtra remains as the worst affected state with one-fourth of the daily cases and one-third of the daily deaths? No election campaign is going on there. The second worst affected state is Delhi, and once again there are no election rallies going on there. The slow pace of vaccination is responsible for the spike in India. Initially the vaccination campaign was going on at a good pace, but they were forced to scale down after the US administration placed an embargo on the export of raw materials needed for vaccine production.

What they need is to elect someone with a political will that will enforce everyone to stay at home because vaccines are not very effective, after 6 months you'll once again have to be vaccinated. Seem not really an effective vaccine.

It won't help still until they lock down every city they have and every village to trace each covid patient and secure them so they won't be infecting everyone else they encounter. How else did the other country did it but constantly watching every patient for them to no infect others.






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What they need is to elect someone with a political will that will enforce everyone to stay at home because vaccines are not very effective, after 6 months you'll once again have to be vaccinated. Seem not really an effective vaccine.

It won't help still until they lock down every city they have and every village to trace each covid patient and secure them so they won't be infecting everyone else they encounter. How else did the other country did it but constantly watching every patient for them to no infect others.

Your suggestions are not practical. For how long everyone needs to stay at home? One year ago, India tried with complete lockdown, which lasted for 7 weeks (42 days). The impact of that lockdown is still visible in the form of economic contraction. And regarding the third booster dose of the vaccine, almost all the vaccine manufacturers have now made it clear that it may be mandatory. And from what I have heard, the booster dose needs to be taken 12 months after the second dose (not 6 months as you have posted).

And I am not sure how you are suggesting to trace down all the CoVID 19 patients. India is reporting close to 350,000 new patients every day. The real number may be >1,000,000. How you are proposing to trace down and isolate all these people?
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Earlier today people are blaming the country political parties for pressing ahead with crowded campaign rallies for state elections. India daily case members began rising at the end of February after falling steadily from mid- September 2020. At the same time, India political parties have been campaigning for a series of state elections in West Bengal,Assan,keral and Tamil Nadu.
        The people say there was a spike due to election rallies, they said campaign have often involved numerous rallies with large crowds. With minimal social distancing and very little mask wearing. Political campaigners and candidate were also seen not following covid19 safety protocols. Although India election commission issued warnings about such gatherings in one of the key election battlegrounds, West Bengal state.it finally banned rallies there on 22 April after noting that many politicians weren't sticking to safety rules.
  I suggest that the politicians should be held responsible for their inept behavior , citizens should work with the government, follow covid19 measures and stay safe.

The corona number from India are alarming. There is no real end in sight with the large number of infected people. Looking at the daily new cases it is devastating. The biggest problem in India is that too many people live in one house. If one member of a family is infected than it is very likely that everybody is catching the corona virus. There is just no space to self isolate yourself. And the global vaccine production is not even close to help a country like India.
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Earlier today people are blaming the country political parties for pressing ahead with crowded campaign rallies for state elections. India daily case members began rising at the end of February after falling steadily from mid- September 2020. At the same time, India political parties have been campaigning for a series of state elections in West Bengal,Assan,keral and Tamil Nadu.
        The people say there was a spike due to election rallies, they said campaign have often involved numerous rallies with large crowds. With minimal social distancing and very little mask wearing. Political campaigners and candidate were also seen not following covid19 safety protocols. Although India election commission issued warnings about such gatherings in one of the key election battlegrounds, West Bengal state.it finally banned rallies there on 22 April after noting that many politicians weren't sticking to safety rules.
  I suggest that the politicians should be held responsible for their inept behavior , citizens should work with the government, follow covid19 measures and stay safe.

The corona number from India are alarming. There is no real end in sight with the large number of infected people. Looking at the daily new cases it is devastating. The biggest problem in India is that too many people live in one house. If one member of a family is infected than it is very likely that everybody is catching the corona virus. There is just no space to self isolate yourself. And the global vaccine production is not even close to help a country like India.

All anybody has to do is go to this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.0 - and search through the various links that go outside the thread. Covid is nothing if you do something about it right in you own family and neighborhood.

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The Covid-19 cases in India is rising rapidly, with the country having inadequate hospital beds and oxygen. And the number keep increasing, recording more than 345,000 cases in just one day. And what surprised me most is that India is known for producing the world largest Covid-19 Vaccine. The world health organization have to help them before the situation gets more critical. I think we can reduce the number of cases, if we take Covid-19 measures.



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The Covid-19 cases in India is rising rapidly, with the country having inadequate hospital beds and oxygen. And the number keep increasing, recording more than 345,000 cases in just one day. And what surprised me most is that India is known for producing the world largest Covid-19 Vaccine. The world health organization have to help them before the situation gets more critical. I think we can reduce the number of cases, if we take Covid-19 measures.

India has a population of 1.4 billion, which is growing at a rate of 2% per year. This is the root cause of most of the social issues in India (such as unemployment, poverty, lack of adequate medical care.etc). During this time also, the situation is no different. States where the population growth is low (such as Kerala and Tamil Nadu), there are enough facilities available for everyone. On the other hand, states with high population growth are suffering not just from the shortage of medical facilities, but also from the shortage of skilled medical staff.
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The Covid-19 cases in India is rising rapidly, with the country having inadequate hospital beds and oxygen. And the number keep increasing, recording more than 345,000 cases in just one day. And what surprised me most is that India is known for producing the world largest Covid-19 Vaccine. The world health organization have to help them before the situation gets more critical. I think we can reduce the number of cases, if we take Covid-19 measures.

India has a population of 1.4 billion, which is growing at a rate of 2% per year. This is the root cause of most of the social issues in India (such as unemployment, poverty, lack of adequate medical care.etc). During this time also, the situation is no different. States where the population growth is low (such as Kerala and Tamil Nadu), there are enough facilities available for everyone. On the other hand, states with high population growth are suffering not just from the shortage of medical facilities, but also from the shortage of skilled medical staff.

I don't know where you get this argument, which sounds Malthusian. Can you back it up with some links? The world population has not stopped growing and people are living longer and better. I understand that the problem is not so much population growth but that they are a poor country to begin with.

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I don't know where you get this argument, which sounds Malthusian. Can you back it up with some links? The world population has not stopped growing and people are living longer and better. I understand that the problem is not so much population growth but that they are a poor country to begin with.

What are the reasons for poverty? At least in the case of India, the main reason for poverty is that there are not enough natural resources for the huge population. Only around 1 million sq.km of arable land exists in India, and there are some 800 million plus people who are dependent on farming. That translates to less than one acre of farmland per farmer. Ideally the governments should encourage some of these farmers to move towards blue-collar or even white-collar jobs, but the farming lobby has put so many obstacles. Farming income (without any upper threshold) is 100% exempted from income tax, while blue-collar jobs are heavily taxed. Within India, the highest living standards are observed in the state of Kerala, where the fertility rate is 1.8 children per woman. On the other hand, the poorest state is Bihar, where the fertility rate is 4.0 children per woman. 
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really concerned about the current condition of India...
with a lack of oxygen supply and also a lack of hospital facilities, many Indians are trying to get out of their country, even many have fled to my country. btw, I read that the US is already planning to help India by sending vaccines from the US, I don't know if this will help but hopefully, the worries that occur in India subside.



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April 27, 2021, 03:47:39 PM
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Controlling Covid in India is easier than ever, now. Simply add mega-doses of thiamine (B1) to their diet, and Covid will go away - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56847746#msg56847746. And 'YES' point fingers. India scientists and medical people probably knew this all along.

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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine supposed to be the magic pixie dust cure?

For one who spells out HCQ so well, and then talks about magic pixie dust, it's kinda obvious that you aren't into Covid cures much. If you were, you'd realize that there are many Covid cures that work well.

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I'm interested in Covid cures that actually work. Perhaps the only thing close to an actual Covid cure, oppose to vaccines (which really are preventative, not cures) maybe might be vitamin D supplements to support a health immune system. No direct evidence to suggest that vitamin D has an effect on severity of a Covid infection, but generally the theory is that vitamin D support a healthy immune system, and a healthy immune system decreases your chance of death due to Covid.

This is, of course, why elderly people are more at risk from Covid than a healthy young 20 year old.
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April 27, 2021, 05:53:28 PM
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vitamin D is not a cure
people living in places with better sunlight than US/UK still get sick

yes a vitamin D deficiency means it can make your immune system deficient. but its not the only thing
the amount of people with difficient immune systems vs those deficient immune due to vitD is small
people without vitd deficiency dont need vitD
people that dont need vit D can stil get covid..

thats reality. thats fact. thats logic.

if vitD was a cure they would have used it last february
why would they have used it last february you ask...

well because all infections need the use of a immune system to fight it.
all throughout history
decades of infections and stuff and its found even with pople without vitd deficiency still get sick
its not new. its standard logic

so if the vitD deficiency was the only cause of illness they would have dealt with it long ago
every infectious ailment would be iradicated.
and no one having supplements would ever of got sick
but thats not reality.

but here is the thing those with healthy immune. those taking daily supplements those with good sun exposure STILL GET SICK
thats reality

if you are immune deficient purely due to vid D deficiency then yes boost your vitD but dont think it is your immortal pill/cure

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