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April 24, 2021, 12:30:26 PM
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Building the ultimate  18 GPU mining rig with the following :

1 - 18 GPU Nvidia RTX 3090 at 120 MH/S  at 300 Watt :  https://ebay.us/QrDNQp
2 - 19 GPU Frame : https://ebay.us/sYDePL
     got 18 extra fan for extra cooling , Motherboard start , restart buttons ,
     have isolated  Mounting for the 18 GPU , Motherboard ,Power supply and the HD with earthing protection ,
     have a good space between every GPU
3 - 18 GPU Mother board : MSI B360-F Pro Expert Mining : https://ebay.us/ti35du
    support PCIe Gen 3 on all if its slots that can run RTX 3090 and 6900 XT together
    with  intel processor  Celeron G4900T Dual Core  : https://ebay.us/LIwag0
    8 GB ram : https://ebay.us/rRYJCr
    120 GB SSD : https://ebay.us/bpuevQ
4-  Power Supply Evega 1600 Watts 4 units to support the 18 GPU : https://ebay.us/2PH08V
     4 power supplies will support the 18 gpu at 290 watts for each gpu = 5300 watts  , that needs 2 extension cords with 3500 wats rating
     will need 12 extra long cables for the upper rack of gpus  : https://ebay.us/xDmxQC
     each gpu will take 3X 8bin cable
    Multi Power supply Connector to connect the 4 PSUs : https://ebay.us/FXMslo
5 - 18 powered PCIe Riser with solid capacitors and usb3 not sata type : https://ebay.us/oVahAR
6 - screen , mouse , Keyboard .
7 - windows 10 with Nvidia driver
8 - mining software like https://www.nicehash.com/?refby=a194aefb-325d-4cb1-9234-a3c5fb01070f

is there anything missing i should add  ?
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April 24, 2021, 02:28:10 PM
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Your Math is way off on power.  You have to calculate GPU TDP (350w) not what you think you can down clock them to.  Also 80% rule for the PSU's would be around 1300w, but i've ran my evga 1600w P2's at 1500w for over 3years without any issues. 

You are going to have a better time if you split into two separate rigs, but if you are doing it for fun than good luck.
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April 24, 2021, 03:53:05 PM
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@BioMoh

You really made my day. Couldnt stop to read this over and over again.
Come on, send us pics of what you have so far.

Am i right you have the 18 Fans so far?

Whats your ETH Mining adress? I send you some hash for free.

Cant stop laughing.

sorry
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April 24, 2021, 04:21:45 PM
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I don't know if you are true about this mining rig, but I'll trust you

If you're already know what are you doing and have experience with mining rigs, ok, go ahead, but if this is your first one, and I think it it's, because you're asking here first, I'll suggest you to split this rig into at least 3 rigs

It's pretty hard to keep rigs running 24/7 with 6 or 7+ cards, even the Nvidia ones, which is easier than AMDs

If this rig have 1 card with some issue with overclock, riser, power etc, your entire rig will probably stop and you'll have to turn off the entire rig to fix, you'll have 2160Mhs offline.

With 3 rigs for example, if you have any problem with a rig, you'll have 2 running and can fix the problematic one, and trust me, with 18 cards you'll have some work to do


I would split into 3 rigs of 6 cards, running with HiveOS, easy to deploy and keep running for 24/7, easier to deal with heat, cables and power

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April 24, 2021, 04:54:57 PM
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why not buy a big SSD disk so you can have ethereum blockchain?
you can work solo mining.

Software is like sex. it's better when it's free.
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April 24, 2021, 05:14:06 PM
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why not buy a big SSD disk so you can have ethereum blockchain?
you can work solo mining.

With 18 RTX 3090s you'll get 2160 Mhs
It's not enough to solo mining, of course you can try, but it's lottery

Here you can estimate, just estimate a little: https://2cryptocalc.com/eth-mining-calculator?hashrate=2160

With 2160mhs you can have 1 block per month, but remember, it's not guaranteed

I would only try solo mining if I have at least 2Ghs, the total hashrate of ETH network is 539,129.7506 GH/s right now, according to https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate


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April 24, 2021, 08:13:45 PM
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Good oven for drying shoes and socks Smiley
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7 - windows 10 with Nvidia driver

windows 10 has a software limit for a certain number of video cards. I kind of saw a farm with 13 video cards, but there were 8 nvidia video cards and 7 AMD video cards.
For such farms, it is better to use Linux OS


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Max # of PCI Express Lanes 16
Your processor will not be able to work with 18 graphics cards


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April 25, 2021, 03:36:31 AM
Last edit: April 25, 2021, 03:58:08 AM by Wotan Wipeout
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This whole project is dubious. I would trust it if any of you professionells would go for it - ok.
But to buy (if possible) 3090 for this amount of money just for "the fun" is just absurd.

The Hash / price ratio doesnt make sense.
The Hash / watt ratio doesnt make sense.
The density doesnt make sense.
The amount of GPUs in windows doesnt make sense, i assume its just impossible.
Trying to build a 18 GPU rig with 1060 6GB cards i would say - go for it - for the fun.
But 3090? In the time to solve lots of problems an easy 6 GPU rig would get a good amount of money.
My 4 x 3080 needs 1 corsair ax 1500i, running at 1kw from the wall. Thats barely enough to go for
other algos like mtp and others when the 3080 get really powerhungry. I wouldnt go for power supply
under 6500 Watt. But we could talk about this.

The EVGA 1600 has got
1x 20/​24-Pin, 2x 4/​8-Pin ATX12V, 9x 6/​8-Pin PCIe, 5x 6-Pin PCIe, 16x SATA, 6x IDE, 2x Floppy

And 18 x 3 = 54 8-Pin PCIe needed. To run 4 x 3080 i ordered custom cables with custom length
(from shakmods - thats the quality we talk about for this amount of moeny - greetings to UK). Lets talk about 54 8-Pin.....

But asking if he has forgotten something for a price of 18 x 3090 is just.....

The only point i see would be a youtube video how to - if possible - make this. But only a professional,
having 18 x 3090 would try.

I wait for the first pictures of 18 x 3090.
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April 25, 2021, 04:25:35 AM
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lol at this thread, this must be a prank, 18 x 3090 must be divided in 6 rigs, each rig --> 3 x 3090, check that motherboard, only one psu can be put, you will need a 1200 watts psu minimum for 3 x 3090 and any psu higher than 1200 watts would be recommended, 1300 watts would be ideal for 3 x 3090, , not joking, so you need 6 x tier 1 psu 1200 watts for this project.

This psu would be ideal for 3 x 3090 https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=120-g2-1300-xr

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April 25, 2021, 06:47:41 AM
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@Metroid

Atm i am sold out on 2600 Watt Mining power supplies. Have some more incomming. 3 of these could run it.
But anyway, its pointless.
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April 25, 2021, 07:24:25 AM
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@Metroid

Atm i am sold out on 2600 Watt Mining power supplies. Have some more incomming. 3 of these could run it.
But anyway, its pointless.

Talking about this one? https://www.amazon.com/2600W-Supply-Compatible-BITMAIN-Antminer/dp/B08RHXSMMP

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April 25, 2021, 09:58:20 AM
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Wow 18 pieces of 3090  Grin
Price?
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April 25, 2021, 10:33:19 AM
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No, normal power supplies. 95 Plus Gold. 16 x 8 Pin.
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April 25, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
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OP tell me you get all those GPUs at MSRP, cos that's the only way all this will make sense, Ethereum mining will be less profitable soon and new Asic miners are in work, eip1559 is also coming so buying GPUs at high price is 💢💢💢💢

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Good luck OP with procuring 3090's Roll Eyes. Great cards that love fujipoly and extra backplate heatsinks. 3080 would be a better idea, at msrp or not. My 3090s won't go above 123.7. Try and stay tuned for July, unless mining something besides ETH.
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April 26, 2021, 06:36:13 AM
Last edit: April 27, 2021, 02:32:47 PM by mprep
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Building the ultimate  18 GPU mining rig with the following :

1 - 18 GPU Nvidia RTX 3090 at 120 MH/S  at 300 Watt :  https://ebay.us/QrDNQp
fby=a194aefb-325d-4cb1-9234-a3c5fb01070f

is there anything missing i should add  ?


Well this ebay link doesn't exist, if you could find a rtx-3090 in todays market for a real non-used card, it would be $10k, maybe more, you must wait for price to drop back down below $1k

I run this RTX at about 120watts, above that the heat goes above 72C, and I don't run my cards hot ( kills them ), maybe see about 100MHS, that's a  whopping ETH $10/day on $2/day power, payback at today price, longer than the life of the card.

Like the people here say, I would do a 1200W gold power supply, and each have 4 cards;

U really need to propose your budget, rather than your wishlist. Then people would tell you what you could buy in todays market, rather than what you would like to have

Most mobo's only support six gpu's, is a limitation in linux; mobos are cheap; also if you use 8 gpu racks, you can space out your cards so they can ventilate

In the winter no problem, run at 180W, turn up the clock, if you are intending to run at 300W, do you have central air-con, or are you in the north-pole?

Have you actually done this before? GPU mine?

Why not start with a single GTX-1060 6gb, and learn, and then scale up and see what actually works.

If you haven't mined before, understand that you must take everything apart every 3 months and clean the cards down to the raw boards, I don't care where you operate they collect dust&goo, and in time they short themselves out, unless cleaned. Which why you don't want 18 cards on a dense rack, maintenance is impossible, wiring nightmare, beyond the problem that it will not work.

Like the guys here say, with 3 rigs when you working on one card, you still would have 12 running, with your strategy having a problem with once card and your out of biz. But like I said, these cards are so damn expensive, and everything else is so cheap, I would do 4 cards per rig, and space them cards out for cooling.

IMHO this post is BS, as the RTX-3090's in new condition are not available anywhere on earth.

I run RTX-3070's rigs, got them cheap last year, see about 51MHS, I run six cards per rig, and keep them cool right now, I limit to 115 watts. Like I said above 72c ontinuous the cards always die, I'm seeing about 310MHS, but they run cool and strong. I clean them every six months, which means complete disassembly, and cleaning, and new thermal grease.

I even run air-purifiers in my mining rooms, and I still see about 10% death rate of cards annually, most are newer cards. Better have a solder re-work station on on-hand small caps and voltage-regulators like to pop, when the cards get about 74C.

Expensive hobby, only argument is your not buying crypto from an exchange your mining your own 100% privacy, other than that total waste of time & money. Think about heat dissapation in the summer, 18 rtx-3090's at 300W, that's enough power to run an industrial over to melt gold. Where in the hell are you going to dissipate all that heat? Air-Con?

Let's see, your cards will cost you $180k, have you really thought about how many decades your ROI will be??

I think most people that own cards already are on hold, until the prices come back to earth, now its appearing to be years, which means these RTX-3090's will even become more expensive.

Lastly, if you can't repair your cards, you really shouldn't buy them.

Yes, like the guy here say's the future of ETH mining is going to be over before the GPUS become available.

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On a side note, RTX-3070's can hack 2500M/keys/sec, running with a 64gb bloom-filter of 300M addresses, I can do 100T/keys/sec on each card, so my RTX rigs actually hack bitcoin, better than minning ETH, but this is just an example of how these RTX cards can be re-deployed in the future post ETH mining; The payback is one high-value address per card 1,000 days, on paper, but they do better.

The probelm with all GPU mining is that the CHINESE have boxes now that kill these cards, they have ASIC's with 10gb that can attack any crypto-algo on the planet; This is what happened to EQUI-HASH mining it was killed by Chinese mining boxes, and soon Eth will be toast, E-15, Z-15, ...



Building the ultimate  18 GPU mining rig with the following :


7 - windows 10 with Nvidia driver
8 - mining software like https://www.nicehash.com/?refby=a194aefb-325d-4cb1-9234-a3c5fb01070f

is there anything missing i should add  ?


These last two are the jokes to end all jokes, now I know this post is 100% bull.

Nobody runs windows

Nicehash, are you joking, they don't even let you mine to your own private key, they keep your mining winnings in their address, and they let you spend your money at their company store, nicehash is the biggest ripoff on the crypto planet.

Now I know for a fact you have never mined anything.

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