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April 27, 2021, 03:18:35 AM
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With CPU mining being not too terrible, I was interested in building a little under 30 watt system for the lighter CPU algos.
XMRig supports aes on some ARMs already, and I believe there are Android ARM miners as well which is a fun easy idea.

Does anyone have experience with this?
I feel like grabbing a couple used android phones and a large solar power bank for fun.

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April 27, 2021, 04:48:47 AM
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Mining on ARM CPUs has potential and increased interest due to the Apple M1 but there
really isn't a suitable ARM mining platform yet. SOCs need to be clustered to amount to anything
and phones have too much extra baggage that reduce their efficiency. Android mining is mostly
a scam especially if it's marketed as only for phones. If you can't mine it on an x86_64 it isn't
legitimate POW mining. You can't go wrong with xmrig.


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April 27, 2021, 05:43:49 AM
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Its possible however you probably won't make any decent profit doing this. Even if you use all the free solar power. For profitable XMR mining you need high end processors which are currently sold out. Those processors you are talking about aren't good for actual home mining, they are designed for low power cell phone use.

People for years have wanted to mine with cell phones because it would make the network more decentralized since many people have phones however the issue is that it would be very easy to cheat because someone with a GPU or FGPA can pretty much control maybe most of the network by doing so. You don't realise how slow cell phone computing power is relative to CPUs and GPUs.
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April 28, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
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Thanks for the replies!
I was looking at Nvidia's jetson agx xavier and so on, as they are in stock and, not an insane price.
A72 chips are very affordable as well, and the power ratio isn't bad.  But far from other ARMs
Though I feel you'd need optimized software to make that worth it I believe, if possible at all.
Mostly just something as a fun project, and been wanting to learn working with Linux ARM any way.

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April 29, 2021, 01:06:21 AM
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I was looking at Nvidia's jetson agx xavier and so on,

Nvidia's purchase of ARM was an interesting development and increases the chances there will
be a decent ARM desktop CPU in the future. I would expect miner development for ARM CPUs
to ramp up as well.

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May 02, 2021, 01:13:51 AM
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The External GPU enclosures + Intel NUC seem to work just like a desktop, but much more simple for a single card, and portable.
Anyone happen to have experience with them?
400 USDT NUC can make about 20 cents a day over electric for the 6+ core models, then a 5700 xt or something as well.
When it's not profitable, a nice media station or portable gaming rig.

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May 02, 2021, 02:24:15 AM
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The External GPU enclosures + Intel NUC seem to work just like a desktop, but much more simple for a single card, and portable.
Anyone happen to have experience with them?
400 USDT NUC can make about 20 cents a day over electric for the 6+ core models, then a 5700 xt or something as well.
When it's not profitable, a nice media station or portable gaming rig.

Actually I have a dell optiplex mini about 7 by 7 by 2

it would work with an external gpu case.

I will get back to this question.

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May 02, 2021, 06:49:21 AM
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ARM CPU will work but what are you trying to make here because we all know that this won't bring you any profits, the high-end CPUs are just better and more profitable, 30watt power draw is so good but what about the profit side? Isn't that the reason why we mine?
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May 02, 2021, 11:17:32 PM
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ARM CPU will work but what are you trying to make here because we all know that this won't bring you any profits, the high-end CPUs are just better and more profitable, 30watt power draw is so good but what about the profit side? Isn't that the reason why we mine?

I agree on that, however I'm just doing it as a hobby project with solar for fun.
Plus I get an excuse to buy a little mini pc.
The external GPU however can be useful especially on a loaded circuit already.
Almost 0 overhead for whatever GPU you want and can fit on a shelf without being an eyesore.

I feel there would be an easy market there for home miners.

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May 10, 2021, 07:54:36 AM
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With CPU mining being not too terrible, I was interested in building a little under 30 watt system for the lighter CPU algos.
XMRig supports aes on some ARMs already, and I believe there are Android ARM miners as well which is a fun easy idea.

Does anyone have experience with this?
I feel like grabbing a couple used android phones and a large solar power bank for fun.

Hi,
You could always have a look at this project.
I think it makes a great education device.
http://imineblocks.com/micro-miner/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjosic-Rpe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erzhnGih2bE

If you buy anything from him, please let him know i sent you there. (i'm not on commission, in fact hardly know him, but, he likes to know where his leads come from, and he seems a decent guy)

Oh, also if you google XEON PHI co-processor, and pop over to the VERUS channel on DISCORD, there are people there trying to use that co-processor for mining VERUS. I believe the cards are basically multi threaded cpus rather than gpus.... I think they are quite successful, BUT have a very heavy power draw, and need a server motherboard, but have a look, there plenty of help in discord.
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May 11, 2021, 07:25:09 PM
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With CPU mining being not too terrible, I was interested in building a little under 30 watt system for the lighter CPU algos.
XMRig supports aes on some ARMs already, and I believe there are Android ARM miners as well which is a fun easy idea.

Does anyone have experience with this?
I feel like grabbing a couple used android phones and a large solar power bank for fun.

Hi,
You could always have a look at this project.
I think it makes a great education device.
http://imineblocks.com/micro-miner/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjosic-Rpe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erzhnGih2bE

If you buy anything from him, please let him know i sent you there. (i'm not on commission, in fact hardly know him, but, he likes to know where his leads come from, and he seems a decent guy)

Oh, also if you google XEON PHI co-processor, and pop over to the VERUS channel on DISCORD, there are people there trying to use that co-processor for mining VERUS. I believe the cards are basically multi threaded cpus rather than gpus.... I think they are quite successful, BUT have a very heavy power draw, and need a server motherboard, but have a look, there plenty of help in discord.

That is super cool, I really like that project!
Thank you for sharing it.

I wonder if ARM and Chia will have any cool synergy coming up, I've seen Pi's being used as cheap, but slow, plotters and farm.

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May 12, 2021, 12:01:30 AM
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With CPU mining being not too terrible, I was interested in building a little under 30 watt system for the lighter CPU algos.
XMRig supports aes on some ARMs already, and I believe there are Android ARM miners as well which is a fun easy idea.

Does anyone have experience with this?
I feel like grabbing a couple used android phones and a large solar power bank for fun.

Hi,
You could always have a look at this project.
I think it makes a great education device.
http://imineblocks.com/micro-miner/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjosic-Rpe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erzhnGih2bE

If you buy anything from him, please let him know i sent you there. (i'm not on commission, in fact hardly know him, but, he likes to know where his leads come from, and he seems a decent guy)

Oh, also if you google XEON PHI co-processor, and pop over to the VERUS channel on DISCORD, there are people there trying to use that co-processor for mining VERUS. I believe the cards are basically multi threaded cpus rather than gpus.... I think they are quite successful, BUT have a very heavy power draw, and need a server motherboard, but have a look, there plenty of help in discord.

That is super cool, I really like that project!
Thank you for sharing it.

I wonder if ARM and Chia will have any cool synergy coming up, I've seen Pi's being used as cheap, but slow, plotters and farm.

You can use a PI for farming after doing the plotting
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