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April 27, 2021, 11:23:51 AM
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I sold a miner S9-13.5T running Awesome Miner firmware. It was tuned to run reliably at 15.6TH/s - and I had it mining at these settings for well over a year. It was configured with chain 5 at 743MHz/8.5V, chain 6 at 743MHz/8.6V and chain #7 at 725MHz/8.8V. Then individual chips were reduced in frequency from there until everything was in the "green" zone.  But this is causing my customer mining errors - seems like more chips were going into the yellow and red zones at his location. So he reduced it to like 700MHz across the board (not sure of voltage at the moment) and is trying to adjust from there. But, my question is why is this happening? My thoughts are that maybe his source voltage is less and/or Hz differences? At my location, I had constant 240-248V - pretty constant at 60Hz. So could this be the difference? He's ordering a Kill-A-What type meter now so he can monitor these things. But I can't think of why else he is having different results.

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April 27, 2021, 02:15:26 PM
Last edit: April 27, 2021, 03:06:31 PM by NotFuzzyWarm
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Most likely the miner is running in a different temperature environment. The PSU does not care about 50/60Hz though too low of a line voltage of could be an issue.

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April 27, 2021, 02:56:41 PM
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Most likely the miner is running in a different temperature environment. The PSU does not care about 50/60Hz though too low of line line voltage of could be an issue.

yeah if he is 225 volts

and you are 244 volts

the psu will work better.

i wonder if it sags to 11.5 dc

but room temp and air flow matters

so it could be a warmer space and lower voltage issue combined.

good luck.

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April 27, 2021, 04:42:09 PM
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Thanks guys - temp could be a factor - I ran these in the mid 50's (F) so nice and cool for them. My customer is running in an apartment - so probably 70 or something. So maybe a heat issue. Nothing to do about that other than back it down a bit unless he wants to cool it better. Hopefully he'll get a voltage for his main power so we can see if that may be a factor too.
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April 29, 2021, 02:36:55 PM
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S9 boards regulate internally. It's very unlikely input voltage is a factor. But given you're asking a machine that's already not the best design for cooling to run a 15% overclock it's far more likely a heat issue. The ASICs will actually draw more power as they get hot, which makes them hotter, which draws more power, and because of the string topology they all run in a sort of easily-perturbed power balance, so when overclocking, temperatures become a big factor for stability. A 10C increase in input air could make a big difference.

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May 03, 2021, 11:58:34 PM
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Why isn't he just letting it auto-tune? My experience with AM firmware (and all the derivatives of the main source of it) on an S9 is that auto-tune can do a decent job and then some hand tweaking after that can be done.

But what I have seen is that after auto-tune and hand tweak, it'll show great for many hours / days and then things will turn downhill. For what reason I'm not sure but I did have to go back in and do some more hand tuning. 

Just for comparison my 2 S9's  are running an average clock of around 713Mhz avg., 8.4x volts for 15.25 TH/S but that is with asicseer firmware, 1250-1300 watts, 240vac, ambient ambient 60 F, S9 temp. at 70 C with fans at 2400rpm.
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