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May 07, 2021, 01:04:01 PM
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It is to believe that everyone here in trading wanting to gain profit, not to lose. We might be saying that everyone does the buy low and sells high, and apparently, it was the common strategy we use but you don't wonder why not all have been profiting. Because not all traders are consistent on it. Sometimes we've been influenced by our emotions and leads to panic selling. It finds very common since not all of us can take the pressure in trading.

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May 08, 2021, 05:54:25 AM
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Obviously they all want to buy low and sell high, but no one can be sure of when to buy and sell.
In fact, we are betting on this market, trying to analyze the market and find ways to make a profit.
You don't have to bet. if you consider this bet it is a wrong thing because there are indicators that currently exist you can analyze the market to get a profit. What is clear is that if you are a trader and do not understand how to analyze the market, of course it will be detrimental because you are gambling. buy and sell without understanding how to properly analyze the market
Buy low and sell high is indeed not enough in trading, that's too plain and simple which is not the real situation in trading. Yes you can buy low or sell high but you can't know if its already the low price because you didn't analyze well the chart ,so technically this is where indicators will being used to see the future trend of the market. We all have the same goals in trading, but I don't think we are following the same strategy.
I think the low price to buy is the price in the support area, sometimes in our eyes there is some support in the market, so if we want to buy then buy it at the support support, even though it is not a guarantee to always profit, but has a great opportunity to create profit
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May 08, 2021, 05:54:41 AM
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People buy and sell to make a profit. There are many different strategies for exploiting profits and tricks in trading.
If you are new, actively learn because there are many trading methods and many markets to make money. Always be careful and find yourself a direction, a method, do not try to pursue things that you do not understand.
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May 08, 2021, 06:19:13 AM
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When we are not aware of what are the traders are doing, how we can be different from them? So, there are chances for being same like everyone will be following similar strategy and at the same time everyone might be having slightly different in terms of time frame or longer/shorter moving average tools or anything similar will be possible here.
That's impossible that some trader isn't aware that there are other traders out there. Yes they may look like different but I think that in essence they are the same.
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May 08, 2021, 10:14:50 AM
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Yeah, everyone is following same strategy. Because,
Everyone tries to buy at low and tries to sell high.
Everyone is aware of technical and fundamental analysis.
Everyone is perfect in risk and reward management.
Everyone is able to be disciplined while trading and able to follow their plans.
and also
Everyone makes mistakes due to their greediness or panic.

If you consider everyone is into same kind of practices then in common view, everyone is looking like following same kind of things. You can simply copy them or customize few of practices according to your capabilities still you will get your own level of chances to make profits.

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May 08, 2021, 11:06:22 AM
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TA = self fulfilling prophecy
everyone seeks opportunities, which looks like this:
they heared or read something, that is bullish
they heared or read something, that is bearish
they ve friends talking pos or neg.

they form an opinion weather it is time to buy or sell.
now every person has other sources, experience, emotions, friends, news.

=> At any moment in time 2 meet who have opposit opinion and thus a trade is fulfilled.
Price indicates what those 2 parties 'agreed' on.
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May 08, 2021, 01:19:19 PM
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If you consider everyone is into same kind of practices then in common view, everyone is looking like following same kind of things. You can simply copy them or customize few of practices according to your capabilities still you will get your own level of chances to make profits.
Because of everyone is following same kind of practices, we cannot consider that everyone is following same strategy. Because, strategy is something which is aiding you to make profits in trading that will definitely differ trader to trader hence assuming it is same is not making any sense even we are all tend to buy low and sell high.

I assume if we are all following same strategy then market will enter into bull trend more easily and then will enter into bear more quickly. Because of we are all following different strategies, bitcoin market is slowly entering into bull market and then slowly entering into bear markets.

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May 08, 2021, 02:12:30 PM
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About a few months ago, I learned some Japanese candlesticks for cryptocurrency trading. And there are some shapes when they happen that mean that there is a rise, ie: Buy. And some forms when they occur mean that there is a fall in the currency, ie: sell or hold. In the first case, you will buy, and if "everyone wants to profit" and everyone of course knows the rise, who is the dumb who will sell you this? In the second case, you want to sell, and also "everyone does not want to lose". Who is the dumb who would buy this from you? And with this logic, what are these shapes?

There is always something that happens naturally on a regular basis and causes regular results, but something happens based on "people's minds" (buy / sell), ie: it is erratic. So how will the results be regular (up / down)?
Traders views on candlestick patterns are different. trader A might see a bullish engulfing candle which indicates a buy signal whereas trader B might decide to sell at the zone mainly because the price is at a resistance zone where sellers might push down the price above all traders view price with a different perspective consequently when some traders are making profits as the same point in time some other traders are losing money.

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May 08, 2021, 03:11:36 PM
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People buy and sell to make a profit. There are many different strategies for exploiting profits and tricks in trading.
If you are new, actively learn because there are many trading methods and many markets to make money. Always be careful and find yourself a direction, a method, do not try to pursue things that you do not understand.
No tricks or method will work perfectly in trading as you can't guarantee that it will work for sure. If you can't understand what you're doing, don't do it as it will surely lose you money. You need to learn and improve yourself, do not be scared to lose initially as it was natural to fail at the start. After a few weeks, months, or a year, you will certainly be good at trading. It would help if you focused on it.
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May 08, 2021, 03:32:59 PM
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People buy and sell to make a profit. There are many different strategies for exploiting profits and tricks in trading.
If you are new, actively learn because there are many trading methods and many markets to make money. Always be careful and find yourself a direction, a method, do not try to pursue things that you do not understand.
I think mastering first the basic about trading is very important. Never get boring to learn about the basic of trading.  Sometimes the small details makes a huge mistake in the end. It the same strategies, and indicators but I think in traders mind it's different. Different traders have also different mindset in their heads, they have different perspective how they can get profit.

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May 08, 2021, 06:11:02 PM
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In trading, everyone expects to buy low and sells high. I believe that it is common thinking for all and we all want to gain some profit from trading. Strategy will not same except it. Other things can be different but expecting Profit from buying will be same as I believe.

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May 08, 2021, 06:18:05 PM
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In trading, everyone expects to buy low and sells high. I believe that it is common thinking for all and we all want to gain some profit from trading. Strategy will not same except it. Other things can be different but expecting Profit from buying will be same as I believe.

It is like this, I never follow anyone's instructions, before I used to follow the signals of many groups on telegram, but the success rate has not been the best in these cases, I lost a lot of money following them, the strategy of buying low and selling high is what is always sought, the case of investment is something else.
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May 08, 2021, 06:27:50 PM
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I think this has got to do with the biggest investors like institutional investors, single millionaires to billionaires against us, the middle to low level investors are just the cream layer of cake! We don't exist for long period of time. The cake's hard base is the first one I mentioned who are always there to profit from the biggest wave and not the small ups and downs. Those happen because they make it happen by loosing little share of their investment. They know very well we will invest again when the rates go down and thus market will naturally come up, give them the investment back plus the profits that they will book is always premium one. May be this is how the whole thing is running these days. In the crypto it's even easier because its decentralised and no one can cap the prices.
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May 08, 2021, 11:21:54 PM
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In trading, everyone expects to buy low and sells high. I believe that it is common thinking for all and we all want to gain some profit from trading. Strategy will not same except it. Other things can be different but expecting Profit from buying will be same as I believe.

It is like this, I never follow anyone's instructions, before I used to follow the signals of many groups on telegram, but the success rate has not been the best in these cases, I lost a lot of money following them, the strategy of buying low and selling high is what is always sought, the case of investment is something else.
We shouldnt let ourselves to be blind like that because it would really be giving out that regrettable feeling after committing those kind of mistakes.
Always follow your own way when it comes to trading and investment where you do formulate your own and its not bad to see or check others analysis as well
and would be add up into you and this is what im doing ever since.Dont close your mind or limit out the probabilities of learning something new.
As long it could help you out then that what matter most.

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In trading, everyone expects to buy low and sells high. I believe that it is common thinking for all and we all want to gain some profit from trading. Strategy will not same except it. Other things can be different but expecting Profit from buying will be same as I believe.

If the market was predictable, then everyone would get a profit and there would be no those who lose money here. But at the expense of whom will the profit be made, if no one loses money? Therefore, there will always be those who make a profit and those who lose their money on the market.

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May 09, 2021, 09:32:56 PM
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there will always be those who make a profit and those who lose their money on the market.
That must be the basic mechanism of trading but I do not think it got anything to do against the strategy that we are using should be same or not. If everyone is using a perfect strategy (do not need to be same) then who will lose to give away the money? It means, a perfect strategy today may not remain same tomorrow as well to assure profits everyday. So, there cannot be any perfect strategy with respect to market volatility.

When there cannot be any perfect strategy then how we can assume that everyone will be using same strategy? So, everyone might be following different strategy, it may be same still cannot get us profits in guaranteed way.

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May 09, 2021, 10:59:32 PM
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Obviously they all want to buy low and sell high, but no one can be sure of when to buy and sell.
In fact, we are betting on this market, trying to analyze the market and find ways to make a profit.
You don't have to bet. if you consider this bet it is a wrong thing because there are indicators that currently exist you can analyze the market to get a profit. What is clear is that if you are a trader and do not understand how to analyze the market, of course it will be detrimental because you are gambling. buy and sell without understanding how to properly analyze the market
Buy low and sell high is indeed not enough in trading, that's too plain and simple which is not the real situation in trading. Yes you can buy low or sell high but you can't know if its already the low price because you didn't analyze well the chart ,so technically this is where indicators will being used to see the future trend of the market. We all have the same goals in trading, but I don't think we are following the same strategy.
I agree. While everybody goes on about buying low and selling high there are a few people who can actually take the time to understand when the market is at a low/high to react accordingly. That said, everybody hopes that their strategy works but in reality most are guessing and only a few get lucky. Though experience is what builds a trader.
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May 09, 2021, 11:50:14 PM
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Following the same strategy is not a good idea to do as an individual traders here in cryptocurrency.
It is still much better to apply the natural way of trading in crypto space, aside from that most of the time
when you do the same strategy you will never learn and understand what really trading is in this filed
of business anyway.

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Following the same strategy is not a good idea to do as an individual traders here in cryptocurrency.
It is still much better to apply the natural way of trading in crypto space, aside from that most of the time
when you do the same strategy you will never learn and understand what really trading is in this filed
of business anyway.

Well, if the strategy is profitable you will not change it! Natural or artificial, simple or complicated... you find what works for you and you do it as long as the strategy works and brining profit!
Of course, it's hard to believe that any strategy can work for a long period, but like in everything else I believe there're exceptions here, so probably some people are doing the same thing for years, and that is still profitable for them!
It would be foolish to think that everyone follows the same strategy, it would be better to say that we all have the same goal, to make a profit! But how we get to that profit is a different story for each of us!

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May 10, 2021, 01:18:26 PM
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it's hard to believe that any strategy can work for a long period, but like in everything else I believe there're exceptions here, so probably some people are doing the same thing for years, and that is still profitable for them!
There are very very less possibilities for same strategy to be working for years because market conditions and market fluctuations are improving and varying over the time which makes most of the technical analysis need to be improved or modified according to different market conditions. So, more of technical strategies will not work for long periods in crypto markets.

It would be foolish to think that everyone follows the same strategy, it would be better to say that we all have the same goal, to make a profit! But how we get to that profit is a different story for each of us!
I don't agree that it is not kind of foolishness because we are all working for making profits by buying at cheaper levels and then selling at higher levels which makes some people are assuming like we are all into same kind of strategy; and I am not seeing any wrong with that.

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