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May 03, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2021, 04:06:02 AM by Lorence.xD
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

Edit: I didn't mean a large scale betting it is more of an informal, like how you do a bet with your friends and nothing more than that.

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May 03, 2021, 12:30:43 PM
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Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

Technically, NO but it's no different when betting on Oscars, International Pageants, etc. where someone who has the authority already knows the result.

Regardless, it's up to you if you want to bet on that if there's an open betting on it.

Do you see some crypto-gambling sites offering betting on that?
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May 03, 2021, 12:35:24 PM
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Technically, NO but it's no different when betting on Oscars, International Pageants, etc. where someone who has the authority already knows the result.

Regardless, it's up to you if you want to bet on that if there's an open betting on it.

Do you see some crypto-gambling sites offering betting on that?
I want it more of like a personal/informal betting, this is a weird betting and I don't think that there is any site that is going to list that. Kind of like how you are trying to predict who wins and the one who predicts right wins the bet.

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May 03, 2021, 12:51:50 PM
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

There a lot of manga fans, so the possibility that people would like to bet on an outcome is definitely there. I am a huge Manga fan myself, but didn't read RoR yet. Maybe you want to try and give odds here on the forum and see if some users will take your bet.

My recommendation for another bet: When is the third Season of One Punch Man coming out? 2021, 2022, 2023 or never?
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May 03, 2021, 01:12:10 PM
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I want it more of like a personal/informal betting
then go for it. I doubt the manga author would want to manipulate the story in order to mess with your bets  Cheesy

There a lot of manga fans, so the possibility that people would like to bet on an outcome is definitely there.
there could be a lot of fans. Question is are they into betting? My answer would be no, there's a reason is why bookmakers don't even offer odds for the more popular manga titles out there

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May 03, 2021, 01:43:26 PM
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There a lot of manga fans, so the possibility that people would like to bet on an outcome is definitely there. I am a huge Manga fan myself, but didn't read RoR yet. Maybe you want to try and give odds here on the forum and see if some users will take your bet.

My recommendation for another bet: When is the third Season of One Punch Man coming out? 2021, 2022, 2023 or never?
I guess anything could be betted on. But I lean more on making sure that it is accessible and can be read since Kengan Omega releases its chapters weekly so we can easily know who will win or will it be draw. I wouldn't hope for a One Punch Man third season look how long it took for a season 2, your opponent with the bet might've forgotten about the bet when the Season 3 is released. I recommend that you read Records of Ragnarok, it's literally Man versus Gods in a MMA style arena.

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May 03, 2021, 01:53:53 PM
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And what if the writers will make heavy bets on the characters they will decide to win? Do you think that is still fair? Or what if a wealthy or very powerful person approaches the writer and bribes him to tell him which character will turn out the winner? Or what if some syndicate group will look for the manga author or creator and force him to write the way they wanted because they have already made large bets on a certain character?

There are so many reasons why this is not a good idea.
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May 03, 2021, 02:13:14 PM
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And what if the writers will make heavy bets on the characters they will decide to win? Do you think that is still fair? Or what if a wealthy or very powerful person approaches the writer and bribes him to tell him which character will turn out the winner? Or what if some syndicate group will look for the manga author or creator and force him to write the way they wanted because they have already made large bets on a certain character?
1) Read the thread. OP said there are no sites offering a market for manga so it's a personal bet, not the biggest betting event of the year attracting powerful ppl, the mafia and billions of dollars, 2) gambling in japan is banned so none of what u said is gonna happen anyway

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May 03, 2021, 02:14:37 PM
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?
You should be very cautious when you bet on this kind of events, because the final outcome can be changed according to the odds. For example if people mostly bet on one outcome, the writer could bet on the opposite outcome with the biggest odds and change the winner in his history after that. A good way to handle that would be to write the hash code of the name of the winner in a previously published book or on blockchain in a publicly known block.

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May 03, 2021, 02:40:14 PM
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

I doubt such betting would ever be able to take off for a few reasons but as already mentioned, you cannot bet on something where the outcome is already pre-determined by a single writer. If the writer ever found out they could make big money, then they could easily bet on the winner before they even release the next "battle". Even if they were super honest and kept the result hidden from those around them, they would instantly become a target for hackers who could also profit off the information in the same way. There is plenty of room for non-gaming bets going on, you could head over to smarkets to see some examples - they have a "Current Affairs" and "TV & Entertainment" section. The sort of bets they allow cannot be easily influenced by one or two people alone, like Who will win Eurovision? Will self-driving vehicles be allowed on EU roads in 2021?

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May 03, 2021, 02:45:55 PM
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You should be very cautious when you bet on this kind of events, because the final outcome can be changed according to the odds. For example if people mostly bet on one outcome, the writer could bet on the opposite outcome with the biggest odds and change the winner in his history after that. A good way to handle that would be to write the hash code of the name of the winner in a previously published book or on blockchain in a publicly known block.
Read @Lorence.xD's reply, it seems that OP has explained that it isn't available as a widespread betting and more of a personal bet, so from what I can understand from it is that it is like where you and your other friend who reads the manga are betting as to who is going to win the match.
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

The problem on this kind of Bet was the result is predetermined by the author and there's an antagonist factor or story line for the match result. I believe this bet is good when betting against a friend. Using it on betting against the house will gonna result to chaos on manga industry since the author can be bribe to manipulate the result especially when a lot of money involve.
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Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?
On the way the manga gambling story can be called the genre of assessment of manga game gambling bettors is considered less attractive, but as the OP said what makes this game interesting is the storyline that makes the game fun in the action.

To determine victory in gambling is usually taken from the main character's journey. Meaning: who becomes the strongest king, he will win.

Any game play is basically determined by your own genius to determine the victory, manga games are almost the same as the type of strategy and war based games, in manga games are very determined by talent.

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May 03, 2021, 04:03:47 PM
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?
This is interesting, I have seen people betting on almost anything imaginable so I am not against this, however there are several problems with this, the first is that this is going to be a very small and niche market and no casino is going to offer it so you will need to find someone that wants to gamble against you.

The second are the odds, what odds are you going to use? I have not read that manga but if one of the main characters is on that fight then you need to adjust the odds accordingly as it is unlikely a character like that will lose, and finally you need to consider what to do when there is an outcome different than one character winning or losing, after all we know that authors are famous for pulling stuff that makes no sense to force an unexpected outcome.
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I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

Never a good idea !
The writers write it obv but it goes through long process of submission and then the illustration, there is a whole team of people working for it and at the end of the day the team knows what's gonna happen which does mean that if anyone of them did a mistake or maybe took some money and gave the information to someone then what would it become of them ? This is a predetermined story it's not happening live ! It's like betting on the matches of WWE if you know what I mean. Both are fixed and you can't have 100% fair trade here.
Better bet if Hunter X Hunter's author will return in 2021 or no 😂
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Im a fan of manga and loves to read and watch a lot but the betting with it is quite not possible since it will only depend in writers idea and plot twist of the story. What can be done is to have a poll and see whom and what instances they can win or lose to give some ideas for author but not to the point we will bet on his decision or writers plan whether to make it a win or not since some might manipulate the betting by talking to him privately.

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Maximum betting limits are usually low for pre scripted events like WWE and pro wrestling. They're usually not worth betting on if the goal is solely to turn a profit and make money. $200 as a ballpark estimate for a max bet wouldn't be unreasonable. Hardcore gamblers often demand max bet limits greater than $10k.

There was a website called (I think it was) betsofbitcoin. Does anyone remember that website? Users could create their own events for people to bet on. Moderators would determine the outcome on the appointed date. The site seems to have been shut down years ago.

I have not come across many gamblers who were also fans of manga/manwha. OP I think you're the 1st I've ever seen aside from myself.
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I want it more of like a personal/informal betting
then go for it. I doubt the manga author would want to manipulate the story in order to mess with your bets  Cheesy
For sure that will really be the case and its still hard to trust up with these kind of betting where bets can easily be fucked up depending on the mind of the writer.

Come to think that each decision would really be possibly be altered nor get affected with several external involvement neither it would be personal or really make out some intent for the
sake of making more money.So i dont really see this to be that appealing due to those very common reasons.
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I haven't seen one bookie that offers manga betting but I don't think that they're going to have this option in the near future. They're focusing on the gamblers that are sharing the same interests in sports which is mostly the apple of the eye for betting.
But it might be if a casino that's dedicated for the same gamblers who are also manga lovers. I think it's going to be needing a lot of effort if it's episode per episode that would have that kind of betting or any part of the story that betting is applicable.

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There was a website called (I think it was) betsofbitcoin. Does anyone remember that website? Users could create their own events for people to bet on. Moderators would determine the outcome on the appointed date. The site seems to have been shut down years ago.

I know of a ETH token that lets users/holders design their own bets and outcome qualifiers for who wins.   I guess people can bet on anything but ideally the amount of money already involved with the outcome not being biased or made known before the end date is far greater then the amounts being bet upon on it.   There is a danger the tail will wag the dog if bets are involved with relatively low level events or sports, its unfortunate but it wouldnt be anything new to occur and its best not to tempt fate on this really.

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