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May 03, 2021, 02:38:43 PM
Last edit: May 04, 2021, 09:51:01 PM by Baofeng
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Before we forgot, there is a 140 lbs reunification fight between Josh Taylor and Jose Ramirez on May 22. Both are undefeated boxer so this is a very good fight.

Josh Taylor has the IBF and WBA belts, while Jose Ramirez has the WBC and WBO title. The last boxer who held this belt in this division is Terrence Crawford.



https://www.boxingscene.com/jose-ramirez-josh-taylor-unification-fight-officially-announced-22--155847

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I would say that Josh Taylor has the advantage here, he has faced a lot of great and upcoming fighters in the WBSS tournament. Both has a good chin and a body puncher. But I would say that Taylor might take this one by unanimous decision. We just have to wait for more betting options though.

 
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May 03, 2021, 09:14:02 PM
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I would say that Josh Taylor has the advantage here, he has faced a lot of great and upcoming fighters in the WBSS tournament. Both has a good chin and a body puncher. But I would say that Taylor might take this one by unanimous decision. We just have to wait for more betting options though.
I watch a couple of fights and even i think Josh Taylor has the advantage coming into this fight and he will be a decent favorite in this match up in the eyes of the bookies as well. In one of the fights i have seen Jose Ramirez getting out boxed by his opponent and looking at the fighting style of Josh Taylor he could do that but he needs to gauge his range rather than brawling and it all depends upon how he approaches the fight.
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May 04, 2021, 12:24:36 AM
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I just watched the highlights of Josh Taylor here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BDNvn5h8Sk

Doesn't have that one punch knock out, but damn, he is a hard and grind boxer. That body shot to the liver is wicked, and he win most of his fight by doing that + in can really took a lot of air to his opponents. Jose Ramirez is a good body puncher too, but I think Taylor is the more complete fighter between the two. A lot of stakes in this fight as this is a reunification, best of the best.

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May 04, 2021, 03:02:24 AM
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I watch a couple of fights and even i think Josh Taylor has the advantage coming into this fight and he will be a decent favorite in this match up in the eyes of the bookies as well. In one of the fights i have seen Jose Ramirez getting out boxed by his opponent and looking at the fighting style of Josh Taylor he could do that but he needs to gauge his range rather than brawling and it all depends upon how he approaches the fight.
I have seen the stats and I gotta agree with you, Josh is a Southpaw compared to Ramirez who is an Orthodox which is problematic for Ramirez since Josh can deliver right hooks faster than Ramirez although they are both equal in terms of height, I think the style will decide who wins.

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May 04, 2021, 03:53:35 AM
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I watch a couple of fights and even i think Josh Taylor has the advantage coming into this fight and he will be a decent favorite in this match up in the eyes of the bookies as well. In one of the fights i have seen Jose Ramirez getting out boxed by his opponent and looking at the fighting style of Josh Taylor he could do that but he needs to gauge his range rather than brawling and it all depends upon how he approaches the fight.
I have seen the stats and I gotta agree with you, Josh is a Southpaw compared to Ramirez who is an Orthodox which is problematic for Ramirez since Josh can deliver right hooks faster than Ramirez although they are both equal in terms of height, I think the style will decide who wins.

And Josh also has this uncanny ability to slip down when someone is throwing left hook on him and then he deliver a counter right hook. Ramirez though I would say has a good chin, so he will be chin tested by Josh. And it's going to be a battle of body shots, but I will give the edge to Josh, his liver shot might not be the best, but still very effect if it hits you right on the spot, you will go down and it is going to hurt.

 
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May 04, 2021, 04:54:17 AM
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And Josh also has this uncanny ability to slip down when someone is throwing left hook on him and then he deliver a counter right hook. Ramirez though I would say has a good chin, so he will be chin tested by Josh. And it's going to be a battle of body shots, but I will give the edge to Josh, his liver shot might not be the best, but still very effect if it hits you right on the spot, you will go down and it is going to hurt.
Yeah, I have checked some tapes of his highlights and I cement my faith that Josh is going to be the one that will cause the first loss of Ramirez.

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May 04, 2021, 05:42:42 AM
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Probably, the best fight this month and also will be the most watch since both are strong and undefeated. What an exciting fight to watch and it's getting closer now. It's rare to see a fight such as this where they meet in the unification bout after not losing a single fight and finally with this fight, someone needs to lose and the only one will announce as the new champion of the world on their weight class. This kind of fight will not reach 12 rounds, I'm sure about that and it won't finish early either. Maybe the fight will conclude on 6-8 rounds.

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Probably, the best fight this month and also will be the most watch since both are strong and undefeated. What an exciting fight to watch and it's getting closer now. It's rare to see a fight such as this where they meet in the unification bout after not losing a single fight and finally with this fight, someone needs to lose and the only one will announce as the new champion of the world on their weight class. This kind of fight will not reach 12 rounds, I'm sure about that and it won't finish early either. Maybe the fight will conclude on 6-8 rounds.
This will put Ramirez' experience to test against Taylor who is the heavily favored of the two. I hope that they will give a good fight too as I have seen their fights although I am more impressed with Taylor. I agree that it won't reach 12th round because Taylor seems to be a knockout artist.
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May 04, 2021, 08:31:46 AM
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Probably, the best fight this month and also will be the most watch since both are strong and undefeated. What an exciting fight to watch and it's getting closer now. It's rare to see a fight such as this where they meet in the unification bout after not losing a single fight and finally with this fight, someone needs to lose and the only one will announce as the new champion of the world on their weight class. This kind of fight will not reach 12 rounds, I'm sure about that and it won't finish early either. Maybe the fight will conclude on 6-8 rounds.
This will put Ramirez' experience to test against Taylor who is the heavily favored of the two. I hope that they will give a good fight too as I have seen their fights although I am more impressed with Taylor. I agree that it won't reach 12th round because Taylor seems to be a knockout artist.

Volume puncher usually won fights and for sure boxing bettors knows that Josh will have it to take the win here that's why the starting odds is in his favour.

We have to take notice that one Teofimo Lopez is done with the 135 lbs division, he will surely go up in weight class and will fight anyone of these two in the future. Not much noise though in this 140 lbs, but looking at the records and what is in line in this fight, this surely has the making of war and could be a candidate for the fight of the year.

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May 04, 2021, 09:42:22 AM
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Here are the professional boxing records for these two boxers. Another exciting fight, both got no losses, both undefeated.
Jose Carlos Ramirez really got the advantage here, even the odds. But the real thing here, Josh Taylor and also undefeated the same with Jose Carlos Ramirez.
In height/reach, they are almost the same. The experience only is the advantage of Jose Carlos Ramirez.

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May 04, 2021, 12:34:07 PM
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Probably, the best fight this month and also will be the most watch since both are strong and undefeated. What an exciting fight to watch and it's getting closer now. It's rare to see a fight such as this where they meet in the unification bout after not losing a single fight and finally with this fight, someone needs to lose and the only one will announce as the new champion of the world on their weight class. This kind of fight will not reach 12 rounds, I'm sure about that and it won't finish early either. Maybe the fight will conclude on 6-8 rounds.

Maybe not because we have the Canelo vs Saunders this weekend  Smiley.

TBH, i don't follow these boxers but it's good that we have the chance to talk about them and their future in this sport.

Base on the tale of the tapes, they almost have the same height and the only difference is the number of fights and i wonder why Jose Ramirez is the slight underdog when in fact he is the more experienced fighter.

Nevertheless, it's worth the watch as the betting odds is not so one-sided.

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May 04, 2021, 10:21:49 PM
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Probably, the best fight this month and also will be the most watch since both are strong and undefeated. What an exciting fight to watch and it's getting closer now. It's rare to see a fight such as this where they meet in the unification bout after not losing a single fight and finally with this fight, someone needs to lose and the only one will announce as the new champion of the world on their weight class. This kind of fight will not reach 12 rounds, I'm sure about that and it won't finish early either. Maybe the fight will conclude on 6-8 rounds.

Maybe not because we have the Canelo vs Saunders this weekend  Smiley.

TBH, i don't follow these boxers but it's good that we have the chance to talk about them and their future in this sport.

Base on the tale of the tapes, they almost have the same height and the only difference is the number of fights and i wonder why Jose Ramirez is the slight underdog when in fact he is the more experienced fighter.

Nevertheless, it's worth the watch as the betting odds is not so one-sided.

Not just because of the Canelo vs Saunders fight though.

This division lacks a champion that has the charisma to attract boxing fans. And then 5 pounds south, we have the most talked about divisions with Lopez, Garcia, Davis and Haney at 135 lbs.

The current favourite Josh Taylor is non American, another reason that I think of why this division is quiet. So they are grooming Jose Ramirez to be at least the next big thing for the 140 lbs division. And i guess that's what this fight is exciting, it will happen in Vegas, Josh Taylor needs a knock out, doesn't want this to go to the scorecard.

 
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^ If in case that 12 rounds have been done on this match, Josh Taylor might also be done. Ramirez is too strong and has very good stamina. Meaning to say that, his chin is too much for Josh Taylor, Ramirez could get better scores as well compared to Josh Taylor. This match will be in favor of Ramirez’s side. Good luck with the other side then. Experience and being wise, Ramirez also has the best experience. Being held by Rick Miridian? That’s a no-no for Josh Taylor. Nevertheless, any of you have been to which bookies are good to gamble.
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If people only knew how hard/tough that Ramirez’s chin is. I guess people would consider this one as an iron chin.
Like seriously? Even when his opponent directly hits his chin, he can still survive as nothing happened. However, Josh Taylor actually has the same strength. It’s like a battle between two tanks.

I would say, this one will I guess be a very long type of match. I'm not expecting a know down here, but I am expecting a very exhausting match in history.

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May 05, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
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I just watched the highlights of Josh Taylor here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BDNvn5h8Sk

Doesn't have that one punch knock out, but damn, he is a hard and grind boxer. That body shot to the liver is wicked, and he win most of his fight by doing that + in can really took a lot of air to his opponents. Jose Ramirez is a good body puncher too, but I think Taylor is the more complete fighter between the two. A lot of stakes in this fight as this is a reunification, best of the best.

Yeah, I agree with this.

His boxing record is 17 wins, 13 out of 17 are all win by knocked out, which is really scary and he has no losses yet. I've watched also a couple video of his fights and I think his punch is much deadlier than Ramirez, but we still don't know what might happen. One lucky punch can change everything in boxing like what happened to Manny Pacquiao vs Eric Morales, that I didn't expect Pacquiao would lose.

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May 05, 2021, 11:42:21 PM
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If people only knew how hard/tough that Ramirez’s chin is. I guess people would consider this one as an iron chin.
Like seriously? Even when his opponent directly hits his chin, he can still survive as nothing happened. However, Josh Taylor actually has the same strength. It’s like a battle between two tanks.

But I would say that Josh Taylor chin is more tested here, against Regis Prograis and Ivan Baranchyk and he survived those two hard hitting boxers.

I would say, this one will I guess be a very long type of match. I'm not expecting a know down here, but I am expecting a very exhausting match in history.

Yeah, and I'm sure they will throw a lot of punch here, maybe we can see a record for most punch in this weight division because these two likes to brawl.

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Although it looks like Taylor is a Southpaw which is a counter to Orthodox, I think that Ramirez has the experience card in here because he has more fights under his belt but it seems that everyone is favoring Taylor in this bout but I have to go with my gut that Ramirez's experience is going to  make a difference in this fight.

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Although it looks like Taylor is a Southpaw which is a counter to Orthodox, I think that Ramirez has the experience card in here because he has more fights under his belt but it seems that everyone is favoring Taylor in this bout but I have to go with my gut that Ramirez's experience is going to  make a difference in this fight.
It's obvious that Ramirez will have more experience because he turn pro early.

But you have to look at the quality of opponents Taylor has face, specially in the WBSS, he won those belts from those 2 champions in that tournament. And that is the main reason why he is the favorite, good and quality opponents, but he had the intangibles, like mental toughness. Both as others have said has a solid chin so that it will negate this advantages. Overall, Taylor is the complete and overall fighter.

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If we look at the odds of the major bookmakers, we can see that they all believe that Josh Taylor is the favourite. I think Jose Ramirez has all the chances to win. If I am not mistaken both boxers have not suffered a single defeat in their professional careers. I expect this fight to be very hot.

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I like it when two undefeated boxers with the same style collide, both are sluggers always ready to engage, this is going to be a very exciting match to watch and with both of them champions, so much is at stake here, I checked the highlights of their fights and both of them can deliver a knockout, this is going to be a close fight if they decide to engage and do not show hesitancy there will be a knock out here, I have Taylor winning but Ramirez is a dangerous fighter.

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