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Question: Who will win?
Casimero - 32 (88.9%)
Rigondeaux - 3 (8.3%)
Draw - 1 (2.8%)
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May 06, 2021, 02:18:54 AM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.

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May 06, 2021, 10:24:05 AM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.

That's a good point, Casimero is one of the hottest boxers now, an underrated boxer but could win against a champion. I would also pick him in this fight, no doubt he could win and might win a KO here. The last loss of Rigondeaux was  TKO because he did not continue, this could be his 2nd KO, but hopefully not in a manner he lost against Loma.

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May 06, 2021, 10:54:10 AM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.

That's a good point, Casimero is one of the hottest boxers now, an underrated boxer but could win against a champion. I would also pick him in this fight, no doubt he could win and might win a KO here. The last loss of Rigondeaux was  TKO because he did not continue, this could be his 2nd KO, but hopefully not in a manner he lost against Loma.

We expect a good fight, Casimero had a tougher challenge compared to Inoue... This is a statement that Casimero is not afraid of anyone, besides he is not undefeated so there's nothing to be worried about, being a great boxer does not automatically mean you are undefeated, for me, you are called great if you are exciting to watch, that's why people choose Pacquiao vs Mayweather.
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May 06, 2021, 10:54:21 AM
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Well, Casimero is a Filipino Fighter same as Manny Pacquiao --their pride is enough to take advantage and win against any contenders.

But in boxing, pride is not enough. You need strength to fulfill the pride.

Knowing Casimero, he's an aggressive boxer so I don't question his offensive firepower. But since Rigondeaux will likely shift into defense more, Casimero just needs to be cautious to cover the hole that might be used as an opening by his opponent. A lucky shot always has a chance to strike.

Also true! Not because you have that full determination to win means that you are in favor,

The fight could twist and the favor will fire back on you if you put your guard down, that aggresiveness which really common to Casimero might endanger him, Rigo's camp might see that and carefully analyze the possibility of hitting him from his own offensive attack, a counter one that fall solid may bring him down and snatch this fight from him(Casimero)
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May 06, 2021, 11:16:05 AM
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Well, Casimero is a Filipino Fighter same as Manny Pacquiao --their pride is enough to take advantage and win against any contenders.

But in boxing, pride is not enough. You need strength to fulfill the pride.

Knowing Casimero, he's an aggressive boxer so I don't question his offensive firepower. But since Rigondeaux will likely shift into defense more, Casimero just needs to be cautious to cover the hole that might be used as an opening by his opponent. A lucky shot always has a chance to strike.

Also true! Not because you have that full determination to win means that you are in favor,

The fight could twist and the favor will fire back on you if you put your guard down, that aggresiveness which really common to Casimero might endanger him, Rigo's camp might see that and carefully analyze the possibility of hitting him from his own offensive attack, a counter one that fall solid may bring him down and snatch this fight from him(Casimero)

It's possible though, it's not all about Casimero as Rigondeaux is a hell of a champion too. Maybe he is not getting any younger, but his experience is still there and he can still win with his defensive ability. Casimero needs to have a very convincing win so he can get another big fight after this, it is his defense of the title, so he should win.

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May 07, 2021, 11:59:33 AM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.

That's a good point, Casimero is one of the hottest boxers now, an underrated boxer but could win against a champion. I would also pick him in this fight, no doubt he could win and might win a KO here. The last loss of Rigondeaux was  TKO because he did not continue, this could be his 2nd KO, but hopefully not in a manner he lost against Loma.

We expect a good fight, Casimero had a tougher challenge compared to Inoue... This is a statement that Casimero is not afraid of anyone, besides he is not undefeated so there's nothing to be worried about, being a great boxer does not automatically mean you are undefeated, for me, you are called great if you are exciting to watch, that's why people choose Pacquiao vs Mayweather.

Even though he is not undefeated, this fight is still very important to him, because if he lose, his popularity will drop and he will not line up a big fight. On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

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May 07, 2021, 12:48:07 PM
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On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.
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May 07, 2021, 09:51:38 PM
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On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.
Not that i do believe on on where Bob will usually set out fights on where hype is really on there because he knows that revenue would really be big.Who knows if the current
fights given into each fighter are part of their strategy on making some even more excitement about Casimero and Inoue fight.If they would able win their respective fights
then we might see next that it would really be settled on next possible negotiations on that certain bout. Lots of had anticipated that this would push
through but it turns out that they would need to fight another boxers in the ring.
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May 07, 2021, 11:51:18 PM
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On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.
Not that i do believe on on where Bob will usually set out fights on where hype is really on there because he knows that revenue would really be big.Who knows if the current
fights given into each fighter are part of their strategy on making some even more excitement about Casimero and Inoue fight.If they would able win their respective fights
then we might see next that it would really be settled on next possible negotiations on that certain bout. Lots of had anticipated that this would push
through but it turns out that they would need to fight another boxers in the ring.

they need to increase the hype of their potential fight in the future. promoters are smart, if they can see tremendous following for casimero-inoue fight, they will make it happen. but right now, i guess it is not the time. besides, if that will happen, i hope that the virus is much contained so more people can really watch it live. the excitement is different if the audience is full-packed. but guess, we will not see that happen anytime soon

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May 08, 2021, 12:12:00 AM
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On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.

Sounds familiar isn't it?

That's how Bob build Manny Pacquiao, carefully choosing fighters and make him look good. So for now, just maybe the Inoue vs Casimero might not happen. And so Casimero has to move on with his career and stop chasing Inoue for now and fights Rigondeaux who is already a wash up fighter. And if by chance Casimero won in brandish fashion, he can call again Inoue and put the pressure on him and Bob to make the fight happen in the future.

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May 08, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
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On the other hand, if he will win, he could push to continue the hype until Inoue will give him the fight he is asking for a long period of time already.

I doubt that, if they can't give Casimero a fight now, how can they give him a fight if Casimero will get better and better. Inoue is undefeated, and in a good pound-for-pound ranking, if he loses, his career might be at risk, and knowing bob, he would not allow that. Let's expect that Bob will just find an opponent of Inoue that he can easily beat, he will be a cash cow for a while until he will be fully tested.

Sounds familiar isn't it?

That's how Bob build Manny Pacquiao, carefully choosing fighters and make him look good. So for now, just maybe the Inoue vs Casimero might not happen. And so Casimero has to move on with his career and stop chasing Inoue for now and fights Rigondeaux who is already a wash up fighter. And if by chance Casimero won in brandish fashion, he can call again Inoue and put the pressure on him and Bob to make the fight happen in the future.

I don't think we can compare Manny to Inoue, Manny never ducks anyone, he would fight whoever is put in front of him and Bob Arum trusted him so he doesn't need to disapprove it as long as the potential income is good. Inoue, is undefeated until now but he hasn't faced a caliber fighter yet, well, he fought Donaire which he was given a tough time, but Donaire is not anymore in his prime, so it should be Casimero whom he should face and not an unpopular boxer.

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May 08, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.
I want Casimero to win the match, although I am confident that he can win he is fighting a champion and anything can happen, I want the Casimero Inoue match to materialize and I know it will materialize at the right time, they both have promoters who want to make a big profit at the right time, the excitement of many fans will make both fighters a lot of money.
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.
I want Casimero to win the match, although I am confident that he can win he is fighting a champion and anything can happen, I want the Casimero Inoue match to materialize and I know it will materialize at the right time, they both have promoters who want to make a big profit at the right time, the excitement of many fans will make both fighters a lot of money.

We will find it out soon, but for the moment, both fighters have to win whoever they will fight. The Casimero vs Inoue was scheduled before the covid-19, it was later postponed then cancelled due to the pandemic, therefore, our best chance of seeing this fight is when the pandemic is over.
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May 08, 2021, 09:58:47 PM
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I am for John Riel Casimero in this match. I would have easily chosen Guillermo Rigondeaux had this fight been staged during his peak. I was a fan of this guy's unbelievable speed even though I still find many of his fights a little boring. But he's an old man now.

The last time I saw Rigondeaux fight was when he was defeated by Loma. I know he scored a couple of knockout wins later on but I don't think he still got it. Casimero, on the other hand, is on a KO streak since 2018.
I want Casimero to win the match, although I am confident that he can win he is fighting a champion and anything can happen, I want the Casimero Inoue match to materialize and I know it will materialize at the right time, they both have promoters who want to make a big profit at the right time, the excitement of many fans will make both fighters a lot of money.

We will find it out soon, but for the moment, both fighters have to win whoever they will fight. The Casimero vs Inoue was scheduled before the covid-19, it was later postponed then cancelled due to the pandemic, therefore, our best chance of seeing this fight is when the pandemic is over.
And that would be having an indefinite schedule but who knows that after their own fights would be over then theyre would be the ones to be next in line but i do presume that they are just waiting for this
pandemic to be over because when it comes to revenue sake then nothing beats out when people do able to go into the arena and would watch the fight compared into having that PPV sales
which is entirely different compared to arena ticket sales.So this might be their target and thats why they do continue to postponed it and rather give them
other opponents.

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We will find it out soon, but for the moment, both fighters have to win whoever they will fight. The Casimero vs Inoue was scheduled before the covid-19, it was later postponed then cancelled due to the pandemic, therefore, our best chance of seeing this fight is when the pandemic is over.

The one thing I am afraid of is an upset on Casimoero or Inoue, we all know that this things happen when fighters will make a lot of money but they delayed the fight and opted to fight low rankign figters only to get an upset, both Mascarinas and Rigondeaux are capable of an upset, and this will ruin everything we all hope to happen a mega fight between Inoue and Casimero
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May 09, 2021, 09:37:23 AM
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After Casimero beat Tete I become a big fan, Tete happens to score one of the fastest knockout in boxing history yet Casimero beat him convincingly by a knockout, many consider Tete to be the man capable of beating Inoue, now every attention shifted to Casimero, this fight will be a good tune-up fight for Casimero after he beat Rigondeux he'll have more confidence to beat Inoue.
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May 09, 2021, 10:44:05 AM
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Obviously, Casimero's promoter and the manager wants him to get a good tune fight before fighting Inoue, the pandemic will not let these two champions collide because of the lost of money which is really untrue, Rigondeaux's time is over and this could be his last fight, and Casimero will send him to retirement and he will be well prepared to fight INOUE.

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May 10, 2021, 12:23:54 PM
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Obviously, Casimero's promoter and the manager wants him to get a good tune fight before fighting Inoue, the pandemic will not let these two champions collide because of the lost of money which is really untrue, Rigondeaux's time is over and this could be his last fight, and Casimero will send him to retirement and he will be well prepared to fight INOUE.
The Inoue vs Casimero fight is not anymore hyped now, fans quit speculating this fight as there is news that it will not happen anytime soon. Both fighters (Inoue and Casimero) are busy with other opponents, maybe in the future but not soon we will see them fight.

If you see some of the videos for Casimero, he was really wanting to fight Inoue and he even calls himself the real monster, Inoue has not responded to that challenge because they know it's their camp who canceled the fight.

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May 10, 2021, 02:24:27 PM
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I had to admit Guillermo Rigondeaux has accuracy and power on his punches, you can literally hear the impact of his punches when they hit and superb accuracy, in my opinion, but apparently, he hasn't played in a long time now maybe he would have a hard time catching up because of his age and Casimero is younger than him but eventually, we can surely see if he is still able to keep up with John Riel Casimero because I think that Casimero has an advantage with Speed and because of their age gap it will clearly be shown on their match, Surely I would support my fellow Filipino and betting a couple of Crypto for this fight.
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May 10, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
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Obviously, Casimero's promoter and the manager wants him to get a good tune fight before fighting Inoue, the pandemic will not let these two champions collide because of the lost of money which is really untrue, Rigondeaux's time is over and this could be his last fight, and Casimero will send him to retirement and he will be well prepared to fight INOUE.
The Inoue vs Casimero fight is not anymore hyped now, fans quit speculating this fight as there is news that it will not happen anytime soon. Both fighters (Inoue and Casimero) are busy with other opponents, maybe in the future but not soon we will see them fight.

If you see some of the videos for Casimero, he was really wanting to fight Inoue and he even calls himself the real monster, Inoue has not responded to that challenge because they know it's their camp who canceled the fight.
Whatever the reason is for such cancelation then who knows but for sure there some valid reason for that but doesnt mean that they chicken out regarding on what Casimero is been saying.

Its true that people are already losing interest on this one specially that one of them had already set out some fights which means we might be seeing this fight to be pushed or not for this year or into the next.

It would be good if we would really see for this fight to be pushed but it seems that they are just waiting for this pandemic to be over before they would talk about on the possible fight.

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