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Question: Who will win?
Casimero - 32 (88.9%)
Rigondeaux - 3 (8.3%)
Draw - 1 (2.8%)
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May 10, 2021, 09:47:08 PM
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I had to admit Guillermo Rigondeaux has accuracy and power on his punches, you can literally hear the impact of his punches when they hit and superb accuracy, in my opinion, but apparently, he hasn't played in a long time now maybe he would have a hard time catching up because of his age and Casimero is younger than him but eventually, we can surely see if he is still able to keep up with John Riel Casimero because I think that Casimero has an advantage with Speed and because of their age gap it will clearly be shown on their match, Surely I would support my fellow Filipino and betting a couple of Crypto for this fight.

I agree with you, before Casimero became popular, Rigondeaux has already become a champion and he was also winning good fights, things just change when he loses against Lomachenko, but we can understand since Lomachenko is the favorite.

if we compare Lomachenko and Casimero, Lomachenko is a world-class fighter which I think everyone knows compared to Casimero,  so  Rigondeaux definitely has a shot here, but I'll definitely bet on the young and hungry fighter who is Casimero.

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May 12, 2021, 03:03:30 AM
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I had to admit Guillermo Rigondeaux has accuracy and power on his punches, you can literally hear the impact of his punches when they hit and superb accuracy, in my opinion, but apparently, he hasn't played in a long time now maybe he would have a hard time catching up because of his age and Casimero is younger than him but eventually, we can surely see if he is still able to keep up with John Riel Casimero because I think that Casimero has an advantage with Speed and because of their age gap it will clearly be shown on their match, Surely I would support my fellow Filipino and betting a couple of Crypto for this fight.

I agree with you, before Casimero became popular, Rigondeaux has already become a champion and he was also winning good fights, things just change when he loses against Lomachenko, but we can understand since Lomachenko is the favorite.

The both became a champion in 2012, the only thing is that Casimero went to the backyard of the champion and beat them that's why there is no news because the fight happens outside of the US. Will Rigo is winning the US soil. So I guess in terms of popularity they should be at least equal.

if we compare Lomachenko and Casimero, Lomachenko is a world-class fighter which I think everyone knows compared to Casimero,  so  Rigondeaux definitely has a shot here, but I'll definitely bet on the young and hungry fighter who is Casimero.

Yes, he has a shot, but Casimero will hit him and he will become defensive again, that could make the fight boring for us.

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May 12, 2021, 05:39:14 AM
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I had to admit Guillermo Rigondeaux has accuracy and power on his punches, you can literally hear the impact of his punches when they hit and superb accuracy, in my opinion, but apparently, he hasn't played in a long time now maybe he would have a hard time catching up because of his age and Casimero is younger than him but eventually, we can surely see if he is still able to keep up with John Riel Casimero because I think that Casimero has an advantage with Speed and because of their age gap it will clearly be shown on their match, Surely I would support my fellow Filipino and betting a couple of Crypto for this fight.

I agree with you, before Casimero became popular, Rigondeaux has already become a champion and he was also winning good fights, things just change when he loses against Lomachenko, but we can understand since Lomachenko is the favorite.

if we compare Lomachenko and Casimero, Lomachenko is a world-class fighter which I think everyone knows compared to Casimero,  so  Rigondeaux definitely has a shot here, but I'll definitely bet on the young and hungry fighter who is Casimero.

Lomachenko is a way different level fighter that is for sure, but we may never know if they will had a rematch, and that is the only lost Rigondeaux had and 1 No Contest let's see if John Riel Casimero really can out speed Rigondeaux,


Yes, he has a shot, but Casimero will hit him and he will become defensive again, that could make the fight boring for us.

I don't think that this fight will go boring, that superb power punch and accuracy of Rigondeaux will be his weapon while Casimero has the speed and power in my opinion this is definitely a very exciting match I could not see the full depth of what may happen means it is unpredictable.
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May 12, 2021, 05:45:15 AM
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So the Inoue fight will not happening this year for sure? I thought at least before the year end their Fight will finally happen.

Because for me they are the fighter that really matches each other.

After Casimero beat Tete I become a big fan, Tete happens to score one of the fastest knockout in boxing history yet Casimero beat him convincingly by a knockout, many consider Tete to be the man capable of beating Inoue, now every attention shifted to Casimero, this fight will be a good tune-up fight for Casimero after he beat Rigondeux he'll have more confidence to beat Inoue.
Watch out if he finally face Inoue , the best fighter of Japan in their division.

Hope that Casimero will win again on this.

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May 12, 2021, 06:00:11 AM
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Yes, he has a shot, but Casimero will hit him and he will become defensive again, that could make the fight boring for us.

I don't think that this fight will go boring, that superb power punch and accuracy of Rigondeaux will be his weapon while Casimero has the speed and power in my opinion this is definitely a very exciting match I could not see the full depth of what may happen means it is unpredictable.

You have to check the record of Rigo, when he steps up and fights high caliber boxers, it's usually more of defense skills and UD win, against Nonito and Joseph Agbeko, and when he fought Loma he quit. His last 3 fights,

Solis with a record of 30-5-1 = SD
Ceja 32-3 = TKO
Delgado 16-8 = KO

So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

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May 12, 2021, 11:57:16 AM
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Yes, he has a shot, but Casimero will hit him and he will become defensive again, that could make the fight boring for us.

I don't think that this fight will go boring, that superb power punch and accuracy of Rigondeaux will be his weapon while Casimero has the speed and power in my opinion this is definitely a very exciting match I could not see the full depth of what may happen means it is unpredictable.

You have to check the record of Rigo, when he steps up and fights high caliber boxers, it's usually more of defense skills and UD win, against Nonito and Joseph Agbeko, and when he fought Loma he quit. His last 3 fights,

Solis with a record of 30-5-1 = SD
Ceja 32-3 = TKO
Delgado 16-8 = KO

So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

Casimero has to destroy the defense of Rigondeaux here as for sure, we can expect that he will just run and score and he will not fight toe to toe against Casimero as he knows his power. I like to see  KO win by Casimero as that would add up to his impressive victories in gambling, but I don't know if I will see it here.
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May 12, 2021, 12:13:05 PM
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So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

For me this will be a half boring, half-exciting fight. Rigo is no longer relevant in boxing anymore, he only fights to make some money and may not go out of his shell come fight night thus make this fight a boring one. On the other side, we all know what Casimero is capable of doing and with his offensive style of fight where he goes first and will to be hit, this will make this fight exciting.

Have seen some of Casimero's vlog and he promised that he will do his to knockout Rigo and i do believe he can do it.
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May 12, 2021, 01:10:17 PM
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This is a WBO bantamweight title fight, and two fighters have different styles, so it's hard to tell who will win.
As of now, there are no betting odds yet but I believe once the betting odds are out, one should not be a heavy favorite as it looks like a pretty fair fight.

Casimero record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916 (30 wins - 4 loses)

Rigondeaux record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989 (20 wins - 1 loss)

A boxer is judged based on his last fights and so far Casimero is doing great on his last two fights both of which he won decisively by knockout coming from two boxers one with good potential and another a holder of one of the fastest knockout.
We cannot say the same thing about Rigondeaux he quit on his tool against Loma because he cannot hit Loma and he makes him feel a weak fighter, it's fair enough to conclude that Casimero is by far the best fighter between the two so I'll go for Casimero here.

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May 12, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
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@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.
You're right, I was a little surprised, even though he is younger he has a good record. He competes a lot more, I don't know why that is.

Maybe Casimero's stamina is better, if there is a long match I think Casimero is better and will win. But this is only my prediction

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May 12, 2021, 05:14:54 PM
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So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

For me this will be a half boring, half-exciting fight. Rigo is no longer relevant in boxing anymore, he only fights to make some money and may not go out of his shell come fight night thus make this fight a boring one. On the other side, we all know what Casimero is capable of doing and with his offensive style of fight where he goes first and will to be hit, this will make this fight exciting.

Have seen some of Casimero's vlog and he promised that he will do his to knockout Rigo and i do believe he can do it.
There are indeed fighters to be like that but i cant say much about Rigo since i havent seen one of his fights so i cant really tell if this one would turn out to be a boring one.

When it comes to capability then there's no doubt that Casimero have it but doesnt mean that he should be confident on beating the other man because

this fighter shouldnt really let your guard down.Probabilities of lucky punch is there.

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May 12, 2021, 06:01:22 PM
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@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.
You're right, I was a little surprised, even though he is younger he has a good record. He competes a lot more, I don't know why that is.

Maybe Casimero's stamina is better, if there is a long match I think Casimero is better and will win. But this is only my prediction


You can share your opinion about this fight and for sure there are also members here who have the same sentiments, Casimero's camp
are now preparing for this fight for sure.

Reviewing everything against their opponents making sure that before this match they've got good strategy to counter whatever Rigo have
to showcase.

The fight will only be concluded after the matched, once the final bell rings and the ref raise the hand of the winner.

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So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

For me this will be a half boring, half-exciting fight. Rigo is no longer relevant in boxing anymore, he only fights to make some money and may not go out of his shell come fight night thus make this fight a boring one. On the other side, we all know what Casimero is capable of doing and with his offensive style of fight where he goes first and will to be hit, this will make this fight exciting.

Have seen some of Casimero's vlog and he promised that he will do his to knockout Rigo and i do believe he can do it.

Yes mate, probably one last hurray for Rigo before he eventually retires and hang that gloves. So what a better way to go out with a bang fighting Casimero at his prime. John Riel has the capability to knockout anyone, we already know that, thus it's going to be his offense against Rigo's defense. And I doubt that Rigo can withstand 12 rounds here, Casimero will pot shot him with power every round so it's possible that a knockout will come in less than ten rounds.

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May 12, 2021, 09:36:19 PM
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So that's level B fighter, now he is fighting a champion, at his prime, had a great chin, so I doubt that he can knock out Casimero with his "power". He is old at 40 and when fighters are ageing, the first thing that will go is your power and speed. Could be exciting in the first couple of rounds, until Casimero takes over or chin tested him and then Casimero will go back to his defensive style, which will make this fight a snoozer.

For me this will be a half boring, half-exciting fight. Rigo is no longer relevant in boxing anymore, he only fights to make some money and may not go out of his shell come fight night thus make this fight a boring one. On the other side, we all know what Casimero is capable of doing and with his offensive style of fight where he goes first and will to be hit, this will make this fight exciting.

Have seen some of Casimero's vlog and he promised that he will do his to knockout Rigo and i do believe he can do it.

Yes mate, probably one last hurray for Rigo before he eventually retires and hang that gloves. So what a better way to go out with a bang fighting Casimero at his prime. John Riel has the capability to knockout anyone, we already know that, thus it's going to be his offense against Rigo's defense. And I doubt that Rigo can withstand 12 rounds here, Casimero will pot shot him with power every round so it's possible that a knockout will come in less than ten rounds.

Rigo only lost once in his career, if Casimero has the same power as Loma, then probably we can expect a KO or TKO in the later rounds. Also, if Casimero would win by KO, he will be compared to LOMA because they are the only fighters who beat Rigo, and this will result in a big recognition again which makes Casimero more popular.

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May 13, 2021, 07:57:02 AM
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Rigo only lost once in his career, if Casimero has the same power as Loma, then probably we can expect a KO or TKO in the later rounds. Also, if Casimero would win by KO, he will be compared to LOMA because they are the only fighters who beat Rigo, and this will result in a big recognition again which makes Casimero more popular.

That is correct, he lost against LOMA and that's okay because LOMA was a good fighter and he was the favorite that time.

here are the betting odds for that fight. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-guillermo-rigondeaux-betting-odds

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Guillermo Rigondeaux +250

Maybe we will see the same in this fight being Casimero as the favorite.

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Rigo only lost once in his career, if Casimero has the same power as Loma, then probably we can expect a KO or TKO in the later rounds. Also, if Casimero would win by KO, he will be compared to LOMA because they are the only fighters who beat Rigo, and this will result in a big recognition again which makes Casimero more popular.

That is correct, he lost against LOMA and that's okay because LOMA was a good fighter and he was the favorite that time.

here are the betting odds for that fight. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-guillermo-rigondeaux-betting-odds

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Vasyl Lomachenko -325
Guillermo Rigondeaux +250

Maybe we will see the same in this fight being Casimero as the favorite.

I guess this is too much, Rigondeaux will be the underdog, that's for sure but Casimero will not get -325 as he is not as popular as Lomachenko. Let's just wait for the betting odds, the earlier we bet the better as we might see the best odds for Casimero if you guys are backing him to win.
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May 14, 2021, 12:54:24 PM
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Casimero record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916 (30 wins - 4 loses)

Rigondeaux record :
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989 (20 wins - 1 loss)
I was not expecting this to happen because after the last fight of casimero i thought it will be Inoue of Japan is what he will facing next.
But Glad that He will be facing a good boxer now though not enough for the power of that Japanese boxer.
@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.
You're right, I was a little surprised, even though he is younger he has a good record. He competes a lot more, I don't know why that is.

Maybe Casimero's stamina is better, if there is a long match I think Casimero is better and will win. But this is only my prediction
But look at the record of His opponent,  20 wins with only 1 Loss when Casimero has 4 .









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May 14, 2021, 01:08:44 PM
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But look at the record of His opponent,  20 wins with only 1 Loss when Casimero has 4 .
yeah, the record shows Rigondeaux should be in the upper hand, but Rigondeaux is 40 years old and I watched his recent fight and his fight with Donaire eight years ago, you can see the decrease in aggressiveness, speed, and power in his last fight unlike when he fought Donaire where Rigondeaux dominated the fight. In this fight, Casimero has the upper hand because he is in his prime, he has speed, power, aggressiveness, stamina, and experience.

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May 14, 2021, 01:22:00 PM
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But look at the record of His opponent,  20 wins with only 1 Loss when Casimero has 4 .
yeah, the record shows Rigondeaux should be in the upper hand, but Rigondeaux is 40 years old and I watched his recent fight and his fight with Donaire eight years ago, you can see the decrease in aggressiveness, speed, and power in his last fight unlike when he fought Donaire where Rigondeaux dominated the fight. In this fight, Casimero has the upper hand because he is in his prime, he has speed, power, aggressiveness, stamina, and experience.
I would go with Rigondeaux in terms of experience but you are right, Casimero is in his prime now and he just beat a champion so I will not doubt him to win against Rigondeaux.  If Rigondeaux will be careless here, he might suffer what Tete suffered, it was just one mistake and the fight was over.

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@Luzin, Casimero has fought a lot of fighters with different styles, so the style of Rigondeaux is not new to him and for sure his camp has already prepared for it as he will surely want to defend his title. His biggest win in the last 5 years was a win against Tete, he was the underdog but he beat a taller and defensive Tete with his very careful strategy in the ring.

Casimero's moves are unpredictable because he has a different style than he usually bases on his opponent's movements so I guess it would be tough for Rigondeaux to defeat him. Casimero's style isn't uniform so Rigondeaux should use the allotted time to prepare for this fight.
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@Japinat, can you put a poll so we can vote. This is a big fight, I was watching some videos on youtube and have known how successful Rigondeaux is as a boxer. If we compare the achievement of Rigondeaux against Casimero and even Inoue, Rigondeaux is more successful in his career.

His only loss is against Lomachenko, so we can't really say that Casimero would easily win here, this is a tough challenge for Casimero and I think it's 50/50 that Casimero will win.

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