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Question: Who will win?
Casimero - 32 (88.9%)
Rigondeaux - 3 (8.3%)
Draw - 1 (2.8%)
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July 24, 2021, 02:23:26 PM
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Casimero throws a punch statement again against Rigo, well his usual style. Smiley

“When I beat Rigondeaux on August 14, he’s going to retire. He’s finished,” – Casimero
“I can guarantee that everyone is going to see the best of me on August 14. I perform best under the bright lights,” – Rigondeaux

Rigo is the slight favorite to win the match but some analysts are looking forward for Casimero's win via TKO on which I doubt will happen. For sure Rigo's defense will be surely more prioritized as he's not like before wherein he can throw strong body shots to his opponent while doing some good defense.

Surprised to see that Rigo is the slight favorite here, but it's going to be close, and yes Casimero has all the tools to knock out Rigo with one punch here. Yes Rigo can play defense the whole match, but it will just take one touches on him by Casimero to change the whole fight plan of him or the outcome of the match. Rigo no longer has that speed for a quick body punch, reload and then play defense. The chin of Casimero is also solid.

How can we say that Rigo is the slight favorite if the betting odds are not available yet?

What are your bases guys, I would like to know, maybe I missed something?

Actually, I've been waiting for the odds to be available already in my favorite bookies, but until now it's still not up.
So I would only believe Rigo is the slight favorite if I can confirm it through the betting odds.

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July 24, 2021, 11:43:48 PM
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Surprised to see that Rigo is the slight favorite here, but it's going to be close, and yes Casimero has all the tools to knock out Rigo with one punch here. Yes Rigo can play defense the whole match, but it will just take one touches on him by Casimero to change the whole fight plan of him or the outcome of the match. Rigo no longer has that speed for a quick body punch, reload and then play defense. The chin of Casimero is also solid.

I don't know how he becomes a favorite here I like to see the betting odds link where Rigondeaux is a slight favorite I think it's the other way around, this is a very important fight for both boxers Rigo is highly motivated I think he is more motivated now than the Loma fight because he is underestimated, we'll see if he will stand toe to toe against Casimero and proves he has the power and that power is more powerful than what Casimero has.

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July 24, 2021, 11:54:45 PM
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Casimero throws a punch statement again against Rigo, well his usual style. Smiley

“When I beat Rigondeaux on August 14, he’s going to retire. He’s finished,” – Casimero
“I can guarantee that everyone is going to see the best of me on August 14. I perform best under the bright lights,” – Rigondeaux

Rigo is the slight favorite to win the match but some analysts are looking forward for Casimero's win via TKO on which I doubt will happen. For sure Rigo's defense will be surely more prioritized as he's not like before wherein he can throw strong body shots to his opponent while doing some good defense.

Surprised to see that Rigo is the slight favorite here, but it's going to be close, and yes Casimero has all the tools to knock out Rigo with one punch here. Yes Rigo can play defense the whole match, but it will just take one touches on him by Casimero to change the whole fight plan of him or the outcome of the match. Rigo no longer has that speed for a quick body punch, reload and then play defense. The chin of Casimero is also solid.

How can we say that Rigo is the slight favorite if the betting odds are not available yet?

What are your bases guys, I would like to know, maybe I missed something?

Actually, I've been waiting for the odds to be available already in my favorite bookies, but until now it's still not up.
So I would only believe Rigo is the slight favorite if I can confirm it through the betting odds.

i believe it is only based on discussions as no bookies yet are listing this match. but checking some articles like this one , it says that rigo is the slight favourite here.

but it may change as some boxing analysts are looking at Casimero to win on this fight. maybe at the end of the month or early next month, we will see the odds hopefully in crypto bookies.

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July 25, 2021, 09:32:28 PM
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Casimero throws a punch statement again against Rigo, well his usual style. Smiley

“When I beat Rigondeaux on August 14, he’s going to retire. He’s finished,” – Casimero
“I can guarantee that everyone is going to see the best of me on August 14. I perform best under the bright lights,” – Rigondeaux

Rigo is the slight favorite to win the match but some analysts are looking forward for Casimero's win via TKO on which I doubt will happen. For sure Rigo's defense will be surely more prioritized as he's not like before wherein he can throw strong body shots to his opponent while doing some good defense.

Surprised to see that Rigo is the slight favorite here, but it's going to be close, and yes Casimero has all the tools to knock out Rigo with one punch here. Yes Rigo can play defense the whole match, but it will just take one touches on him by Casimero to change the whole fight plan of him or the outcome of the match. Rigo no longer has that speed for a quick body punch, reload and then play defense. The chin of Casimero is also solid.

How can we say that Rigo is the slight favorite if the betting odds are not available yet?

What are your bases guys, I would like to know, maybe I missed something?

Actually, I've been waiting for the odds to be available already in my favorite bookies, but until now it's still not up.
So I would only believe Rigo is the slight favorite if I can confirm it through the betting odds.

i believe it is only based on discussions as no bookies yet are listing this match. but checking some articles like this one , it says that rigo is the slight favourite here.

but it may change as some boxing analysts are looking at Casimero to win on this fight. maybe at the end of the month or early next month, we will see the odds hopefully in crypto bookies.

Depending on how reliable the site is, if they have a good reputation then I think we will likely see similar odds once it's listed in the sportsbook. Well, if you'll ask me, I like the betting odds of this fight as I'm betting on Casimero to win, +200 is a gift against an old champion versus a fighter that is in his prime.

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July 25, 2021, 10:53:46 PM
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Depending on how reliable the site is, if they have a good reputation then I think we will likely see similar odds once it's listed in the sportsbook. Well, if you'll ask me, I like the betting odds of this fight as I'm betting on Casimero to win, +200 is a gift against an old champion versus a fighter that is in his prime.

I assume you are betting on a fiat-based sportsbook here, as no crypto sportsbook has listed this yet.
The odds right now is good if you are betting for Casimero, whom I voted also to win this match.
As a younger boxer in this match, he has advantages but his reach is quite shorter than Rigo.
But do you think we will see toe-to-toe here? Rigo may just run and hug here.
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July 26, 2021, 05:56:56 PM
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Casimero to Rigondeux: Let’s engage‍ and fight

Another shot again from Casimero throwing a statement to Rigo.

This time, Casimero wants Rigo to fight him blow-by-blow. Meaning more pure punches to entertain the crowd. However, that should be Casimero's task, how to break Rigo's defense. There is no way Rigo will change his style. So if Casimero wants that solid exchange of punch, he should find a way to make Rigo not rely on his defense and will also put some show too.

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July 26, 2021, 09:23:50 PM
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Casimero to Rigondeux: Let’s engage‍ and fight

Another shot again from Casimero throwing a statement to Rigo.

This time, Casimero wants Rigo to fight him blow-by-blow. Meaning more pure punches to entertain the crowd. However, that should be Casimero's task, how to break Rigo's defense. There is no way Rigo will change his style. So if Casimero wants that solid exchange of punch, he should find a way to make Rigo not rely on his defense and will also put some show too.

"Rigondeux, fight me. Don’t run. I want a fight, you know. Because Rigondeux runs. People who are watching are sleeping." Cheesy


this is quite a challenge for rigo. but don't think that he will change his style, just like mayweather. there's a saying that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". so yeah, it is casimero's task to let Rigo engage during the fight. if casimero is really up to this game, he needs to finish the match in the first few rounds. don't let the fight go the distance, because rigo may just be counting here with points.

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July 26, 2021, 09:37:13 PM
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this is quite a challenge for rigo. but don't think that he will change his style, just like mayweather. there's a saying that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". so yeah, it is casimero's task to let Rigo engage during the fight. if casimero is really up to this game, he needs to finish the match in the first few rounds. don't let the fight go the distance, because rigo may just be counting here with points.

Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.
Casimero is a good boxer as well as Rigondeaux, they both have different style of fighting. I don't think Rigondeaux would be changing his distance and mitigation against an aggressive and offensive fighter.
Nevertheless, we somehow need trash talking sometimes to spice up the match lol.

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this is quite a challenge for rigo. but don't think that he will change his style, just like mayweather. there's a saying that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". so yeah, it is casimero's task to let Rigo engage during the fight. if casimero is really up to this game, he needs to finish the match in the first few rounds. don't let the fight go the distance, because rigo may just be counting here with points.

Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.
Casimero is a good boxer as well as Rigondeaux, they both have different style of fighting. I don't think Rigondeaux would be changing his distance and mitigation against an aggressive and offensive fighter.
Nevertheless, we somehow need trash talking sometimes to spice up the match lol.

We know that Casimero never runs, he is a true warrior, I'm so concerned with Rigondeaux's style as he might just run all night trying to score. For me, I believe Casimero will be able to slow him down as Rigondeaux is not getting any younger and Casimero is in his prime. With the months of training before this fight, I'm sure team Casimero had already prepared a strategy on how to beat Rigondeaux.

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Anyone here who think Rigondeaux  would win?

I just voted now and saw the big disparity of votes.

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Who will win?
Casimero 24
Rigondeaux 3

So we can assume that in this discussion, Casimero is the winner, and since the majority have voted for Casimero to win, then I guess it's just we should be confident in betting on Casimero to win once the odds is available.
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So we can assume that in this discussion, Casimero is the winner, and since the majority have voted for Casimero to win, then I guess it's just we should be confident in betting on Casimero to win once the odds is available.
Yeah, majority do sees for Casimero to win but it isn't really that a precise thing for you to rely on when it comes to your betting decisions but it would really be a big factor to consider on.

Some factors are being spot out which is mainly on age where theres really some big difference which majority is presuming that its one of the reason of disadvantage

but Rigo isn't an opponent for you to get confident. Being aggressive is good but it would always be having those cons.

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July 28, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
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Anyone here who think Rigondeaux  would win?

I just voted now and saw the big disparity of votes.

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Casimero 24
Rigondeaux 3

So we can assume that in this discussion, Casimero is the winner, and since the majority have voted for Casimero to win, then I guess it's just we should be confident in betting on Casimero to win once the odds is available.
Probably most of the boxing bettors and those who voted are majority Filipinos that's why the big disparity in votes. On the other side, Casimero has proven himself already having a belt, being brandish and loud mouth but he can back it up.

But in boxing and in any other sports, a upset can happen, so it's not guaranteed that Casimero will win, but the chance are very high.

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July 28, 2021, 12:13:08 PM
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Probably most of the boxing bettors and those who voted are majority Filipinos that's why the big disparity in votes. On the other side, Casimero has proven himself already having a belt, being brandish and loud mouth but he can back it up.

But in boxing and in any other sports, a upset can happen, so it's not guaranteed that Casimero will win, but the chance are very high.
That's probably the reason but I think that without any bias, Casimero can win against Rigondeaux in this match, I mean the aggressiveness of Casimero might make up for the difference that ihe is lacking plus it's not like these votes are uneducated or just pure bias.
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July 28, 2021, 12:21:52 PM
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Casimero throws a punch statement again against Rigo, well his usual style. Smiley

“When I beat Rigondeaux on August 14, he’s going to retire. He’s finished,” – Casimero
“I can guarantee that everyone is going to see the best of me on August 14. I perform best under the bright lights,” – Rigondeaux

Rigo is the slight favorite to win the match but some analysts are looking forward for Casimero's win via TKO on which I doubt will happen. For sure Rigo's defense will be surely more prioritized as he's not like before wherein he can throw strong body shots to his opponent while doing some good defense.
This is how boxers mostly react because at some point this is to hide their nervous facing a great contender lol.

Though casimero is well known on this kind of trashtalking not like other famous filipino boxers such as Manny Pacquiao and Nonito Donaire in which silent type until the fight comes.

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Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

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July 28, 2021, 02:51:30 PM
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Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

Casimero just trying to do everything to sell his fight, boxing is not forever, he understands that so he needs to do everything so his income will maximize before the time will come that he will retire. He has not made a lot of money in boxing yet, and he is in his prime now, so it's just right to promote his fight.

Maybe some do not like his style, but it's him, if we support our fighters, we should also promote him.
Pacquiao and Casimero are different in their style but their wins bring pride to our country.
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July 28, 2021, 04:02:43 PM
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Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

Casimero just trying to do everything to sell his fight, boxing is not forever, he understands that so he needs to do everything so his income will maximize before the time will come that he will retire. He has not made a lot of money in boxing yet, and he is in his prime now, so it's just right to promote his fight.

Maybe some do not like his style, but it's him, if we support our fighters, we should also promote him.
Pacquiao and Casimero are different in their style but their wins bring pride to our country.

Casimero has not lost a fight since 2018, and he is still young at 32 years old, so I will never doubt betting on him even if he will be listed as underdog in this fight. After his win in his last fight, this is the statement of Casimero.

https://sports.inquirer.net/405357/casimero-chasing-big-money-after-another-impressive-win

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But whoever he fights next, Casimero is not settling for loose change.

“Ayoko na lumaban ng maliit na kita. Kung maliit lang na kita, hindi na ako maglalaro,” said Casimero during Tuesday’s PSA Forum webcast.

This means he wants big fights that will generate big money, and he needs to sell the fight to generate big money.
Rigondeaux is a good opponent, he is a champion so probably it will also bring big money to the fight, but the biggest in the division is Inoue, so he needs to take care of the business by beating Rigondeaux.

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July 28, 2021, 11:57:39 PM
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Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

Casimero just trying to do everything to sell his fight, boxing is not forever, he understands that so he needs to do everything so his income will maximize before the time will come that he will retire. He has not made a lot of money in boxing yet, and he is in his prime now, so it's just right to promote his fight.

Maybe some do not like his style, but it's him, if we support our fighters, we should also promote him.
Pacquiao and Casimero are different in their style but their wins bring pride to our country.
Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out
without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.This is something been part of the behavior of a certain boxer and lets see that if those provocative words would really be on real
and not just on pure talks but basing on Casimeros fight history then i can really say that he had really those words to say on since he's a better fighter compared to Rigo.

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July 29, 2021, 01:36:44 AM
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Its impossible for a boxer not to consider on making money and some would really be focusing on building some hype and some would just have those words casually since they do know that they can still purse out without the need of those actings and trashtalking towards the opponent.

But some boxers are no choice sometimes so they will still accept small paychecks just to have a fight and build their names.

Casimero is a champion and I think he's already earning well every fight. He just wants more than his usual which might not easy to be granted since even for a champion, a name must be popular to make a market hype. A good PPV history is also a must so boxers are doing something interesting to sell the fight and that involves trashtalking the opponent.
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Caismero always talks like that. I don't know if he's either getting to the opponents head or he's just hyping the match up to sell it to the fans. Or he did it for both reasons.

I've read somewhere, (maybe here or some articles?) that according to Casimero's camp, his trashtalk is a way to promote the fight because Casimero itself doesn't know if he can generate good revenues from PPV or ticket sales. Maybe the majority of his fight wasn't able to yield good revenue. To confirm it (which I doubt sales aren't good) I will try to search for it or if anyone has statistics for it, I will be glad if it will be shared here.

No problem for trashtalks as long as he can prove it on the ring. It's just that it's unusual to see a PH boxer doing some trashtalk.

That's fine if Casimero wanted to trash talk to generate revenues for his fight, Rigo is answering back so let's see what happens. The problem is that this weight category is not dominated by US based fighters that's why it didn't get any attention.

Maybe it will not be one of the highest fight as far as PPV number goes, for sure it will be heavyweight, Fury vs Joshua vs Wilder, or Canelo or Pacquiao, but we hope that we will see a good fight at least and not a snoozer when Rigo starts to play defense and runs against Casimero.

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