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Question: Who will win?
Casimero - 32 (88.9%)
Rigondeaux - 3 (8.3%)
Draw - 1 (2.8%)
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August 13, 2021, 10:58:07 AM
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My bad, I should take that early odd which gave Casimero 1.44 than what it is now.

Just a 3% drop, still worth it if you really believe that Casimero would win this fight.

Still on stake, and nothing on Sportsbet yet.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo

No handicap betting yet, it might be available tomorrow since the fight is already in 2 days from now.

Waiting for the handicap betting as well, as I have said, ML is not that attractive and it the odds keeps on dropping, then surely not a good way to bet.

Speaking of handicap betting, what rounds you guys think that the fight will end? 8-9-10 for a Casimero win or 10-11-12 for a knock out?

I think it will be 4-5-6.  Smiley... I'm thinking of almost the same scenario against Tete where he knocks him out in round 3, I will give Rigo 3 more rounds though. Anyway, I don't really count it, it's just for fun as I don't underestimate Rigo, but if he will get caught by a clean punch, we know what will happen to him.

The Tete fight was also tough for Casimero but he went ballistic on round 3.

If Rigo is caught clean by Casimero, yeah possible that he will go down but maybe he can go up from the canvass and finish the fight. But he will go on full defense and turtle up just to last on this fight.

I'm sure this one hell of a fun fight, Casimero is so animated and then Rigo really focus and I would say that the trash talking could have been affecting him specially the 'retiring' word that Casimero is throwing on him.

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August 13, 2021, 11:36:28 AM
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My bad, I should take that early odd which gave Casimero 1.44 than what it is now.

Just a 3% drop, still worth it if you really believe that Casimero would win this fight.

Still on stake, and nothing on Sportsbet yet.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42107120-casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo

No handicap betting yet, it might be available tomorrow since the fight is already in 2 days from now.

Waiting for the handicap betting as well, as I have said, ML is not that attractive and it the odds keeps on dropping, then surely not a good way to bet.

Speaking of handicap betting, what rounds you guys think that the fight will end? 8-9-10 for a Casimero win or 10-11-12 for a knock out?

I think it will be 4-5-6.  Smiley... I'm thinking of almost the same scenario against Tete where he knocks him out in round 3, I will give Rigo 3 more rounds though. Anyway, I don't really count it, it's just for fun as I don't underestimate Rigo, but if he will get caught by a clean punch, we know what will happen to him.

The Tete fight was also tough for Casimero but he went ballistic on round 3.

If Rigo is caught clean by Casimero, yeah possible that he will go down but maybe he can go up from the canvass and finish the fight. But he will go on full defense and turtle up just to last on this fight.

I'm sure this one hell of a fun fight, Casimero is so animated and then Rigo really focus and I would say that the trash talking could have been affecting him specially the 'retiring' word that Casimero is throwing on him.

Rigondeaux seems so confident too when you see their face-off, Casimero just trash-talking him and if he is affected, that is good as we will see a great fight. Casimero even said, don't run, lol.. he knows the style of a defensive fighter so it will be a gift to the fans if we will see a toe-to-toe fight because of the trash-talking of casimero.

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August 13, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
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There's a little chance that Casimero would be KO, but I also like the chances because Rigondeaux was so angry against Casimero. The trash talking of Casimero seems so effective, and according to him, 1-3 rounds, he will kO Rigondeaux and send him to retirement.

have some fun watching their face off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMrUTqMnkk

that's pretty hilarious. i didn't know Rigondeaux is a 2-time gold medalist in Olympics. quite an achievement already before his pro career.

casimero is very confident with his game, it boosts his confidence when he thought that the boxers back away from fighting him like he is the most fearsome in his division. he sometimes sounds too proud but i gotta say he is a tough fighter.

they both show sportsmanship by shaking hands in the faceoff though. i don't think Rigondeaux totally angry, he must have understood that this is a marketing promo.


You are right, lol. I thought at the beginning he was angry but when I finish watching, they shook hands in the end and looks like Rigondeaux is happy to have a good fight against a prime boxer Casimero. He also understands that people do not anymore believe he can still dominate as the odds are telling he is a big underdog.
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August 13, 2021, 02:17:37 PM
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There's a little chance that Casimero would be KO, but I also like the chances because Rigondeaux was so angry against Casimero. The trash talking of Casimero seems so effective, and according to him, 1-3 rounds, he will kO Rigondeaux and send him to retirement.

have some fun watching their face off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMrUTqMnkk

that's pretty hilarious. i didn't know Rigondeaux is a 2-time gold medalist in Olympics. quite an achievement already before his pro career.

casimero is very confident with his game, it boosts his confidence when he thought that the boxers back away from fighting him like he is the most fearsome in his division. he sometimes sounds too proud but i gotta say he is a tough fighter.

they both show sportsmanship by shaking hands in the faceoff though. i don't think Rigondeaux totally angry, he must have understood that this is a marketing promo.


You are right, lol. I thought at the beginning he was angry but when I finish watching, they shook hands in the end and looks like Rigondeaux is happy to have a good fight against a prime boxer Casimero. He also understands that people do not anymore believe he can still dominate as the odds are telling he is a big underdog.

Both are good artists, I don't even think that Casimero is really serious with his trash-talking, he was just smiling every time he talks, so it's really just part of the marketing strategy, nothing is serious here, what's serious is when they are in the ring and they'll give their everything.

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August 14, 2021, 06:28:56 PM
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In less than 24 hours, we will see the awaited fight.

Looks like the odds have moved a bit.

Casimero to win 1.55
win by KO 1.93
win by decision 6.00

Rigondeaux  to win 2.45
win by KO 9.80
win by decision 3.05

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-rigondeux-guillermo-611363bce37fe37930dcf191
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August 14, 2021, 06:50:43 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy

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August 14, 2021, 06:56:27 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
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Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

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August 14, 2021, 07:05:43 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

Most probably it's a KO win by Casimero, he won his last 6 fights through KO, so it's possible that the trend may continue. Just bet for fun as we don't know what would exactly happen, but betting on high odds makes this fight very interesting to watch.

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August 14, 2021, 07:34:52 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

There are no round ranges in the betting odds of sportsbet, I'm looking for a rounds 1-3, 4-6, so on and so forth bet. It's hard to predict in a particular round as Rigondeaux though does not have a high KO percentage is still very active in the ring, I think he is even faster than Casimero.
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August 14, 2021, 07:43:20 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

Most probably it's a KO win by Casimero, he won his last 6 fights through KO, so it's possible that the trend may continue. Just bet for fun as we don't know what would exactly happen, but betting on high odds makes this fight very interesting to watch.

I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.
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August 14, 2021, 08:30:49 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

There are no round ranges in the betting odds of sportsbet, I'm looking for a rounds 1-3, 4-6, so on and so forth bet. It's hard to predict in a particular round as Rigondeaux though does not have a high KO percentage is still very active in the ring, I think he is even faster than Casimero.

I'm also looking like in the middle rounds that Casimero will stop Rigondeaux. Timing is more important that speed and since you said that Rigondeaux doesn't have power and Casimero has a good chin, I don't see him putting a dent on Casimero here. The only problem I see is that if the fight goes to the distance, maybe Casimero doesn't have that strength because he also throw big punches that might drain him as the fight goes like 6-12 rounds.
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August 14, 2021, 08:33:56 PM
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Last call for those who have not put their bet yet.

Casimero to win by decision is quite attractive too, but since everyone is expecting that if he will win, he could win by KO, then I think there's a little percentage that he will win if this fight goes to distance.

I hope there's a live streaming link here.  Cheesy
I have already put up bets on 3.  Cheesy

Casimero win
Win via KO
Win via decision.

Yeah it would add up on total bet amount but you can patch up if ever it would hit up that via decision bet.
I did make some balance though. Its indeed attractive but I don't agree that if this fight would goes to distance, he could still able to manage it.

There are no round ranges in the betting odds of sportsbet, I'm looking for a rounds 1-3, 4-6, so on and so forth bet. It's hard to predict in a particular round as Rigondeaux though does not have a high KO percentage is still very active in the ring, I think he is even faster than Casimero.

I'm also looking like in the middle rounds that Casimero will stop Rigondeaux. Timing is more important that speed and since you said that Rigondeaux doesn't have power and Casimero has a good chin, I don't see him putting a dent on Casimero here. The only problem I see is that if the fight goes to the distance, maybe Casimero doesn't have that strength because he also throw big punches that might drain him as the fight goes like 6-12 rounds.

If it goes to distance, that means Casimero is not hitting Rigondeaux that's why in the betting odds available, Rigondeaux has a lower odds which means he has a higher chance of winning the fight. Rigondeaux is a defensive fight, Casimero should find a way to hurt him and possibly KO him not later than 6 rounds.

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August 14, 2021, 08:37:37 PM
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I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.

Sometimes statistics doesn't matter especially when an opponent had a very good preparations to counter his fighting style.
Though, statistics is one of the sources to get the match up odds.
Well, I can say the odds are pretty balanced. But anyone who bets on Rigondeaux isn't a bad decision after all. I mean the old man will surely have his plan on how he's going to stand an aggressive fighter like Casimero.
However, Casimero's stamina is very vital for this fight If he decides to go for his usual aggressive style.

We have a few hours left before the fight. Good luck to ya'll bets.
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August 14, 2021, 08:44:45 PM
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I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.

Sometimes statistics doesn't matter especially when an opponent had a very good preparations to counter his fighting style.
Though, statistics is one of the sources to get the match up odds.
Well, I can say the odds are pretty balanced. But anyone who bets on Rigondeaux isn't a bad decision after all. I mean the old man will surely have his plan on how he's going to stand an aggressive fighter like Casimero.
However, Casimero's stamina is very vital for this fight If he decides to go for his usual aggressive style.

We have a few hours left before the fight. Good luck to ya'll bets.
The day has come and I have to agree that the result is not just based on numbers of who are with advantage since the opponent of Casimeros is not an easy boxer as well but if Casimero becomes more active he can beat his opponent. I’m excited for this one, few more hours for this match.

Casimero is always been an active boxer, his timing is good and he is durable as well. I'm looking at the betting odds now, Suddenly there's a change on Rigo to win by KO, it was x16 when I open it, and now it's only x11.. anyway, I'm just saying, what I like now is the odds of Casimero at 1.56.



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August 14, 2021, 09:02:30 PM
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I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.

Sometimes statistics doesn't matter especially when an opponent had a very good preparations to counter his fighting style.
Though, statistics is one of the sources to get the match up odds.
Well, I can say the odds are pretty balanced. But anyone who bets on Rigondeaux isn't a bad decision after all. I mean the old man will surely have his plan on how he's going to stand an aggressive fighter like Casimero.
However, Casimero's stamina is very vital for this fight If he decides to go for his usual aggressive style.

We have a few hours left before the fight. Good luck to ya'll bets.
The day has come and I have to agree that the result is not just based on numbers of who are with advantage since the opponent of Casimeros is not an easy boxer as well but if Casimero becomes more active he can beat his opponent. I’m excited for this one, few more hours for this match.

Casimero is always been an active boxer, his timing is good and he is durable as well. I'm looking at the betting odds now, Suddenly there's a change on Rigo to win by KO, it was x16 when I open it, and now it's only x11.. anyway, I'm just saying, what I like now is the odds of Casimero at 1.56.

It's normal that it will move as we are less than 24 hours before the fight will start.

By the way, do we have a list of the undercard of this fight and if there is, do we have a betting sites that has an odds of the specific fights.

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August 14, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
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I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

Betting on Casimero here so waiting also for the results of this match. It is nice that crypto sportsbooks list this just about couple of days before the fight. I thought it will not make it in crypto bookies. I hope they will give us at least an entertaining fight because Rigo has the tendency not to show a toe-to-toe one here.
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August 14, 2021, 09:24:39 PM
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I still have that memory of Rigondeaux losing to Lomachecnko he can be out of control and lose focus when he is dominated and cannot hit, this could happen again, against a fighter like Casimero who can frustrate you with his movement and Powershot, and the long inactivity will have a big impact on his performance.

Since he already experiences that kind of feeling, he is fully aware now of what he will do.

I'm with Casimero here, as a countryman but he should treat Rigondeaux as a threat to his legacy.

40 years of age with only 1 loss, that's how that boxer able to maintain his good record over years.

Betting on Casimero here so waiting also for the results of this match. It is nice that crypto sportsbooks list this just about couple of days before the fight. I thought it will not make it in crypto bookies. I hope they will give us at least an entertaining fight because Rigo has the tendency not to show a toe-to-toe one here.
See that sportbook as well and its a good thing since many are anticipating this match that will happen in a few hours. I’m placing my bet now on Casimero, he should win on this one and I’m confident about it, though KO might not be possible we will see, Casimero is a great and active boxer, he should do that in the ring later.
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August 14, 2021, 09:40:16 PM
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Betting on Casimero here so waiting also for the results of this match. It is nice that crypto sportsbooks list this just about couple of days before the fight. I thought it will not make it in crypto bookies. I hope they will give us at least an entertaining fight because Rigo has the tendency not to show a toe-to-toe one here.

I have a feeling that this would be an entertaining fight even if Rigo refuses to come out of his shell because Casimero is a born entertainer. He might be cocky but he would do everything in his power just to fulfill what he had promised in the interviews. He bowed to knockout Rigo inside three rounds, we expect fireworks in the opening bell of this fight and that could be entertaining. 
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August 14, 2021, 09:57:09 PM
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I will just bet for John Riel Casimero to win over Guillermo Rigondeaux, Casimero is the favorite here if you would look at what advantage does John Riel Casimero have over Rigondeaux you will see a huge difference in their experience, Casimero is just 32 Year old, but already have 34 fights, 30 wins and 4 loses, while Rigondeaux is age 40 does only have a total fight of 22, 20 wins and 1 loses, and if we look on the KO percentage 21 KO's (61.76%) and Rigondeaux 13 KO's (59.09%) Stake.com's odd is Casimero 1.52 and Rigondeaux 2.49 even though Rigondeaux has the height and reach advantage over Casimero, I still believe that John Riel Casimero will win this.

Sometimes statistics doesn't matter especially when an opponent had a very good preparations to counter his fighting style.
Though, statistics is one of the sources to get the match up odds.
Well, I can say the odds are pretty balanced. But anyone who bets on Rigondeaux isn't a bad decision after all. I mean the old man will surely have his plan on how he's going to stand an aggressive fighter like Casimero.
However, Casimero's stamina is very vital for this fight If he decides to go for his usual aggressive style.

We have a few hours left before the fight. Good luck to ya'll bets.

Well, we as gamblers and we are  speculating what may happen inside the ring and giving the statistics are one of those things to simply know who's going to win, and added with their previews fights and comparing whos's their previews fights and comparing if they have a great performance with that fights, and this is a way to really know a boxer real potential,

I really think that John Riel Casimero will also take the aggressive stance to win against Rigondeaux the odds is really for Casimero and I think many are seeing the potential for John Riel Casimero winning this.
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August 14, 2021, 11:05:36 PM
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I have a feeling that this would be an entertaining fight even if Rigo refuses to come out of his shell because Casimero is a born entertainer. He might be cocky but he would do everything in his power just to fulfill what he had promised in the interviews. He bowed to knockout Rigo inside three rounds, we expect fireworks in the opening bell of this fight and that could be entertaining. 

That's not how Casimero fights in the ring, Casimero sized up his opponent in the early rounds and measure the distance and the power of his opponent, he is good at finding angle and timing, and with Rigo, he will have to work hard because I expect him to run and avoid to engage, the outcome of the match depends on how Rigo performs will he run or will he engage.

I hope my favorite sports page will broadcast this match will post the link here when they posted the live event, I hope others will do too if they have a link to the live event, this is a must-see fight.

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