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May 06, 2021, 08:32:21 AM
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So it sounds more or less dictator country rather than the democratic! Reminds me of movie dictatorship, lolz. The man takes the decision of every thing within his country and the money, well has so much he could just buy another country with it.

African politicians are more or less know very well that African people so poor and uneducated that it will take whole lot of efforts and money to develop the nation. They have set up their mindset on corrupting the country rather developing it. Because - that's the most simplest thing they can do.

Moreover, Africa is big continent and lot of ways to develop it. The one who holds more money will rule the big mass of land. Thats what will happen in a decade or so.
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May 06, 2021, 09:10:05 AM
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        Forget Dangote and the rest of the billionaires, the richest people in Africa are politicians. Africans need to reevaluate and rethink their system, so much power is given to the politicians and without any checks or balances. How can an ex-governor not be tried in court for his mischievous activities because there is a written document that said so who signed the documents is it the populace? They loot millions of dollars and stack them up for their families whereas the masses are suffering.
        They even go as far as banning the trading of cryptocurrencies because they feel people might benefit from it. When the world is enjoying it. African needs to be taken to the hospital and given proper treatment because they are moving backward. More strength to their youth as many are still thriving in the harsh environment.
This tangy of respect and the clear division of riches and poverty weaves in the pot I don't find anything strange either, and do you think the great nations are holding back their development, and they will not be able to reach out because the upper classes have complete control of everything. It may take many years for us to see a better Africa than it is today, and that costs a lot of money, not a reconstruction of each nation's political systems.

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May 06, 2021, 09:40:16 AM
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       Forget Dangote and the rest of the billionaires, the richest people in Africa are politicians. Africans need to reevaluate and rethink their system, so much power is given to the politicians and without any checks or balances. How can an ex-governor not be tried in court for his mischievous activities because there is a written document that said so who signed the documents is it the populace? They loot millions of dollars and stack them up for their families whereas the masses are suffering.
        They even go as far as banning the trading of cryptocurrencies because they feel people might benefit from it. When the world is enjoying it. African needs to be taken to the hospital and given proper treatment because they are moving backward. More strength to their youth as many are still thriving in the harsh environment.



I typically see Africans and others who are becoming "advanced or modern" as those moving backward.. When anyone wakes up from sleep, he/she realizes this truth as well. Everything is turned upside down in the Matrix.

The one who controls the matrix controls the world's politicians. Puppets are simply playing the role of the puppet master. If you fight his puppets, you will likely fail or have lots of problems. The best thing is to create a society he can't control and to have your own truely chosen leaders to guide and lead you... Else you are part of the Matrix and slaves of the one who controls it

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May 06, 2021, 10:24:33 AM
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If we don't raise a generation any different from the generation that raised us then corruption isn't going to go anywhere. And if people that will precede this corrupt people is going to do a different thing and not be corrupted then corruption is going to be destroyed slowly but surely.

I'm afraid that's just impossible. It's in human's nature, I doubt it will ever change.  Entire human history is a story about greed and corruption. By the way, that's exactly why USSR failed in their dream about communist society where everyone gives to the extent of his abilities and receives anything he wants.

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May 06, 2021, 11:41:57 AM
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If we don't raise a generation any different from the generation that raised us then corruption isn't going to go anywhere. And if people that will precede this corrupt people is going to do a different thing and not be corrupted then corruption is going to be destroyed slowly but surely.

I'm afraid that's just impossible. It's in human's nature, I doubt it will ever change.  Entire human history is a story about greed and corruption. By the way, that's exactly why USSR failed in their dream about communist society where everyone gives to the extent of his abilities and receives anything he wants.

Money is root of all evil so this kinda expected and itsnso hard now to eliminate the corruption since it already became a tradition unto that country, Maybe the least citizen can do is to choose next time the best leader what they since if they pick another corrupt official this corruption issues will no end.

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May 06, 2021, 11:46:27 AM
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I'm afraid that's just impossible. It's in human's nature, I doubt it will ever change.  Entire human history is a story about greed and corruption. By the way, that's exactly why USSR failed in their dream about communist society where everyone gives to the extent of his abilities and receives anything he wants.
I believe that we can reach that point, yes the human nature is pretty selfish but if little by little we raise at least a small percentage of generation that is virtuous, I think that it is enough because they know what to do, they raise more of it and lead. The problem with the USSR is that it landed on the hands of Stalin and almost everyone on the position of power is power hungry.

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May 06, 2021, 12:49:11 PM
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        Forget Dangote and the rest of the billionaires, the richest people in Africa are politicians. Africans need to reevaluate and rethink their system, so much power is given to the politicians and without any checks or balances. How can an ex-governor not be tried in court for his mischievous activities because there is a written document that said so who signed the documents is it the populace? They loot millions of dollars and stack them up for their families whereas the masses are suffering.
        They even go as far as banning the trading of cryptocurrencies because they feel people might benefit from it. When the world is enjoying it. African needs to be taken to the hospital and given proper treatment because they are moving backward. More strength to their youth as many are still thriving in the harsh environment.

I can quite agree with you. The system in Africa indeed has to change for it clearly is not working. Too bad though, we cannot do anything unless we are the ones to vote there. And even if we are, how much can we amount to when the people there themselves do not even vite for the country but for themselves. For their selfish biefs. People in Africa needs to set aside their own religious crap along with their other biases and vote wisely for the whole country. Change can only start if they stop complaining and actually start doing it within themselves.
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May 06, 2021, 02:24:39 PM
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I'm afraid that's just impossible. It's in human's nature, I doubt it will ever change.  Entire human history is a story about greed and corruption. By the way, that's exactly why USSR failed in their dream about communist society where everyone gives to the extent of his abilities and receives anything he wants.
I believe that we can reach that point, yes the human nature is pretty selfish but if little by little we raise at least a small percentage of generation that is virtuous, I think that it is enough because they know what to do, they raise more of it and lead. The problem with the USSR is that it landed on the hands of Stalin and almost everyone on the position of power is power hungry.
it seems that greed and corruption are problems for every country, even though the death penalty is imposed, this seems to have become a human trait that tends to have no satisfaction in itself, making it a greedy human being. but in every country, of course, there are various ways to reduce these human vices, and I am sure that the future will be better
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May 06, 2021, 05:41:48 PM
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If we don't raise a generation any different from the generation that raised us then corruption isn't going to go anywhere. And if people that will precede this corrupt people is going to do a different thing and not be corrupted then corruption is going to be destroyed slowly but surely.
I really wish for that, but it’s going to be a really difficult thing as any one of them that goes into politics gets corrupted by the evil leaders that are already there and they end up being the same people. When a good sheep finds itself in the midst of corrupt sheep, there are many chances that it will turn out to be the same.

But, all we can do is hope. Although I do think that sometimes it’s up to the people, the leaders are just like a reflection of what we are. And when we don’t hold these people responsible for bad stuffs they do, things will continue to be worse. So it’s up to us as the people to always react and fight against bad leadership.
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May 06, 2021, 07:12:28 PM
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       Forget Dangote and the rest of the billionaires, the richest people in Africa are politicians. Africans need to reevaluate and rethink their system, so much power is given to the politicians and without any checks or balances. How can an ex-governor not be tried in court for his mischievous activities because there is a written document that said so who signed the documents is it the populace? They loot millions of dollars and stack them up for their families whereas the masses are suffering.
        They even go as far as banning the trading of cryptocurrencies because they feel people might benefit from it. When the world is enjoying it. African needs to be taken to the hospital and given proper treatment because they are moving backward. More strength to their youth as many are still thriving in the harsh environment.

Sadly there is little hope for countries that have not gotten their act together already. Many countries in Africa are either crippled by in-fighting, or (as you say) the politicians are flooded with money from overseas. First it was "western" countries that used to ferment unrest and make major profit from the locals, many of those countries have cleaned up their act a tiny bit - in the form of anti-bribery and corruption laws that apply to their people everywhere. That just left a small void which has since been filled by less than ethical countries like China. China is a rising power and will take advantage of any country that can be useful. They will happily take over assets like ports (which can help their fishing fleets) or mining operations, in return for things like rail infrastructure improvements. These improvements do help, but cost huge sums and of course the officials get ridiculously high pay offs. Cryptocurrency will do a lot to help the average person in Africa who do not have access to banking and need secure ways to store digital currency, however they do need access to reliable internet services to achieve this as well.

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May 06, 2021, 08:42:31 PM
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I believe that we can reach that point, yes the human nature is pretty selfish but if little by little we raise at least a small percentage of generation that is virtuous, I think that it is enough because they know what to do, they raise more of it and lead. The problem with the USSR is that it landed on the hands of Stalin and almost everyone on the position of power is power hungry.
There is the discussion. Everyone talks about soviet union, venezuela, china, cuba and many other places and say that it is a failed communist state and nobody talks about the fact that ALL the power is at the hands of the few. Anyone who read animal farm would know that communism starts great but then becomes horrible because people who are at the top is untouchable and anything that they say is the law. As long as that continues, it will always be a problem. Same goes for most other nations as well.

I know europe is not bad about this, they are doing alright, and even USA is doing "decent" by most nation standards because they can at least change their presidents whenever they want to vote that person out (which happened recently). However there are so many nations where there is one person and they keep becoming president for life, and that is the real trouble.

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There is the discussion. Everyone talks about soviet union, venezuela, china, cuba and many other places and say that it is a failed communist state and nobody talks about the fact that ALL the power is at the hands of the few. Anyone who read animal farm would know that communism starts great but then becomes horrible because people who are at the top is untouchable and anything that they say is the law. As long as that continues, it will always be a problem. Same goes for most other nations as well.

I find it kind of funny when I see George Orwell (who was writing his books - fiction books - as a warning to society he lived in) being referred to as a source of knowledge about communism Smiley And you are quite wrong about being untouchable too. I'd elaborate on that but this would be offtopic for this thread.

I know europe is not bad about this, they are doing alright, and even USA is doing "decent" by most nation standards because they can at least change their presidents whenever they want to vote that person out (which happened recently). However there are so many nations where there is one person and they keep becoming president for life, and that is the real trouble.

How many years is Merkel at power? And Helmut Kohl before her? Or Bush family? Mind you, I'm not pointing fingers, just trying to say that everywhere is more or less the same. We live in imperialistic (refer to Marx for clear definition) world that is ruled by capital. Presidents are just the store front.

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May 07, 2021, 03:52:04 AM
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This map carries a lot of incorrect information, I wonder who created it. Besides, it's over 10 years old.

Got it from Wikipedia, so it is not entirely reliable. But the information is at least 90% correct. A majority of the African countries are shown to be under some form of dictatorship (either military or civilian). Countries such as Chad and Sudan are still under military dictatorships, while military leaders have been overthrown from some countries such as Zimbabwe. But it gives an overall picture. The number of military dictatorships is much higher in Africa, when compared to any other region in the world.

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it seems that greed and corruption are problems for every country, even though the death penalty is imposed, this seems to have become a human trait that tends to have no satisfaction in itself, making it a greedy human being. but in every country, of course, there are various ways to reduce these human vices, and I am sure that the future will be better
The problem is that these corrupt people are doing what they want because they know that they have connections that are so powerful that they are deemed untouchable. If the people woke up from all the bullshit that these corrupt people serve, I am sure that we will be able to slowly destroy corruption.

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Is it like that just in Africa?!

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Rodolphe Archibald Reiss (8 July 1875 – 7 August 1929) was a German-Swiss criminology-pioneer, forensic scientist, professor, and writer. When Serbia was overrun in 1915 he joined the Serbian Army in its retreat across Albania to return with the victorious Serbian Army when it liberated Belgrade in the final days of the war. He was known as a great friend of Serbia and the Serbian people and after the war decided to stay and live in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia... As a legacy to the Serbian people, he left an unpublished manuscript Ecoutez les Serbes! "Listen Serbs!"

So this guy wrote that manuscript, it's an interesting story... and there is one part about the government people... "I do not know a single minister who did not get rich during his term"!
He wrote that 100 years ago, and I think it's still the same! Nothing changed... People get into politics to get rich or to keep their wealth safe because these politicians are controlling the police, the military, and of course all sort of secret agencies!
I guess I understand why the richest people in Africa are politicians or close with them... it's the same here in my country. How to change that? What needs to happen? People to wake up?! I am not sure about that part...

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there has to be an economic development on some part for people to realize the inequality in the area that they will revolt against the ruling politicians. but then most of the native Africans got used to it already which is much harder to make them get out of that realm. they have been that way for many generations and the new generations already see it as normal. 









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That will happen if the government is literally corrupt and knowing African continent ? yeah they are the Most corrupt government in the world so No wonder why their politicians are the richest in their kind.

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May 08, 2021, 06:43:28 AM
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That will happen if the government is literally corrupt and knowing African continent ? yeah they are the Most corrupt government in the world so No wonder why their politicians are the richest in their kind.

if they will change the  system then they will  change the continent .
they seem to extract the wealth of the country which was previously for the prosperity of the people and now for personal gain. therefore it is not surprising that the number of poor people is increasing. and I think there must be an opposition party to bring him down

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Corruption is one of the vital reason why africa is developing slow. I believe in their people but the officials there are so abusive in power. Another one is education should be one of the most prioritize project in the continent. I believe if people of their residence know more about their current situation, they will strive more and will try to pursue the developments where they should be.
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May 08, 2021, 04:51:57 PM
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As long as corruption has an effect the continent of Africa cannot be fixed there is a lot of inequality between rich and poor. Wealthy people do not interfere in everything in the case of politicians one example of corruption is tax evasion which reduces government resources the lost tax income may be invested in a productive project tax evasion on the african continent hinders growth because of inadequate taxes the government cannot increase public investment in public welfare which the private sector never does. In addition inadequate government investment in the infrastructure sector discourages private investment in the productive sector.
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