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May 07, 2021, 08:44:23 PM
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Let us not forget him. Let us not forget the injustice done. Let us not forget, above all, the love of freedom!

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May 08, 2021, 06:15:25 AM
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The case, which sentenced Ross to life in prison, may be a little unfair.
If he had not presented himself as a victim in court, he might have had a chance to be released and the verdict changed.
But it is interesting to me that he did not have any victims in court. However, I do not think you have chosen the right place to publish this issue.
It might not be unfair but I think he is finally doing good in the prison last time I checked about a story about him. I don't think that if he did otherwise, I think that it will end up for him the same because this is the biggest catch of FBI in cybercrime and they want to make it look like a real success.
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May 08, 2021, 06:28:09 AM
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Let us not forget him. Let us not forget the injustice done. Let us not forget, above all, the love of freedom!

https://freeross.org/

You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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May 08, 2021, 06:34:58 AM
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Have you read some of the stuff he writes about while locked up? Such a great mind wasted. There was obviously criminal stuff that happened however with all the shady stuff that came after with the powers that be; it should void everything.
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May 08, 2021, 06:43:00 AM
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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody.

I think that there is a strong possibility that one of those corrupt agents on the case framed him.

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May 08, 2021, 06:57:02 AM
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He's one of the examples why Satoshi's identity should continue to be kept private. Ross received a way harsher sentence than he should've received. I believe that the intel has looked in-depth for him and this case happened so that people would be scared of trying to go off-grid with Tor and Bitcoin.

I can't say he's innocent, of course. But something is definitely weird about his case and I think it's the intel who wanted to scare people off. We have to remember that Bitcoin and Tor give us together a way towards economical freedom we've never had before, and we know how bad of an image BTC had back before 2016-2017. They tried their best to stop it, they couldn't and now they're joining us because if you can't fight it, you have to join it.
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May 08, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
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Yeah dude, remember the time that he hired someone to try and kill the people that might cause him a problem. Not to mention that Silkroad's primary product at that time were drugs, this drugs that destroys a person. Him opening the way for drug traffickers to expand their customer doesn't really ring good in my ears.
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May 08, 2021, 10:21:41 AM
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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody.

I think that there is a strong possibility that one of those corrupt agents on the case framed him.

Sure they framed him. They even trapped him to do what he did and they got caught. Nevertheless he thought he was acting just like a kingpin of a drug empire would. He didn't deserve this long sentence though.

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He didn't deserve this long sentence though.

As far as I know this is pretty much the main problem with Ross Ulbricht's case, not necessarily the fact that he was imprisoned. I mean, actual killers and rapists have had far less prison time than Ulbricht's absurd double life + 40 yrs without parole sentence. His life sentence was as if he caused a new Holocaust.

I'm convinced that the drawn-out prison sentence was more of a message.

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May 08, 2021, 12:23:11 PM
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As far as I know this is pretty much the main problem with Ross Ulbricht's case, not necessarily the fact that he was imprisoned. I mean, actual killers and rapists have had far less prison time than Ulbricht's absurd double life + 40 yrs without parole sentence. His life sentence was as if he caused a new Holocaust.

I'm convinced that the drawn-out prison sentence was more of a message.

Anybody who followed the story about SilkRoad and Ross Ulbritch knows that it was not just one guy called Dread Pirate Roberts but it was more people behind that pseudonym and not just Ross.

I agree with you that administration wanted to make an example from Ross Ulbritch and send clear message to everyone who would dare to make open free marketplace like that again in future.
I also doubt in any proof claiming that he kingpin who was thinking of ordering some murders, and we know that some dirty agents got arrested in this case that makes everything dirty.

Double life sentence for Ross should be reduced but I doubt this will happen because current US administration is just a continuation of one that sentenced Ross.
I am not familiar with US law but I believe that after failed appeal only hope left for Ross is that US president pardons him, however I don't expect to see this from Biden.

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May 08, 2021, 01:14:42 PM
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Double life sentence for Ross should be reduced but I doubt this will happen because current US administration is just a continuation of one that sentenced Ross.
I am not familiar with US law but I believe that after failed appeal only hope left for Ross is that US president pardons him, however I don't expect to see this from Biden.

Yea, that's quite the unfortunate truth. And knowing that people in general outside of bitcoin/crypto don't even know Ross(compared to the likes of Julian Assange and Edward Snowden which are known by a lot of people), the chances of a pardon is extremely slim.

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May 08, 2021, 01:27:39 PM
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The case, which sentenced Ross to life in prison, may be a little unfair.
If he had not presented himself as a victim in court, he might have had a chance to be released and the verdict changed.
But it is interesting to me that he did not have any victims in court. However, I do not think you have chosen the right place to publish this issue.

Regardless of the motive for the punishment he received, we honestly see that there is some kind of legal injustice being applied. someone trying to cover up the truth and it's plain to see. but speculation alone is not enough, and we don't have much evidence of the sentence he received. who will be responsible? everyone will fear the law that is not transparent.

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May 08, 2021, 03:17:53 PM
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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
It is a version by the authorities to make him look like a monster and i still believe that because the way in which his trail went and the insane sentence he got. He could have got out if he came clean with a smaller sentence if he accepted his mistakes but he never choose to do so and so is the reason he is punished harshly and i think it was not a fair sentencing.

Yes he created a site and anyone who used the site got out with smaller sentencing and you still think it is a fair sentencing ?.
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May 08, 2021, 04:20:08 PM
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He was young and impulsive, so no wonder a professional agent pushed him towards trying to murder someone. I'm personally feeling sympathetic towards Ross because I don't think that running a website where adult people buy what they see fit (largely drugs), and the truly terrible stuff like child porn was NOT sold on his website. He's been in prison for too long already for something that I'm not sure deserves a prison sentence at all (not legally speaking, but morally speaking), while there are truly ridiculous cases like the Abu Ghraib prison where people were tortured, treated very inhumanely and killed, but the biggest sentence to a bunch of convicted war criminals was the main guy getting only 10 years (!) of prison and being released early after 6.5 years. So I don't see how after that, double life inprisonment + 40 years is a just sentence for Ross.

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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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Have those chatlogs been made public in court documents? I'm not really sure how the general public found out about them if law enforcement seized/intercepted these logs but then didn't provide them as evidence.



Does anyone else find the idea of a "double life sentence" or a "life sentence + some years" nonsensical? Because the prisoner is dead by the time the first life sentence is finished.

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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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love of freedom!
really fits.

Have those chatlogs been made public in court documents? I'm not really sure how the general public found out about them if law enforcement seized/intercepted these logs but then didn't provide them as evidence.



Does anyone else find the idea of a "double life sentence" or a "life sentence + some years" nonsensical? Because the prisoner is dead by the time the first life sentence is finished.

Somewhere here: https://antilop.cc/sr/

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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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love of freedom!
really fits.

Have those chatlogs been made public in court documents? I'm not really sure how the general public found out about them if law enforcement seized/intercepted these logs but then didn't provide them as evidence.



Does anyone else find the idea of a "double life sentence" or a "life sentence + some years" nonsensical? Because the prisoner is dead by the time the first life sentence is finished.

Somewhere here: https://antilop.cc/sr/

Dude, just look at the address of the bitcoin wallet created by the FBI to retrieve the coins from Ross's computer on that same site. the address remains active today, with numerous transactions.
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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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love of freedom!
really fits.

Have those chatlogs been made public in court documents? I'm not really sure how the general public found out about them if law enforcement seized/intercepted these logs but then didn't provide them as evidence.



Does anyone else find the idea of a "double life sentence" or a "life sentence + some years" nonsensical? Because the prisoner is dead by the time the first life sentence is finished.

Somewhere here: https://antilop.cc/sr/

Dude, just look at the address of the bitcoin wallet created by the FBI to retrieve the coins from Ross's computer on that same site. the address remains active today, with numerous transactions.

Is it true and are the sources publicly available that he ordered to kill people? We might underestimate in that regard and honestly if that is true, that's a no go. I didn't know he is that brutal assuming it is correct. Otherwise the penalty is insane.
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You might change your mind about Ross, when you read the chatlogs from his computer. Esp. the parts where he ordered to kill various people and his reaction, when he knew about the deaths, which actually never took place, but he definitely THOUGHT he ordered to kill somebody. Not sure if
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love of freedom!
really fits.

Have those chatlogs been made public in court documents? I'm not really sure how the general public found out about them if law enforcement seized/intercepted these logs but then didn't provide them as evidence.



Does anyone else find the idea of a "double life sentence" or a "life sentence + some years" nonsensical? Because the prisoner is dead by the time the first life sentence is finished.

Somewhere here: https://antilop.cc/sr/

Dude, just look at the address of the bitcoin wallet created by the FBI to retrieve the coins from Ross's computer on that same site. the address remains active today, with numerous transactions.

Is it true and are the sources publicly available that he ordered to kill people? We might underestimate in that regard and honestly if that is true, that's a no go. I didn't know he is that brutal assuming it is correct. Otherwise the penalty is insane.

You can find out everything by yourself here: https://antilop.cc/sr/#exhibit
The torchats with vj/cimon are the ones you want to look for.

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he did order the hit as what the documentary says. i did watch almost 5 documentaries about him and silkroad, it was a great journey we know he has great views on things. i really do think he doesn't have a personality who would kill like the bosses on the Mexican cartel. he didn't even bother to see if there was news about the death of the person he ordered the hit. i do think the sentence is too much.

just so you guys know. this is his assumed account. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3905
he was traced base on his post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47811.msg568744#msg568744 by the guy who spent time trying to google frosty and dpr.




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