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June 22, 2021, 07:37:27 PM
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Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and   and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained,  then more money can be achieved.
It would really be called as career and not all would really be having that financial capacity or capability on sustaining himself on playing betting on sports for a very long time to make himself good at it even though it isnt really that right to make out conclusions but only a few do really succeed on this one and most or majority is really failing off.

Addiction does signify excessive involvement on a certain thing but i do agree that it does have some advantages on some point but most of the time

it will particularly reflect out on negative manner specially gamblers are way too impulsive when it comes to their bets or simply into handling out their finances.

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June 22, 2021, 11:21:45 PM
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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained,  then more money can be achieved.
It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.



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June 22, 2021, 11:31:27 PM
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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained,  then more money can be achieved.
It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.
Gambling addicts wont stop as long they do have money or something that they can spend on their gambling activity and they wont really realize until its too late and this had been a common behavior of most gambling addicted who do wreck out themselves before they do make out some self realizations.Majority of them would really be that shy on sharing up their problem or simply tell or confess it into their loved ones which would really result on self stress and minding their own problem until it would be busted out or when they cant already take it anymore.

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June 23, 2021, 10:00:52 AM
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Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and   and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I asay maturity, because it all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

Thank you for supporting me in this, because it's far from being obvious to everyone. People keep saying that all addictions are bad, while, in fact, some of them are much worse than others. Gambling addiction is among the dangerous ones, so replacing it with something less harmful is a success, not just "replacing one addiction with another". Of course drugs and alcohol should be out of the question.

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June 23, 2021, 11:19:29 AM
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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained,  then more money can be achieved.
It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.
Gambling addicts wont stop as long they do have money or something that they can spend on their gambling activity and they wont really realize until its too late and this had been a common behavior of most gambling addicted who do wreck out themselves before they do make out some self realizations.Majority of them would really be that shy on sharing up their problem or simply tell or confess it into their loved ones which would really result on self stress and minding their own problem until it would be busted out or when they cant already take it anymore.
This is the problem from addicted gambler as they don't care everything but for the funds they are willing to spend and lose.
they will find the problem once they already out of funds totally .
better to gamble only when you are capable to lose.
There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients  already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.
Hope that all areas of the world will have this mate because you seems to be a Hero at your own spence .









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June 23, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
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Addiction is a very strong spirit that leads to failure,frustration, and confusion.The first thing to do is to identify your problem as an addict,get mad at yourself and   and desire for a change.Self discipline will help you overcome the spirit when it comes,and avoid people that are also addicted to it so that the conversation will not change your mindset.

I have been addicted to so many things in my life but I've always outgrown them. Playing chess was addicting to me but after months to a year, I end up replacing the addiction with something else. Addiction can sometimes be cured by pre-occupying the mind and sometimes, the environment influence much. An addicted person who lives nearby the casino just a drive away, it's a lot harder to solve with this factor. Moving could help and it need self-discipline just like you are saying.

There are many kinds of addiction, and some of them can be very harmful, but chess ... I don't think it's a harmful one. Replacing one addiction with another, less harmful addiction, can be a good way to go for gambling addicts. I don't think many of them can be satisfied with chess playing, maybe some of them, but not many, but I'm sure there are several things for each person that can be as addictive as gambling to them, but much less harmful.

Replacing your worst addiction with a less addiction game or hobby that's not gonna harm your finance and mental health is a good move---boss move or should I asay maturity, because it all about self admittance and realization that in fact you're addicted and you need to be treated.

Diversifying or altering your vision on a lot of things or possibility to earn more money or to have entertainment other than gambling will help (in my opinion) to realize things about your addiction in gambling. Others just don't want it, therefore they are still stuck in the world of addiction in gambling.

Thank you for supporting me in this, because it's far from being obvious to everyone. People keep saying that all addictions are bad, while, in fact, some of them are much worse than others. Gambling addiction is among the dangerous ones, so replacing it with something less harmful is a success, not just "replacing one addiction with another". Of course drugs and alcohol should be out of the question.

Others think it is just the same is wrong. Yes, it is both addiction but we're talking about the negative impact that it will give to ourselves in the long run, the lesser one of course is much better (obviously). It is an achievement, to slowly crawl up to your addiction hole and see other things that could benefit you instead of taking too much money and toll on your body.

No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.
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June 23, 2021, 11:41:15 AM
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Well, everyone has a concern for the people closest to them and that can be a strong impetus for them to provide input and advice about gambling addiction. But the problem is, when a gambling addict can still control his life so well that it doesn't appear that he is a gambling addict, then how can the people closest to him help. So in this case it is those gambling addicts who have really ruined their own lives and even for those around them, if that were the case surely there would be many people who would care for him to help get out of the gambling addiction that has ruined his life.
The closest people around the gambler can know if something different happens to that person because they are bond with a relationship that we can not know, and only they will know about that. But yes, if the addicted gambler doesn't realize that something wrong already happened to them, they will not ask for help about their problem. The closest people will make sure that they will help many things for that addicted person to gambling if they see that that addicted person start ruined his life.
Yes like that, everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

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June 23, 2021, 06:14:47 PM
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It could seem like an unortodox way for stopping being addicted to gambling, but sometimes an easy way out of this addiction could be to learn smart betting strategies.
I mean if you are addicted, you won't stop betting, but at least you will have the chance to generate money from it. I know it's hard for someone who is addicted to follow rules, but at least for some of these players could be a way out.
It is very unorthodox and I do not think it is going to work, the reason is simple we know that the few that are successful when it come to gambling need to be very disciplined not only in the bets they take but also on how they manage their money, an addicted person cannot do anything like this as even if they had a way to beat the casinos and the money to do so eventually they will lose control and they will begin to make all kind of bad bets and lose their capital as a result of this.
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everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.
I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.
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There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients  already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.
your city is very lucky to have a program like this
if it continues to grow, definitely very helpful for those who are addicted but have no money

here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab

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There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients  already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.
your city is very lucky to have a program like this
if it continues to grow, definitely very helpful for those who are addicted but have no money
This is a rare occasion when groups are forming just to focus for gamblers , though maybe their group is composed of former
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here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab
Of course because the government is gaining from gambling addiction and their tandem with gambling operators/owners lol.

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here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab
You don't blame addiction of people to the government. It's your personal matter and you should be the one to find out the answer and how you'll get rid of it.

It doesn't matter if you're rich or not.

You're not rich then you gamble, you must be responsible of yourself and look to your financial situation.



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Well, everyone has a concern for the people closest to them and that can be a strong impetus for them to provide input and advice about gambling addiction. But the problem is, when a gambling addict can still control his life so well that it doesn't appear that he is a gambling addict, then how can the people closest to him help. So in this case it is those gambling addicts who have really ruined their own lives and even for those around them, if that were the case surely there would be many people who would care for him to help get out of the gambling addiction that has ruined his life.
The closest people around the gambler can know if something different happens to that person because they are bond with a relationship that we can not know, and only they will know about that. But yes, if the addicted gambler doesn't realize that something wrong already happened to them, they will not ask for help about their problem. The closest people will make sure that they will help many things for that addicted person to gambling if they see that that addicted person start ruined his life.
Yes like that, everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.
It is not easy for the addict to admit or share his story about addiction to gambling to other people because that can make those people will angry to them, how it could happen to them. But if the addicted can share the story with their closest people, that will help them get the way out of the problem, which will not take too long for those people to solve the problem. Even if that gambler is smart to hide his addiction, that will not happen forever because someday, he will tell/share/show about gambling to others to see that he is really addicted to gambling.

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June 26, 2021, 08:39:50 PM
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everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.
I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.
This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.
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June 26, 2021, 08:42:43 PM
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everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.
I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.
This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.
You cant really blame out people on having that kind of impression on where they do really look negatively with gambling due to the effects that it could possibly give out on someone when they are attached with addiction which is actually true but it would all vary on how someone will be treating gambling
and how they do deal with it up with because not all that do play does automatically be considered as an addicted one.There are people whom do play just for the sake of entertainment but people are naturally being judgemental when it comes to this situation which i cant really blame them off.
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~ No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.

I agree. Sometimes even the help from the best possible professional may look ineffective, but a gambling addict taking that help and struggling with his/her addiction with all their might should be proud of themselves because they are on the right road. Maybe only one option out of many is suitable, and that's why it's hard to find it right away, but with enough tries the right solution will be found eventually.

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It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.
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It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.
What I know, most gambling addicts who make it rich because playing professionally can control themselves in playing and play with discipline.
Many people get rich from gambling and they turn their gambling profits into real business or investment because they think they will not gamble forever, unlike those who play who can't control themselves from rich to poor and all depends on them being a smart gambler and also mature.

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It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

yeah right, if that gamblers explores more possibilities and not just relying with his gambling capabilities, the very chance that he can managed to survive and established his wealth,

It's difficult to find the right system and attitude for anyone to continuously earned from gambling industry, by chance, only few can do that.

But, if you are good enough in working with your opportunities, avoiding to become addicted and using this venue as ladder for better lifestyle is very possible to happened to anyone.

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June 29, 2021, 08:54:49 PM
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This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.
You cant really blame out people on having that kind of impression on where they do really look negatively with gambling due to the effects that it could possibly give out on someone when they are attached with addiction which is actually true but it would all vary on how someone will be treating gambling
and how they do deal with it up with because not all that do play does automatically be considered as an addicted one.There are people whom do play just for the sake of entertainment but people are naturally being judgemental when it comes to this situation which i cant really blame them off.
I get your point but to automatically assume that someone is addicted to gambling just because they gamble once in a while is just wrong, quite honestly we can find a lot more people that area addicted to video games and social media on the streets and I am sure it would not be even close, for every addicted gambler I think we could find 100 people addicted to social media and yet people do not think of them as addicted even if they obviously are.
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