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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
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August 17, 2021, 08:20:04 PM |
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
It would be the last option if it turns out that helping yourself first or seeking help from your loved ones didn't work because this had always been the case on where they do opt for professional help but to think that this isn't a guaranteed help that you would really be able to solve out your problem. It is actually on someones mind if he's serious on quitting gambling in the first place.You would really be that serious on doing that and this would help at least. Addiction is something that cant really get easily rid if you wanted too.It would really require strong will and dedication to fight over addiction.
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August 17, 2021, 11:24:10 PM |
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
Yeah exactly. There are plenty of free counseling services online as well, although they are probably less effective than if you saw one in real life. However, do note that seeing a psych alone does not vindicate you. You still need to put in the effort to get into the right mindset - ultimately, no one is stopping you from gambling and no one can, and you need to treat it as entertainment rather than a way to make quick money/chase losses.
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August 18, 2021, 03:01:37 AM |
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I have seen that there is a lot of discussion about gambling ambition, but there is a way I can channel it through NFT games, I was recently talking to a friend who is a gamer by nature, and he told me that juices like WOF, Tibia, Axie, they put something to what many call the "Stamina", which means that at least the players can enjoy the game for 12 continuous hours, after that the performance of their char no longer performs, because they must let them rest for at least another 12 hours, this was put because many gamers had health problems, they developed kidney problems.
I think that players who are very dedicated to playing these types of games are useful, now that NFT games are booming it would be a great option.
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive
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August 18, 2021, 08:12:33 AM |
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted. and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.
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August 18, 2021, 08:51:28 AM |
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There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted. and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.
It's a problem on both sides really. People that could help aren't really asking it for free nor could they since that's what they do for a living, and as for the addict himself there are still a multitude of problems here. First, Addicts that acknowledge themselves as addicts don't need psychologists, they need someone to brute force help them where they manage his funds, finance, expenses, etc. so that they have full control over what they spend. This way, the gambler would have in no way be able to gamble. Secondly, addicts that don't admit they are is what require psychologists. They tend to help in making them realize they are addicts, and where to start. The first method of bruteforcing is hard on the addict and the one helping him ngl, but honestly, it's the best solution in terms of doing it free of charge imo.
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August 18, 2021, 01:50:52 PM |
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There are free consultation from the government hospitals and services though i don't know in your country but in mine there are many that offers this but the problem is addicted gamblers aren't willing consult and ask for help because they are even afraid of accepting the fact that they are already addicted. and i believe that this is the normal situation of most gamblers and this cannot be denied from those former addict.
Not all countries will have that facility to help the addicted person gamble because if a country prohibit gambling, they will not have that. Still, maybe they will have a facility to addicted to drugs and alcohol as that problem is almost happening in all countries. But that will depend on how good the government is concerned about the addiction matter, but maybe the hospital can help solve the addiction problem. Those addicted people to gambling will not admit that they are addicted. Maybe after their family or friends consult with the doctor or psychiatrist will know about the problem and how to solve it.
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I do not know where to seek help, but I know that in any addiction the first step is always to accept you have a condition. If you can accept that which means you have already started the very first step and you will be fine. I know it sounds scary at first, but there are so many people who do not accept the fact that they are addicted and they keep gambling and losing money, if you keep doing that and not accept it then you are not going to be able to find the help.
Technically, I'm one of those people: I like to gamble, I enjoy the process a lot, and I keep losing money, and I don't want to quit. Do I consider myself an addicted gambler? No. But then again, most of the addicted don't. So, why do I think, nevertheless, that I can keep playing? That's because I don't lose more than I can afford to. The money I lose to gamble worth it, every cent, because I'm having so much fun. So, the fact that "they keep gambling and losing money" doesn't necessarily imply they are addicted gamblers, until we know what part of their, say, monthly budget, they are losing. Nice. As long as you are having fun it doesn't matter if you are losing what is already made as a budget for that day to gamble. That's not addiction yet in my opinion because you are still aware about what/how much you are risking. I like that idea and maybe I am also on that same boat. I keep on losing before at NBA bets but I tried to go deeper into analyzing the game and gain some wins in the long run. That made me more happy than just enjoying the game while losing in the end. It's a different joy when a win happens in both team you are cheering for and including your bet. A satisfying one specially if it doesn't occur every time.
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
Yeah exactly. There are plenty of free counseling services online as well, although they are probably less effective than if you saw one in real life. However, do note that seeing a psych alone does not vindicate you. You still need to put in the effort to get into the right mindset - ultimately, no one is stopping you from gambling and no one can, and you need to treat it as entertainment rather than a way to make quick money/chase losses. yes, definitely in this case being in the presence of someone else and not only on the digital world will probably be more effective and you are right we can't run away from ourselves finding the reason of why we have our behaviors is the main thing to do <...>
It would be the last option if it turns out that helping yourself first or seeking help from your loved ones didn't work because this had always been the case on where they do opt for professional help but to think that this isn't a guaranteed help that you would really be able to solve out your problem. It is actually on someones mind if he's serious on quitting gambling in the first place.You would really be that serious on doing that and this would help at least. Addiction is something that cant really get easily rid if you wanted too.It would really require strong will and dedication to fight over addiction. I don't think this should be the last option, in reality a lot of people have a prejudice against therapy (not saying this is your case) but the reality is that it can help people, specially those facing problems like addiction
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Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive
That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so.
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Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive
That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so. some psychologists offer their services to people who can't pay but this is a minor % and more like social work. It's definitely a matter of priorities, people could try to find a way and pay for their treatment, in the end it'll help and in the long run if they're addicted to gambling and considering all the positive sides of attending the psychologist, it'll be cheap. many possibilities to be considered but investing in ourselves is never a bad idea
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Where to get help:
Gamcare operates the GamCare operates the National Gambling Helpline, providing information, advice and support for anyone affected by gambling problems - advisers are available 24 hours a day on Freephone 0808 8020 133 or via web chat.
Please feel free to add sources according to the nation or locality. 🌞
I think that gamcare is unfortunately rather limited to helping UK based problem gamblers and I'm not sure they'd have the resources available to help people in other countries over the phone - their website will certainly have some useful advice worth reading. Honestly, online resources can help you with some solid strategies but ultimately you have to want to change and except that you may have wasted a lot of money before hitting the realization that you will never win long term gambling. It's fine for the odd bit of fun, but if you have a serious addiction you need to stay away from it permanently because it can suck you back in if you don't - accept you cannot control it except by cutting it out completely.
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Think reminds of the book "Wiley's Trading for a living" where the author talked about an alcoholic group where they would gather, do certain things and get over their alcoholic problems the same could be done when traders start gambling without reading the charts properly and without any technical analysis which is no different than gambling away their money.
What I mean to say is that there are people that are your nemesis and once you meet certain people in your life you'll realize they either hooked you up with wrong stuff or fixed some of your stuff, So it's much better to create gambler's group in real life where gamblers would gather where they'll have a good chance of meeting the right person.
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Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive
That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so. For free? This is something impossible and its true that nothing on this world would be free towards giving out some service since counselling or any service would really be having corresponding fee. When it comes to addiction then this is something which cant really be resolved easily but you should start off with yourself first if you are really that eager on getting rid of addiction. It might not be simple but could really be possible and much more less in expense if you could actually done it for yourself.Next would be your own family on helping you out on resolving your current problem.
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that is a really important topic, I had a similar topic deleted on this board in the past so wasn't sure if the discussion was welcome or not, good to see that there's space for that here.
adding to some of the good suggestions and stories I'd contribute with a simple idea: Seek professional help with a psychologist Nothing wrong with going for therapy and this can help a lot, regardless of age and moment in life.
Getting professional help is key, I know that a lot of people do not want to do this because by doing so they are admitting they have a problem but that is the first and the most important step that someone needs to take in the case they want to recover from a gambling addiction, as even if they have the best intentions to recover from them once an addictive behavior has taken place it is almost impossible to beat it without professional help.
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According to what you count, you must be careful, because if you do not abandon the game when you lose the danger that exists is that you lose enough capital and that you can neglect your basic needs, a person can allow himself to lose what he wants if he has a good economic condition, but if you see that you are compromising a lot of balance that you have destined for your family or other basic needs, if you have to stop it. ~ Your economic condition can be not that good, but you can still buy a lottery ticket, or place a small bet on your favorite team, if the amount you are risking in the process is less or equal to the price of a cup of coffee in your area. I mean, you don't have to, but if it makes you happier - you can. Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says: Prefrontal cortex The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.
I wish it were so! In fact, they only know that gambling addiction has something to do with prefrontal cortex, and that's it, so far. I really hope they will explain it one day, but we not there yet, unfortunately.
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Getting professional help is key, I know that a lot of people do not want to do this because by doing so they are admitting they have a problem but that is the first and the most important step that someone needs to take in the case they want to recover from a gambling addiction, as even if they have the best intentions to recover from them once an addictive behavior has taken place it is almost impossible to beat it without professional help.
With a strong determination an addict will certainly be able to get out of his addiction. Strong determination doesn't mean you have to be alone and try to get out of addiction because that way won't work, strong determination here is about finding lots of outdoor activities with lots of friends because that way you can get a new fun atmosphere. But if you don't have the effort to come out on your own then of course, seeking professional help and a psychologist is the final way to go. Not all gambling addicts will be willing to bring up their problems and therefore, at least there is a way to do it yourself without needing help first.
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Not all psychologist are willing to help without a commitment. Some state it very clear that their services isn't free and this keep most addictors far from seeking help. I know there are government aids who will love to help but most countries have corrupt government management system where no one cares any longer on how people in that country survive
That would be an obvious thing that there's no professional that will give you their service and going to render their precious time for free. Unless that professional is your relative or close friend that would be willing to help you and lend you a helping hand. I wouldn't blame the government on this matter, this is a personal option and problem that gamblers have to deal with. If you have no budget for seeking professional help, you have to find a way to do it on your own and that's controlling yourself and you need to make sure that you're disciplined upon doing so. For free? This is something impossible and its true that nothing on this world would be free towards giving out some service since counselling or any service would really be having corresponding fee. When it comes to addiction then this is something which cant really be resolved easily but you should start off with yourself first if you are really that eager on getting rid of addiction. It might not be simple but could really be possible and much more less in expense if you could actually done it for yourself.Next would be your own family on helping you out on resolving your current problem. Wouldn't happen in most of the cases but I know of psychologists in Brazil who give their services for free to help people, probably most of those who do it have enough clients to earn good money and donate part of their hours to help some lawyers do the same. I'm not sure how often this happens in other countries but would believe that probabilities are high, in bigger or smaller amount... yes, addiction is a hard problem to overcome and for most gamblers (or day traders) would take months to years
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Science explained why we are addicted to gambling and this is what it says: Prefrontal cortex The other brain region that is often implicated in gambling and substance use disorders is the prefrontal cortex. This region is involved in decision-making, controlling impulsivity, and cognitive control.
I wish it were so! In fact, they only know that gambling addiction has something to do with prefrontal cortex, and that's it, so far. I really hope they will explain it one day, but we not there yet, unfortunately. There's no need further explanation I think, since it's pretty basic logic. People get addicted in anything because their habits exceeded the usual, that's why it became an addiction, either it is bad or not. No need to explain why, when, and how to quit it, because the solutions already are existing, the problem now is that gambling addicts never wants to admit they are addicted on it, because they think it's not bad at all, just a habit.
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