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May 28, 2021, 10:29:52 PM
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Mine just say it goes to the collective group.  Nothing specific for just myself.  I still think this is really a cool thing. Cool Cool Cool Cool

Thanks for checking. You must not own any online seats. It’s somewhat important to note that while Minted Seat coins are a cool collectible I invented to sell as a fundraiser for seats and they do contain seats, the organization itself is built around online seats. Many people confuse the two because there is obvious overlap, but anyone could create a similar product and point seats at it. We’d likely even support and promote the idea if they shared donations.

Minted Seats are pooled together for the lotto so that it isn’t necessary to peel them and prove ownership to participate. This was the best workaround I could come up with.

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May 28, 2021, 10:38:15 PM
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Mine just say it goes to the collective group.  Nothing specific for just myself.  I still think this is really a cool thing. Cool Cool Cool Cool

Thanks for checking. You must not own any online seats. It’s somewhat important to note that while Minted Seat coins are a cool collectible I invented to sell as a fundraiser for seats and they do contain seats, the organization itself is built around online seats. Many people confuse the two because there is obvious overlap, but anyone could create a similar product and point seats at it. We’d likely even support and promote the idea if they shared donations.

Minted Seats are pooled together for the lotto so that it isn’t necessary to peel them and prove ownership to participate. This was the best workaround I could come up with.

Is this up to date and current?

https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

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May 28, 2021, 10:51:22 PM
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Is this up to date and current?

https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

Could you explain the difference between up to date and current so that I can make sure to address your questions accurately?

I have no reason to believe any information provided by nonnakip is anything but accurate. I would say if you believe something he provides isn’t being accurately reflected, contacting him privately to make a bug report would be the appropriate course of action.

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May 28, 2021, 11:01:30 PM
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Is this up to date and current?

https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

Could you explain the difference between up to date and current so that I can make sure to address your questions accurately?

I have no reason to believe any information provided by nonnakip is anything but accurate. I would say if you believe something he provides isn’t being accurately reflected, contacting him privately to make a bug report would be the appropriate course of action.

what is the difference between https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

and : https://www.nastyfans.org/list.csv

or are those 2 linked together showing all seat holders and not just online seat holders?

Just clearing up any confusion some are asking about.

thanks!

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May 29, 2021, 12:04:14 AM
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Is this up to date and current?

https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

Could you explain the difference between up to date and current so that I can make sure to address your questions accurately?

I have no reason to believe any information provided by nonnakip is anything but accurate. I would say if you believe something he provides isn’t being accurately reflected, contacting him privately to make a bug report would be the appropriate course of action.

what is the difference between https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

and : https://www.nastyfans.org/list.csv

or are those 2 linked together showing all seat holders and not just online seat holders?

Just clearing up any confusion some are asking about.

thanks!

The mint.json link shows information about Minted Seats. The list.csv shows information that online seat owners opt in their settings to make public. Both are efforts to maintain transparency while respecting the privacy of seat owners as much as possible. I’m appreciative of nonnakip for offering these updating feeds and I utilize the list.csv as a way to show how many seats are owned by NastyMining.

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May 29, 2021, 12:11:03 AM
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Mine just say it goes to the collective group.  Nothing specific for just myself.  I still think this is really a cool thing. Cool Cool Cool Cool

Thanks for checking. You must not own any online seats. It’s somewhat important to note that while Minted Seat coins are a cool collectible I invented to sell as a fundraiser for seats and they do contain seats, the organization itself is built around online seats. Many people confuse the two because there is obvious overlap, but anyone could create a similar product and point seats at it. We’d likely even support and promote the idea if they shared donations.

Minted Seats are pooled together for the lotto so that it isn’t necessary to peel them and prove ownership to participate. This was the best workaround I could come up with.

I'm cool with all of it, love the physical coins Cool Cool Cool
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May 29, 2021, 12:44:39 AM
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I can’t say I’m looking forward to spending hours hunched over an engraver

are you now doing these by hand? hence the hunched over an engraver?

I thought you had a machine where you just place the coin and let it do the work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLUKXpaAlHM

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May 29, 2021, 01:26:17 AM
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I can’t say I’m looking forward to spending hours hunched over an engraver

are you now doing these by hand? hence the hunched over an engraver?

I thought you had a machine where you just place the coin and let it do the work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLUKXpaAlHM

I haven't changed my process although I am using a different engraver then what is seen in the video you posted.  I wish it was as easy as sticking it in a machine and pressing a button.  I'm guessing there would probably be more people out there offering coins like this if it were.  Check around and see what these sort of services will cost you and you may have a new respect for the value I offer...  There's actually a lot of work that goes into engraving these coins so precisely.  Rest assured I'll be spending a great deal of effort over many hours to get these done for the winners with the same great quality that is expected of my works.  

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May 29, 2021, 01:30:28 AM
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Very cool giveaway. I have a set of this coin bought to a person and not thru shop. Can I still participate in the lottery? Does my coin will still receive share for the profit of this giveaway?



How can I register my seat on nastyfans website? I already created an account. Thank you

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Very cool giveaway. I have a set of this coin bought to a person and not thru shop. Can I still participate in the lottery? Does my coin will still receive share for the profit of this giveaway?



How can I register my seat on nastyfans website? I already created an account. Thank you

I believe the below quotes from this thread should answer your questions.


If you have coins 2nd hand. Any way to get them on your name?

Yes, although it's somewhat important to note that it is only for looks and doesn't serve much of a purpose.  The best way to get coins in your name is to be logged into nastyfans.org with your user account when you make purchases in the NastyShop.  The next way is to provide your coin's public address to nonnakip along with your username and ask that they be linked.  You can do this by sending him a message here: https://nastyfans.org/post

Minted Seats are pooled together for the lotto so that it isn’t necessary to peel them and prove ownership to participate. This was the best workaround I could come up with.

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I can’t say I’m looking forward to spending hours hunched over an engraver

are you now doing these by hand? hence the hunched over an engraver?

I thought you had a machine where you just place the coin and let it do the work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLUKXpaAlHM

I haven't changed my process although I am using a different engraver then what is seen in the video you posted.  I wish it was as easy as sticking it in a machine and pressing a button.  I'm guessing there would probably be more people out there offering coins like this if it were.  Check around and see what these sort of services will cost you and you may have a new respect for the value I offer...  There's actually a lot of work that goes into engraving these coins so precisely.  Rest assured I'll be spending a great deal of effort over many hours to get these done for the winners with the same great quality that is expected of my works.  

I guess I was asking if you are using a machine to do it or actually hunched over hand engraving like your post made it sound.

I am actually looking at buying the MPX-95 but am wanting to test the new laser for metal engraving first. It might be able to do what I want and I can save the $ that would be spent on the MPX-95

to be clear - I am not questioning the quality of work on these coins. They look wonderful. Just questioning the statement of "hours hunched over an engraver" as that makes it sound like they are done by hand.

editing to avoid double post - I asked previously but no one answered - what "homepage" is nonakip talking about? can someone post a link? is the page we need an account for? but if we have minted seats and no online seats our accounts are deleted? removed - addressed in another thread.

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I am actually looking at buying the MPX-95 but am wanting to test the new laser for metal engraving first. It might be able to do what I want and I can save the $ that would be spent on the MPX-95

to be clear - I am not questioning the quality of work on these coins. They look wonderful. Just questioning the statement of "hours hunched over an engraver" as that makes it sound like they are done by hand.

Testing on a cheaper laser engraver isn't a bad idea.  Those are probably closer to the stick the coin in and press a button vision you have in your head.  I think you'll be a bit surprised how much time and effort goes into engraving hundreds of metal objects with an actual engraver without scuffing the coins or having misaligned engravings.  I would be most flattered to see others elevate their creations from paper wallets after all of these years to join me in the world of engraved metal.  I'd love to see others using vanity addresses and providing all the information about the coins on updating feeds that are publicly available.  I'd really get excited if someone created something that also received BTC over the blockchain via a separate organization.  When I look at the physical wallets market over the last 10 years, I see next to no innovation from Casascius coins except using the virgin BTC block rewards to fund coins.  I would love nothing more than for someone to create something that pushed me to innovate further.  From my perspective, Minted Seats have 0 competitors of any kind and never have over their 9 year existence.  It really would be my biggest accomplishment to get people on this forum to stop attacking my innovations out of jealousy and start trying to competing with them.  Competition elevates us all and I would love some that lasted longer than a pump with empty promises and rug pull scam (remember Friends of Satoshi? LOL).

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May 29, 2021, 10:59:56 PM
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I am actually looking at buying the MPX-95 but am wanting to test the new laser for metal engraving first. It might be able to do what I want and I can save the $ that would be spent on the MPX-95

to be clear - I am not questioning the quality of work on these coins. They look wonderful. Just questioning the statement of "hours hunched over an engraver" as that makes it sound like they are done by hand.

Testing on a cheaper laser engraver isn't a bad idea.  Those are probably closer to the stick the coin in and press a button vision you have in your head.  I think you'll be a bit surprised how much time and effort goes into engraving hundreds of metal objects with an actual engraver without scuffing the coins or having misaligned engravings.  I would be most flattered to see others elevate their creations from paper wallets after all of these years to join me in the world of engraved metal.  I'd love to see others using vanity addresses and providing all the information about the coins on updating feeds that are publicly available.  I'd really get excited if someone created something that also received BTC over the blockchain via a separate organization.  When I look at the physical wallets market over the last 10 years, I see next to no innovation from Casascius coins except using the virgin BTC block rewards to fund coins.  I would love nothing more than for someone to create something that pushed me to innovate further.  From my perspective, Minted Seats have 0 competitors of any kind and never have over their 9 year existence.  It really would be my biggest accomplishment to get people on this forum to stop attacking my innovations out of jealousy and start trying to competing with them.  Competition elevates us all and I would love some that lasted longer than a pump with empty promises and rug pull scam (remember Friends of Satoshi? LOL).

I simply asked if you still did it as shown in the video that you posted to YouTube which is a computer controlled engraver so not really requiring being “hunched over the engraver”. So, I thought maybe you went to some method of hand engraving. No need to get so passive aggressive. You should get out more if you think everyone is using paper wallets still. Also vanity addresses are used by quite a few more than just you. Even in my simplistic small business have generated hundreds of vanity addresses for various projects other than coins even.  You do good work - no one questioned that. But get real - minted seats have no competitors because hodling is better roi than buying seats. Yes the fiat value has increased/exceeded what the fiat value was when they were first sold - but every single seat holder would have been better off  to hodl the btc they spent buying seats vs buying the seats

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Also vanity addresses are used by quite a few more than just you. Even in my simplistic small business have generated hundreds of vanity addresses for various projects other than coins even.  

That's awesome.  I rarely ever see them used.  Even simplistic short ones would be cool to see more frequently from creators.  Casascius was probably the first I saw using them (before me I believe and on a much larger scale) and I just added utilizing them for a numbering system on top of labeling a coin series.  Any links to information on how you utilize vanity addresses in your business?  I would love nothing more than to learn new ways people are using Bitcoin and interacting with the blockchain.  I wouldn't judge them on whether or not they've outpaced Bitcoin's unmatched growth either.  Nothing has, so that would be a silly criticism.  Diversification in itself is it's own benefit worth paying for as any investor will attest to so creating unique methods of achieving this are always beneficial and appreciated by me.

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Competition elevates us all and I would love some that lasted longer than a pump with empty promises and rug pull scam (remember Friends of Satoshi? LOL).


Are you implying that FOS was a scam? They voluntarily disbanded since they needed certain licenses to run as a business, is Nasty Fans registered with the SEC?


FOS website looks very professional and pleasant to view, instead of trying to badmouth other bitcoin projects to boost your own ego, id fix your 1994 looking website you have up.

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Also vanity addresses are used by quite a few more than just you. Even in my simplistic small business have generated hundreds of vanity addresses for various projects other than coins even.  

That's awesome.  I rarely ever see them used.  Even simplistic short ones would be cool to see more frequently from creators.  Casascius was probably the first I saw using them (before me I believe and on a much larger scale) and I just added utilizing them for a numbering system on top of labeling a coin series.  Any links to information on how you utilize vanity addresses in your business?  I would love nothing more than to learn new ways people are using Bitcoin and interacting with the blockchain.  I wouldn't judge them on whether or not they've outpaced Bitcoin's unmatched growth either.  Nothing has, so that would be a silly criticism.  Diversification in itself is it's own benefit worth paying for as any investor will attest to so creating unique methods of achieving this are always beneficial and appreciated by me.

I dont have fancy coins or anything like that  but I do sell poker chips wallets that are branded with with my logo on one side and a private key and holo on the other side. I chose to use poker chips to make a functional yet affordable wallet that people could use and afford to give away - they are sold as DIY but for several customers, which has amounted to several hundred of the chips, I have generated vanity addresses and applied them to the chips for the customers. I use an airgapped laptop that runs the vanitygen - it generates the address/key combination on screen which I convert both to QR codes and print them out - I do not save the address/key combinations and as I dont output them to a file there is nothing to save anyways - once I close the command window they are gone. I also have generated vanity addresses for a couple people who bought the AlpenCoin rolls. I have even 3d printed items and applied priv keys under a holo to them that are linked to vanity addresses.  I have not done any over 7-8 characters.

The one thing I have not done is have a way to also display the public address on the coin/poker chip itself - the last few jobs I have done I started using holo's that have a window in them, this allows me to put the priv key facing in and the pub key facing out in the window.  I would like to move to where I am engraving them though.  I am a very small operation though but hoping to grow over time.

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I dont have fancy coins or anything like that  but I do sell poker chips wallets that are branded with with my logo on one side and a private key and holo on the other side. I chose to use poker chips to make a functional yet affordable wallet that people could use and afford to give away - they are sold as DIY but for several customers, which has amounted to several hundred of the chips, I have generated vanity addresses and applied them to the chips for the customers. I use an airgapped laptop that runs the vanitygen - it generates the address/key combination on screen which I convert both to QR codes and print them out - I do not save the address/key combinations and as I dont output them to a file there is nothing to save anyways - once I close the command window they are gone. I also have generated vanity addresses for a couple people who bought the AlpenCoin rolls. I have even 3d printed items and applied priv keys under a holo to them that are linked to vanity addresses.  I have not done any over 7-8 characters.

The one thing I have not done is have a way to also display the public address on the coin/poker chip itself - the last few jobs I have done I started using holo's that have a window in them, this allows me to put the priv key facing in and the pub key facing out in the window.  I would like to move to where I am engraving them though.  I am a very small operation though but hoping to grow over time.

Excuse everyone, I know this is not the post to discuss this but I sent you a message regarding poker chips.
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why if the winner is a minted seat holder they do not get the coin if they win?

why would the coin only go to someone if they are not a minted seat holder? seems like it is a slap in the face to those that paid for both a seat and a coin instead of just paying for a seat.

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  • Lottery ticket numbers 1-2822 are assigned to minted seats as a collective group. If these tickets win the minted seat coin is auctioned off by OgNasty and 100% of the proceeds are distributed equally to all minted seats. (The two 1000-seat platinum minted seat coins are excluded from this group and are handled as online seats.)
  • The lottery tickets for a member are visible when the member signs in.

 It says tickets "1-2822" are assigned to minted seats.

when I log in to the website I see:

lottery tickets for block 686117
1-2955 (minted seat collective group)

So is it 1 thru 2822 or is it 1 thru 2955?

Also, I am still perplexed at why minted seat owners do not actually get their own ticket vs being tossed into one group. Well except whoever bought the 1000 seater coin, I guess they spent enough on that coin to get "counted" while anyone else that bought a coin is being considered second rate here.

Seems odd that someone who possibly spent more money (as they purchased a seat and a coin) gets less of a reward than the person who simply bought an online seat.

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June 01, 2021, 03:06:56 AM
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Also, I am still perplexed at why minted seat owners do not actually get their own ticket vs being tossed into one group.

It’s really simple. In order to definitively prove that you own a minted seat you would have to peel the coin and that is not something that I wanted to force people to do since it would destroy the collector value. This was what was chosen as the best possible solution and it was voted on and approved so that is what we did. If a different solution would have been presented and voted on as the way to do it, that’s what we would have done.

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June 01, 2021, 03:11:58 AM
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Also, I am still perplexed at why minted seat owners do not actually get their own ticket vs being tossed into one group.

It’s really simple. In order to definitively prove that you own a minted seat you would have to peel the coin and that is not something that I wanted to force people to do since it would destroy the collector value. This was what was chosen as the best possible solution and it was voted on and approved so that is what we did. If a different solution would have been presented and voted on as the way to do it, that’s what we would have done.

that makes zero sense and is not the only way to prove it. the seat is linked on our account or no? Mine is.

If a minted seat owner wins, they could simply provide a picture of their coin with their forum user name and the current date and provide that to you - would that not prove they have the seat?

so let me ask this - an online seat owner wins - how do you know who that is? how do you keep someone from falsely claiming that the seat that won is theirs?  Do you keep information on who all the online seat owners are?

I can understand if the person never creates an account on the site and never links the seat to them. but about those that do?


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