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June 01, 2021, 03:14:57 AM
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that makes zero sense and is not the only way to prove it. the seat is linked on our account or no? Mine is.

If a minted seat owner wins, they could simply provide a picture of their coin with their forum user name and the current date and provide that to you - would that not prove they have the seat?

so let me ask this - an online seat owner wins - how do you know who that is? how do you keep someone from falsely claiming that the seat that won is theirs?  Do you keep information on who all the online seat owners are?

I can understand if the person never creates an account on the site and never links the seat to them. but about those that do?




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June 01, 2021, 03:37:51 AM
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If a minted seat owner wins, they could simply provide a picture of their coin with their forum user name and the current date and provide that to you - would that not prove they have the seat?

That’s an idea you could have suggested before we voted on and passed the way to do it that we decided on. I’m not sure who you expect to go through hundreds of photos to verify this, or if you’d trust the human element, but I prefer the transparent method that was chosen personally. In any event, the NastyFans seat owners have spoken with their votes, so criticism at this point isn’t really constructive. This proposal was open for votes for a month and discussed prior to that for some time, particularly in our slack chat group where fans helped to form the way the proposal was made. It also passed with a very high % of vote, so while this might not be the way every member wanted to do it, it was preferred by a vast majority. Having a larger ownership stake would be the way to have a bigger influence on future polls or you have to accept the majority vote.

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June 01, 2021, 03:42:36 AM
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so let me ask this - an online seat owner wins - how do you know who that is? how do you keep someone from falsely claiming that the seat that won is theirs?  Do you keep information on who all the online seat owners are?

We literally chose to do the giveaway this way so that this wouldn’t be an issue. If you own the private key, you’ll get to share in the rewards as a group. If you don’t, you can’t. The way you suggested with photos and human verification can be gamed, but the private keys can’t. I hope that makes more sense to you now that this is the most fair, honest, and transparent way to do it, which is why we are doing it this way.

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June 01, 2021, 05:20:08 AM
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If a minted seat owner wins, they could simply provide a picture of their coin with their forum user name and the current date and provide that to you - would that not prove they have the seat?

That’s an idea you could have suggested before we voted on and passed the way to do it that we decided on. I’m not sure who you expect to go through hundreds of photos to verify this, or if you’d trust the human element, but I prefer the transparent method that was chosen personally. In any event, the NastyFans seat owners have spoken with their votes, so criticism at this point isn’t really constructive. This proposal was open for votes for a month and discussed prior to that for some time, particularly in our slack chat group where fans helped to form the way the proposal was made. It also passed with a very high % of vote, so while this might not be the way every member wanted to do it, it was preferred by a vast majority. Having a larger ownership stake would be the way to have a bigger influence on future polls or you have to accept the majority vote.


why hundreds? only 100 can win. and I was not a seat owner when whatever vote you are talking about - or where that vote even was. I am simply asking questions because anyone with common sense can see it is no harder to confirm a minted seat owner as an online seat owner.  It is not rocket science nor is it difficult to prove (edit) validate who owns a seat - especially if they are trying to claim the lottery win.

both require that you know who owns that seat in order for you to mail them a coin that you are giving away.

with a minted seat, it is very simple to prove if they have it -takes all of a few seconds. with an online seat, yes they have an account and can prove it is their account. I am also betting that many of the minted seat owners also have an account and can also easily verify that the seat is theirs.

and speaking of transparency - can you explain how the winner is selected? I know you are using a block but how is the lottery ticket number derived from the block? The last several sequential numbers in the block hash? the first 5 or 6 numbers?

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June 02, 2021, 07:42:40 PM
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why hundreds? only 100 can win.

You'd have to go through all the entries, not the winners.  Pics can be faked anyway so that was never a realistic option due to the human element and lack of transparency involved.  I could only imagine the cries of foul play if we did do it that way...  I'm confident we are doing it the best and most transparent way possible for everyone involved.  Judging from the wide margin of % that the giveaway passed the poll by, I am not alone. 

I hope everyone enjoyed the long holiday weekend of remembrance. 

I've been busy engraving rounds this morning and plan to spend most of my week doing so.  We'll see how many hours I can throw at it today, but hopefully I get some good pics out of this to show.  Smiley

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June 04, 2021, 09:36:32 AM
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Block 686117 is mined and lottery winners are known. You sign in to nastyfans to see if you are a winner.

The minted seat collective group won 13 1oz minted seat coins. OgNasty will auction these coins and proceeds will distribute equal to all minted seats. (1000 seat coins are not part of minted seat collective.)

If you have winning online seats you must claim your prize. If you have winning online seats you see a button to do claim. For claim you must write full postal address for OgNasty to send your prize.

All prizes not claimed by 4 July are auctioned by OgNasty and proceeds donated to nastyfans.

Verify winning tickets with:

Code:
wget https://nastyfans.org/download/lottery_draw_3.c

gcc lottery_draw_3.c -olottery_draw_3

bitcoin-cli getblock $(bitcoin-cli getblockhash 686117) | grep -A 400 '"tx":' | ./lottery_draw_3

Log in at nastyfans.org to see if any of your online seats were winners.  Get your mailing info sent in and I can start shipping these bad boys out.  Would love to see some pics when they start arriving in mailboxes!  Thanks to those who participated.  It's always great to have support and I'd love to keep finding new ways to give back.  I can't wait to hear the feedback once this is all behind us and all the coins are out the door.  If you didn't win, keep your eye out for auctions as I'll need to sell the coins won by Minted Seats to provide a special donation for all Minted Seats and plan to do so on this forum.  I hope to have some pics of this massive Minted Seat haul soon.  Back to the engraver...

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June 04, 2021, 12:46:01 PM
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Dang, didn't win.
If anyone doesn't want their winning coin, I'm happy to provide my address to ship to  Wink
Congrats to all winners.
Thanks OgNasty for such a big giveaway.
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June 04, 2021, 09:47:44 PM
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Block 686117 is mined and lottery winners are known. You sign in to nastyfans to see if you are a winner.

The minted seat collective group won 13 1oz minted seat coins. OgNasty will auction these coins and proceeds will distribute equal to all minted seats. (1000 seat coins are not part of minted seat collective.)

If you have winning online seats you must claim your prize. If you have winning online seats you see a button to do claim. For claim you must write full postal address for OgNasty to send your prize.

All prizes not claimed by 4 July are auctioned by OgNasty and proceeds donated to nastyfans.

Verify winning tickets with:

Code:
wget https://nastyfans.org/download/lottery_draw_3.c

gcc lottery_draw_3.c -olottery_draw_3

bitcoin-cli getblock $(bitcoin-cli getblockhash 686117) | grep -A 400 '"tx":' | ./lottery_draw_3

Log in at nastyfans.org to see if any of your online seats were winners.  Get your mailing info sent in and I can start shipping these bad boys out.  Would love to see some pics when they start arriving in mailboxes!  Thanks to those who participated.  It's always great to have support and I'd love to keep finding new ways to give back.  I can't wait to hear the feedback once this is all behind us and all the coins are out the door.  If you didn't win, keep your eye out for auctions as I'll need to sell the coins won by Minted Seats to provide a special donation for all Minted Seats and plan to do so on this forum.  I hope to have some pics of this massive Minted Seat haul soon.  Back to the engraver...


Congratulations to all the winners,Thanks to OgNasty and Nonnaki for making this possible .. I also have a question. How will it be distributed for those with minted seats winners , I understand that the coins will be auctioned but I would like to know where ..? or how will we know how will be the distribution thanks.
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June 05, 2021, 12:21:01 AM
Last edit: January 11, 2024, 09:30:26 PM by OgNasty
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How will it be distributed for those with minted seats winners , I understand that the coins will be auctioned but I would like to know where ..? or how will we know how will be the distribution thanks.

I'm planning to auction the coins on this site.  Not sure exactly when yet, but it will be soon.  I'll then take all the BTC raised and send it to nonnakip, who will distribute it to the Minted Seat addresses.  I assume this will trigger some payouts as Minted Seats close to their threshold are pushed over, but for many they will be able to see the distribution amount reflected in their coin's total here: https://nastyfans.org/mint.json - as well as I'm sure we'll get an update from nonnakip about the amounts distributed.

I have been busy this week...  Here are the spoils.  All 100 Minted Seat coins ready to go out to the winners!




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June 05, 2021, 12:43:22 AM
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I have been busy this week...  Here are the spoils.  All 100 Minted Seat coins ready to go out to the winners!



Thank you! They look great!
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June 05, 2021, 04:07:14 AM
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I still don’t understand how or why minted seats are treated differently than online seats - especially if the minted seats are attached to accounts on the site - this part about having to peel the coin to prove we own it makes zero sense - I mean you got a list to compare to? Have us sign from the address?  What do you do to prove ownership of the online seats? Let me guess, they have accounts registered on the site… anyone else see the fallacy here?

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June 05, 2021, 07:23:51 AM
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I still don’t understand how or why minted seats are treated differently than online seats

In that case, we are lucky you were not the one doing this giveaway. If you don’t understand, please respect that a wide majority of voters that do understand agreed this was the best way to do it.

I’m quite happy that everything went flawlessly with the lottery, the coins are all engraved and ready to go, and I’ve gotten quite a bit of positive feedback. Now to get these beauties in the hands of winners. Make sure to check your online account and claim your prizes!

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June 05, 2021, 10:37:51 AM
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Would be nice if you could explain the difference between a minted seat holder and an online seat holder who both have accounts registered. How can you prove who one is but not the other?

This is far from flawless - flawless would mean 100% satisfaction with the results and you do not have that.

Either way - you won’t explain it is my guess as it’s been asked several times and you simply skirt the question and  state we should have voted without explaining how we could have voted or for those that bought minted seats after whenever this vote was done.

I like the coins and simply would have preferred to have a coin had I won. I realize 100% satisfaction is never possible in any endeavor. And this is no exception.

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June 09, 2021, 08:50:25 PM
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The first auction from this giveaway is underway now here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5342882.0

This is for coins won by seats held by NastyMining as a result of our recent buyback.  These coins will be sold (I put in starting bids to make sure) this weekend and the funds will be sent to NastyMining's holdings.  This will help restore funds that were spent on the giveaway, which is pretty cool.  Once these are all sold, I will be able to auction coins won by Minted Seats with funds being distributed to the "Minted Seats Collective" as nonnakip calls it.  Then once enough time has passed I will do a final auction of coins that went unclaimed by winners which will have proceeds distributed to all NastyFans seats.  

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Then once enough time has passed I will do a final auction of coins that went unclaimed by winners which will have proceeds distributed to all NastyFans seats.  

I'm still awaiting quite a few addresses for the winners of this giveaway...  If you haven't received your coin, please make sure that you have checked with nonnakip to make sure that you have provided the requested information.  I sent out the coins to addresses I received immediately, so if you haven't received yours please double check that you've provided your address.  I had all these coins engraved and ready to go so people could get them quickly!  I want to get you your prizes as that was my intent with this giveaway and don't want to do any more auctions for new buyers until the winners have been sent their winnings!

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