Post your experience of being moderated here

[Pmalek]

Since some campaigns don't have character minimums, if mods didn't delete such short posts as the one you mentioned, everyone in a sig campaign that didn't count characters would be posting "Nice!" or "+1" a hundred times per day.

I think that all reputable bitcoin campaigns have a 100-200 minimum character requirement for posts. I can't remember seeing one in the previous years without such requirements. When it comes to altcoin campaigns, I really wouldn't know. 

I have another nick though I was doing an important work with, in fact it was receiving a lot of merits and people still wondering there why I'm not going on with that thread and I specifically stopped to posting there because of moderation (the posts that required hours and hours of research from my side were being deleted because someone was not happy to read the truth about how they crypto was launched, of course I was polite as ever publishing the info) and because it has become almost impossible to login using TOR (which of course is another matter).

If you have an alt-account whose posts are getting deleted, that's a completely different matter and an unrelated case to this one. The point of discussion here is the post "great" that got deleted, and everyone seems to agree that it was rightly so.

No one can comment on the deleted posts from your alt account because we haven't seen them, we don't know where they were posted, and so no one can comment on the possible reasons of deletion. Even though you say that your posts were truthful, that doesn't make them on-topic and relevant to the discussion, and can cause them to be deleted. You might have also posted your posts in self-moderated threads and had them deleted by the thread starters and not the mods.

As an example:
If there is a thread that discusses a recent cooperation between two altcoin projects and the implications the deal can have for the value of the coins, a truthful post from your side how altcoin project A is a scam for reasons A, B, and C, can be seen as off-topic and be deleted.

The better option for you would be to start your own thread in the Scam Accusation or Reputation board and explain why you think the project is fraudulent. That would then be a potentially valuable and on-topic discussion.

[suchmoon]

.... short replies like "thanks", "great", "good project sir" just bump the thread for hundreds of users, add it to watchlists, etc, and don't really carry any useful content.

I've already replied to this above, you are teaching me on how to bring useful content to the forum, right?

I'm expressing my opinion about the topic of your thread. You know, doing the thing this forum is for. If I wasn't sufficiently clear with my post: I think that by deleting 3 of your posts or even my invaluable "no" post, moderators are not going to impede the next Goethe or Nakamoto rising to their greatness.

[johnwhitestar]

I looked at the modlog, and you only appear once. But the modlog only keeps info for a few weeks/months.

BPIP shows only 3 deleted posts.

You are perfectly right.
I've got 3 posts deleted in about one year and a half with this account and 9 posts deleted in about two years with another account I had.

One of the above 3 posts was just "Great tool! Thank you" - which of course doesn't add anything to the content of this forum, since being rude or polite is the same here.

Another one is "Great!" we are discussing here.

The third one is not short and has some original thought in it, but the moderator hasn't probably understood it so he just deleted it, who knows maybe he was in a different mood and of course who cares how do the user feels about?

Among the mentioned 9 posts:
One is just "Agreed". Of course I can't agree with some consideration of the other user that is posting in my thread. It doesn't add any value if I agree and adjust my post accordingly. The most important thing is to keep moderators being robots here.

The other 7 were similar to spam as I was posting slightly modified text in different threads to inform people their coin were added to my list (which should've make them pleasure). But probably the moderator had better things to do than trying to understand whether my posts were bringing value here.

By bumping a thread as suggested above, it bumps the thread for many others who happen to be in that section.

I've already answered to this above. Bumping doesn't apply to coin announcements.

So, my advice would be to send a personal message if you want to say something like "Great, let me know if you need any more help" or something along those lines.

I want people in community to be encouraged by my caring about the issues of one of the users to ask for more assistance.
If I comunicate things privately it wouldn't make sense and I'd also appear rude to other users that are reading the thread.
It's as if I was asked "How are you" publicly and then would send an sms "Fine" because someone imposed me no-one-word rule.

This page might help you: https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php

It allows you to bypass the captcha, and is quite handy when running into captcha issues when using Tor or any IP that has issues with the captcha service.

Nice suggestion, it was not available in those times at least when complained with themos I've got no answer.

[philipma1957]

Well, that's the way things work here. That post wouldn't have been deleted in other forums, but usually too short posts that don't add anything meaningful are at risk of being reported and deleted.

In my case, I had some posts deleted after someone considered one of my posts low value and went through my post history on a reporting spree.

It has not happened again, I guess it is clear that I am a decent poster. Although I suppose I might get some post deleted in the future, as most people in the forum have.

I'm not sure the moderators have to interfere with the communication because of the length of the post, especially if they don't bother themselves to read all the rest of the conversation to see it was not just a casual comment.

I've personally got many of my posts moderated so far. Specifically I was doing a quality research creating a dedicated topic here and thus I was answering to the question of people in a very serious manner, dedicating hours and hours of work of research posting replies that later on were moderated for the reasons I don't know, which has made me stop working on the topic here and the forum has lost a lot of quality content.

However I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to create a tool for those like me that would like to know why they've been moderated.

I helped some fix an issue the thread was six or seven posts we got the issue fixed. so I post this

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

hello, i have just started to mine LTC with bitmain antminer L3 on viabtc.com

so i have told that i have to choose pps+ to get rewarded of doge, but on website it is written that i have to choose ppln..

i have a question if you are mining on viabtc what did you choose? thanks for answer

pps+

thanks

good luck as doge is amazing at the moment

As I helped the guy get squared away and was merely being civil.

mods deleted it.  As being civil and encouraging new people seems to be frowned upon.


I have no signature for profit as I no longer believe in doing that. But that is simply the way of this forum it doe not care if you are polite or civil .

[Igebotz]

Unfortunately this forum's rules are more and more set up in the way that it's impossible to communicate for the normal human beings. Thus fighting with the bots and people that are here for other reasons the moderators are pushing away people like me that has something to say.

The moderator who deleted your post did so within the rules, the single reply "Great" is an offtopic and does not add value to the thread and its consider spamming. Rules on posting became very strict since the Merit and Activity system was introduced to the forum to make sure shit posters don't go around accumulating Activity points doing nothing. If you wish to express your feelings through post make it a bit longer, maybe a 2 lines sentence cause most of the time 1 line post are considered off-topic or spam.
You are a Sr. Member you should know Basic rules and how things work OP.

[johnwhitestar]

If you have an alt-account whose posts are getting deleted, that's a completely different matter and an unrelated case to this one.

This thread is not about "Great!" post being deleted.

Of course I can be lying about me being moderated with another nick, but I mentioned it because I was trying to understand why do I have an impression being constantly moderated while I have "only" 3 posts deleted so far.

The point of discussion here is the post "great" that got deleted, and everyone seems to agree that it was rightly so.

I'm quite used nobody agrees with my opinion.


Edit:
I'm giving up replying to this thread, since people are beginning posting unrelated nonsenses that has nothing to do with what I was speaking about and also I can't reply the same thing ten times in row because nobody cares to read what I've already said.

Making money on your signatures is great, but I can't reply to any casual thing you post in "reply" to "me".

You are fighting to have a meaningful forum and are posting without even reading the others. And of course I should follow the absurd rule to not reply to people with one word.

I'll be posting here next time I'll be moderated if it happens, hope other people who feel bad about being moderated by people who don't really care about what's going in the thread they are moderating will post here as well.

[OgNasty]

My experience with mods has had some pretty shitty moments.  My mining thread is impossible to have any sort of discussion due to deletion of anyone who posts anything out of fear they're trying to inflate their post count.  Additionally, I've had users outright disrupt honest projects with lies repeatedly for years, post personal information, make up events that never happened, etc. with next to no repercussions.  Those in charge have even asked people to forgive users for harassing and breaking the rules here to troll me.  I've also had for sale threads moved from their appropriate sections & countless on topic posts of mine deleted.  I don't know if the mods are overworked, undermanaged, play favorites, or just don't care, but it seems like there are probably a lot of people on the internet who would love to have such a high paying job requiring such a low skill level and would probably do an honest job at it without rushing through and trying to handle reports without really looking into any of them.  

[johnwhitestar]

My experience with mods has had some pretty shitty moments.  My mining thread is impossible to have any sort of discussion due to deletion of anyone who posts anything out of fear they're trying to inflate their post count.  Additionally, I've had users outright disrupt honest projects with lies repeatedly for years, post personal information, make up events that never happened, etc. with next to no repercussions.  Those in charge have even asked people to forgive users for harassing and breaking the rules here to troll me.  I've also had for sale threads moved from their appropriate sections & countless on topic posts of mine deleted.  I don't know if the mods are overworked, undermanaged, play favorites, or just don't care, but it seems like there are probably a lot of people on the internet who would love to have such a high paying job requiring such a low skill level and would probably do an honest job at it without rushing through and trying to handle reports without really looking into any of them.  

Are you serious?
My issues are just nothing compared to what you are speaking about.

[Pmalek]

Let me sum up what has been said so far in this thread. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.

One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".

From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.

Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?           

[johnwhitestar]

Let me sum up what has been said so far in this thread. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.

One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".

From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.

Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?          

All you are summarising here is not relevant for the topic I've opened in this thread.

I think writing "Great!" to a community member in a thread that has not so many people following it adds much more value to the forum than insisting that the rule that prohibits posting just one word make sense and has to be executed religiously regardless any other thing.

[suchmoon]

the rule that prohibits posting just one word

The way you keep repeating this seems to indicate that you will never accept any other explanation than the one you made up before starting this thread. There is no such rule. The list of rules is pinned at the top of this board, check it out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

[johnwhitestar]

the rule that prohibits posting just one word

The way you keep repeating this seems to indicate that you will never accept any other explanation than the one you made up before starting this thread. There is no such rule. The list of rules is pinned at the top of this board, check it out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

I see what you mean.

My post was moderated because of this:
" No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads."

Which has the following explanation:
"1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads."

I've also explained why I think it was not only not pointless but also important to post what I posted, in fact I also re-posted it again as you can see using the link in the OP.

If I keep repeating "just one word" it's to be more direct in expressing what I mean, maybe I have a wrong way to express myself.

What I truly keep repeating here is that if the rule doesn't let the normal people like me (that are not doing any harm, any paid signature campaign, any spamming, any bumping and so on) to comunicate comfortably it has to be changed or the people who apply the rule has to be more flexible.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the rules are created by people for the people and if the rule is not perfect it can be improved and it's a good thing to discuss about.

About two years ago I complained with themos about the impossibility to login using Tor here and now I've discovered  a solution was found to solve that issue.

I'm used to speak much more earlier about the issues so people are being aggressive towards me because they are not seeing any issue, but later on they realize there is an issue and change things.

Rarely my merit is being recognized though.

[libert19]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

[johnwhitestar]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

[libert19]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

[Findingnemo]

Only the moderator who deleted it can explain it why it was deleted,

I can understand your feeling but that's how it used to be in bitcointalk so we have no choice other than accepting it.


Adding the reason for post deletion can be valuable and avoid threads like this in future when a moderator delete a post and leave a note for doing it discussed many times already but there is no progress about it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

One gets the impression that every word, and possibly every letter of the OP, as they say, is "worth its weight in gold"
Are you inviting every user whose posts have been deleted to come into the meta and find out the reason?
Let's take a look at the actmyname theme. Just imagine how many resentful users will come here with proof of the value of their posts.
Due to 9 posts, the second page of this drama is already underway.
You belong to a community, and you must respect the rules. In the end, for the future, persuade yourself to write a little more meaningful posts. Agree that the forum is not messengers, where interjections and emoticons replace emotions.

[johnwhitestar]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

Your original comment shouldn't generally tolerated as it doesn't add any value except to your pockets.

My reply to your comment even being just one word communicate all that in one word, but of course my comment is most likely to be moderated and the 30% of the spam comments like your I've got here are perfectly in line with the "rule" I must respect, as someone has said in the comment just above:

You belong to a community, and you must respect the rules.

Just imagine how many resentful users will come here with proof of the value of their posts.

Not many as you can see, in fact for the moment there are very few here.
If someone posts just a spam comment (that is contrary to mine "Great!" comment is against the first rule of the forum), he won't be here complaining.
Since I haven't posted a spam comment, because it was a conclusion of a two weeks work I participated I'm complaining, because in my opinion the moderator should understand if my comment is a spam or not. Being a comment just one word comment doesn't automatically means the mentioned rule is involved.

I agree to respect the rules, but who applies them has to respect me as well and treat me as an honest contributor and not as a spammer which I'm not.

[libert19]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

Your original comment shouldn't generally tolerated as it doesn't add any value except to your pockets.

My reply to your comment even being just one word communicate all that in one word, but of course my comment is most likely to be moderated and the 30% of the spam comments like your I've got here are perfectly in line with the "rule" I have to respect, as someone has said in the comment just above.

No, my comment will also get nuked, I knew it when I wrote it.

[FIFA worldcup]

I've had worse. One user asked a yes/no question. I answered "no". My post was deleted. I cried for a couple of days but I got over it. I think. Still getting misty-eyed when I think about it. It took me a 2, maybe even 3 seconds to craft that totally-on-topic and very useful response. The forum is now so much worse without that valuable contribution.

I think if a person (most probably a newbie would do such a thing) repeatedly posts one liners like Great, OK, Yes , No should be deleted but if anyone rarely do such post then these should not be treated as spam.

As for your example, instead of writing only No if you have written as "No, I don't agree with you and my answer for your question is No. So you can consider my response on your view point as No" . This will make it a constructive post