Post your experience of being moderated here

[johnwhitestar]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

Your original comment shouldn't generally tolerated as it doesn't add any value except to your pockets.

My reply to your comment even being just one word communicate all that in one word, but of course my comment is most likely to be moderated and the 30% of the spam comments like your I've got here are perfectly in line with the "rule" I have to respect, as someone has said in the comment just above.

No, my comment will also get nuked, I knew it when I wrote it.

Let's see then....

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[JohnBitCo]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

Your original comment shouldn't generally tolerated as it doesn't add any value except to your pockets.

My reply to your comment even being just one word communicate all that in one word, but of course my comment is most likely to be moderated and the 30% of the spam comments like your I've got here are perfectly in line with the "rule" I have to respect, as someone has said in the comment just above.

No, my comment will also get nuked, I knew it when I wrote it.

Let's see then....

My concern is that do such comments get deleted because some people report them ? 
Or they are directly seen by the mods and they delete them ?

[johnwhitestar]

Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?

Maybe

This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.

Your original comment shouldn't generally tolerated as it doesn't add any value except to your pockets.

My reply to your comment even being just one word communicate all that in one word, but of course my comment is most likely to be moderated and the 30% of the spam comments like your I've got here are perfectly in line with the "rule" I have to respect, as someone has said in the comment just above.

No, my comment will also get nuked, I knew it when I wrote it.

Let's see then....

My concern is that do such comments get deleted because some people report them ?  
Or they are directly seen by the mods and they delete them ?

They don't see them. Or someone reports or they do some causal research deleting what they just don't like.

And apparently nobody checks what they are deleting and why.

At least that's what I've got from this conversation.

I helped some fix an issue the thread was six or seven posts we got the issue fixed. so I post this

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

hello, i have just started to mine LTC with bitmain antminer L3 on viabtc.com

so i have told that i have to choose pps+ to get rewarded of doge, but on website it is written that i have to choose ppln..

i have a question if you are mining on viabtc what did you choose? thanks for answer

pps+

thanks

good luck as doge is amazing at the moment

As I helped the guy get squared away and was merely being civil.

mods deleted it.  As being civil and encouraging new people seems to be frowned upon.


I have no signature for profit as I no longer believe in doing that. But that is simply the way of this forum it doe not care if you are polite or civil .

This indeed is a good example of one word comment that delivers value and that shouldn't have been moderated.

[Pmalek]

My concern is that do such comments get deleted because some people report them ? 
Or they are directly seen by the mods and they delete them ?

Both of those things happen. If you report a post, it will go on the to do list of the responsible staff member who then has to take action. Depending on what it it is, the post can get deleted, merged with a previous one, or left the way it is if the mod is unsure.

Welsh said himself that he doesn't just sit around and wait for other members to report something. He browses the sections he is responsible for and deleted whatever he feels breaks the rules: 

Also, regarding it potentially not being reported. Usually, I tend to go through some of the sections I moderate, and delete replies which haven't been reported, but I believe to be breaking the guidelines. That's just something I do, and I'm sure other moderators here do it too. Same as if we just happen upon your response, like any other user instead of reporting it, we would just remove it if we believe it infringes the guidelines.

So, posts can be deleted whether or not they've actually been reported, but this doesn't mean we are targeting you.

[FIFA worldcup]

They don't see them. Or someone reports or they do some causal research deleting what they just don't like.

So this means that the responsibilities also lies with the ones who reports them only to get their number of correct reports count increase.
So many people have so many different motives here.

[suchmoon]

I've had worse. One user asked a yes/no question. I answered "no". My post was deleted. I cried for a couple of days but I got over it. I think. Still getting misty-eyed when I think about it. It took me a 2, maybe even 3 seconds to craft that totally-on-topic and very useful response. The forum is now so much worse without that valuable contribution.

I think if a person (most probably a newbie would do such a thing) repeatedly posts one liners like Great, OK, Yes , No should be deleted but if anyone rarely do such post then these should not be treated as spam.

As for your example, instead of writing only No if you have written as "No, I don't agree with you and my answer for your question is No. So you can consider my response on your view point as No" . This will make it a constructive post  

I think you're falling for the OP's fallacy that only word count matters. If you just add fluff like your example - it would still be a low value post. It might be less likely to be reported or otherwise noticed by mods, and that's how many spammers are able to skate by, but that doesn't make it right. Adding substance to the post, i.e. explaining why the answer is "no", or why someone/something is "great", in a manner that is useful to other users - that might make it better. But the real solution is to not make such posts.

The other part of that fallacy is that "thanks" or "great" or whatever makes someone polite, and lack of such one-word replies makes someone rude... no, it doesn't. There is no such expectation here. Unfortunately this texting/chatting nonsense is infiltrating everything - from business e-mails to discussion forums and it will inevitably kill this site too. But until then why don't we stop looking at those deleted posts as some sort of crime and take it as a learning opportunity.

[johnwhitestar]

They don't see them. Or someone reports or they do some causal research deleting what they just don't like.

So this means that the responsibilities also lies with the ones who reports them only to get their number of correct reports count increase.
So many people have so many different motives here.

Interesting insight.

But the real solution is to not make such posts.

The real solution is to create the rules that works for the people, not to create a subset that accepts absurd rules.

The other part of that fallacy is that "thanks" or "great" or whatever makes someone polite, and lack of such one-word replies makes someone rude... no, it doesn't.

The construction [if]... [then]...[else]..[end if] make sense in the same manner as "Thank you"-"Np" construction in the human communication.
The construction "Thank you" - [?] doesn't make sense in the same manner as [if]...[then]...[else]...[nothing here even if it should be]. It just doesn't work.

The moderator has to do his work well distinguishing where is the spam and where is the natural human communication if he fails doing so he is just another meaningless bot, which is what we are supposed to be fighting with those rules.

The other way of thinking here is that I have to learn moderators moods (because I'm asked to comply with their interpretation not with the rule itself) and if I wasn't able to it's my fault.

[suchmoon]

The real solution is to create the rules that works for the people, not to create a subset that accepts absurd rules.

The rules have worked fine "for the people" for years. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.

The construction [if]... [then]...[else]..[end if] make sense in the same manner as "Thank you"-"Np" construction for instance.
The construction "Thank you" - [?] doesn't make sense in the same manner as [if]...[then]...[else]...[nothing here even if it should be be].

If works perfectly fine without "end if" in python or in C-style single-statement form and it works perfectly fine without the fluffy-cuddly chatter on this forum. We don't need to start all threads with single-word "Hi" post, or end them with "thanks" or "best regards" posts.

[johnwhitestar]

The rules have worked fine "for the people" for years.

Maybe you are right. However many things have worked well for years and then was changed into something better.

If works perfectly fine without "end if" in python or in C-style single-statement form

I knew you'd tell it.

...it works perfectly fine without the fluffy-cuddly chatter on this forum. We don't need to start all threads with single-word "Hi" post, or end them with "thanks" or "best regards" posts.

I agree with your opinion and you can do as you wish, but your opinion is forced on me through absurd rules (or even worse, its interpretations), so I can't do as I wish, that's the issue.

I have to be afraid to communicate normally because someone has decided it's better another way around. That's not cool, IMO.

[Lafu]

When i started reporting there was a lot of threads and posts like " great " and "very nice"
I havnt reported one your posts or in your thread , ages ago mostly it was some kind of bots and Accounts that pumping a thread with that.
Maybe just spread out your posting on that and i guess you will find the words for write back to the Users you help.
Personal i have not maked a bad experience of being moderated.

[Halab]

The moderator has to do his work well distinguishing where is the spam and where is the natural human communication if he fails doing so he is just another meaningless bot, which is what we are supposed to be fighting with those rules.

You must also understand that no moderator is in your head. If behind your "Great" we must understand "Great, this two-weeks problem is finally solved, I was happy to help you", you're not helping the moderation much.
In a perfect world, the moderator could have taken 10 minutes of his time to go back over the conversation and try to understand the context of that "Great" a little better.

Let's do some simple maths. And I give you a little secret, on average since July 2016, there are 16 405 reports per month across all Bitcointalk.
The Altcoins section is probably the section where there are the most reports (but I don't have the exact numbers), let's say 15% of reports come from the Altcoins section (Discussions, Ann, etc...).
4 moderators can act on these sections : Welsh, Mprep, Hilariousandco and Mr Big. There are also patrollers (for newbies) and admins who can moderate, but let's ignore them to simplify the calculations.

16405 *15% = 2460 reports in the Altcoins section
2460 / 4 mods = 615 reports per mod (For the record, if I have 20-30 reports a month in the french section to handle, it's a big month for me)
615 * 10min = 6150 min
6150 min / 60 = 102 hours
102h / 24h = 4.25 days

So these 4 mods should spend more than 4 full days per month (sometimes more, sometimes less) just for the Altcoins section. Knowing that the GMs handle other sections, and there are surely reports that take much more time to analyse. And unless I'm mistaken, but being a moderator on Bitcointalk is not a full time job, and we have a job, a life too.

So yes, in your case, the naughty mod had a report on your "Great" and after a few seconds of consideration, he only saw Great = 0 value, so he deleted it. But why a mod should take his time to decipher a "Great", when you didn't take the time to recontextualize your post, to provide a little substance to your post ? Your time is more precious than the time of the mod ? 

[johnwhitestar]

The moderator has to do his work well distinguishing where is the spam and where is the natural human communication if he fails doing so he is just another meaningless bot, which is what we are supposed to be fighting with those rules.

You must also understand that no moderator is in your head. If behind your "Great" we must understand "Great, this two-weeks problem is finally solved, I was happy to help you", you're not helping the moderation much.
In a perfect world, the moderator could have taken 10 minutes of his time to go back over the conversation and try to understand the context of that "Great" a little better.

Let's do some simple maths. And I give you a little secret, on average since July 2016, there are 16 405 reports per month across all Bitcointalk.
The Altcoins section is probably the section where there are the most reports (but I don't have the exact numbers), let's say 15% of reports come from the Altcoins section (Discussions, Ann, etc...).
4 moderators can act on these sections : Welsh, Mprep, Hilariousandco and Mr Big. There are also patrollers (for newbies) and admins who can moderate, but let's ignore them to simplify the calculations.

16405 *15% = 2460 reports in the Altcoins section
2460 / 4 mods = 615 reports per mod (For the record, if I have 20-30 reports a month in the french section to handle, it's a big month for me)
615 * 10min = 6150 min
6150 min / 60 = 102 hours
102h / 24h = 4.25 days

So these 4 mods should spend more than 4 full days per month (sometimes more, sometimes less) just for the Altcoins section. Knowing that the GMs handle other sections, and there are surely reports that take much more time to analyse. And unless I'm mistaken, but being a moderator on Bitcointalk is not a full time job, and we have a job, a life too.

So yes, in your case, the naughty mod had a report on your "Great" and after a few seconds of consideration, he only saw Great = 0 value, so he deleted it. But why a mod should take his time to decipher a "Great", when you didn't take the time to recontextualize your post, to provide a little substance to your post ? Your time is more precious than the time of the mod ?  

Thank you for your explanation. Consider I'm losing my hours too here right now because of just one word. So maybe it somehow important to me.

Wouldn't it make sense to automate the moderation process a bit?

I think it will take like less than 10 minutes of your time to create a query to see which are the users that post across the different threads short sentences of just one-two words and to focus the moderators attention just on them.
If there are people like me that usually stay on the same thread and yes, maybe I'm sinning with some short sentence, but maybe it can save you a lot of time letting me doing that if it's not that frequent?

If I produce usually let say 4000 characters posts and sometimes there are 1-2 words posts it's not a big deal after all, chances are I'm doing that in context of normal human communication.

Don't know whether it can make sense.

[Delightcrypto1]

I have got moderated once though i got to know there scenario that makes post deleted. Such of kind may be plagiarism, assaulted post and may be unnecessary complement.

[Cryptojurnalist]

My experience of being moderated are numerous but among few is being substantially ban for a week and also how my post were deleted severally. Though I almost stop participating in the forum chat but I have to summon courage and continue. I learnt to improve myself when ever I got moderate. I knew everyone here has an experience but however being moderated is not option to quit forum but an option to support forum through quality post. I suggest we all should improve the quality post, only then our post will be free from being moderated.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I suggest we all should improve the quality post, only then our post will be free from being moderated.

I suggest you work on your own posts, because if you've already been banned and have had posts deleted, you're probably a garbage shitposter who's here for all the wrong reasons.  If English is a problem for you (which it seems like it is), I'd also suggest checking out whatever local board is most appropriate for you.  What you wrote had very poor grammar and sentence structure, and in addition it was repetitive.

No wonder you haven't earned any merits yet.