⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ COPA America ⚽ Prediction Pool Discussion Thread

[vd309]

I am in. Just PM me when you start collecting entry fee cos I can forget to check in here. Thanks.

[Trofo]

I'm with you ... and while I await the launch of the new season of the Premier League predictions, this is a great idea for me to pass the time!

So maybe later I will ask a few more questions that interest me.

I am going to invite the Gosu gang, just thought of that

Hmm, another gang ... I'm just wondering who's in it.

I am putting you in as participant even though I am not 100% sure you are in. "I am with you..." is not exactly hard commitment   Complain if I got it wrong. Feel free to shoot any question after I start the pool officially. I will try to edit the OP in a way that is answers all the usual questions so maybe there will not be the need for further explanations

Gosu gang leader is @efialtis and I don't think they are official Bitcointalk gang yet but they should be. Check his thread and webpage. I can only recommend it, he is doing the good work there.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262141.0;topicseen

I am playing poker with those guys so I'll try to do some recruitment between the hands.

I am in. Just PM me when you start collecting entry fee cos I can forget to check in here. Thanks.

No problem, I will probably start collecting money 2 weeks before first match and I'll shoot the PM to all the people on participants lists who do not make a deposit in the first week or clearly state they will not be part of this pool.

[casperBGD]

bump, for more participants

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2021/05/25/copa-america-usa/

after Colombia, it is now on Argentina, and Copa America could be played in USA in the end, because of Covid situation
if true, this could bring strange results, teams will play on the fields that they do not know, probably without audience, and it will be difficult to prepare for the tournament

[morvillz7z]

to expand on the article above^:

Of course, if the Copa America tournament is moved from Argentina at such short notice, and out of South America altogether, it would mean that a lot of logistical plans would have to be changed.

That would take extra time, and that could mean the tournament being pushed back a few weeks. On the face of it this makes sense.

Pushed back? c'mon now they really want to sabotage our 24-hour football marathon starting next month, don't they? 

as Argentina is currently in lockdown and all soccer games have been called off.

I'm not sure about that, Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana are currently underway (group stage). I had a few bets last night as River Plate, Racing Club, and Newell's Old Boys all had games...

Fans can attend games in pretty large numbers if the tournament is held in the USA, plus the Copa America Centenario was a huge success when it was held across the United States of America in the summer of 2016.

The only advantage of moving games away from South America is that there may be more fans, as i didn't see any last night. They still don't know what to do @CONMEBOL with two and a half weeks left, huh?

[LTU_btc]

bump, for more participants

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2021/05/25/copa-america-usa/

after Colombia, it is now on Argentina, and Copa America could be played in USA in the end, because of Covid situation
if true, this could bring strange results, teams will play on the fields that they do not know, probably without audience, and it will be difficult to prepare for the tournament

I think it's not easy to move tournament to other location when there is just few week left. But when we live in such crazy times, it's difficult to get surprised.
I think for teams it's not big deal if tournament will be moved to USA. And it's not likely that tournament would be held without spectators. If you watch NBA playoffs or other sports from USA, now they allow spectators and not small numbers. For example, New York Knicks allow to fill up to 75% of arena capacity if I'm not mistaken.

[Trofo]

Ok guys, the time has come to start collecting the money for the pool, I wanted to give you as much time as possible.
BTC address where I will be escrowing the funds:
1PUknW57jM21p5WnLCWqFcZw7n1QUUBK63

Buy in for the pool is 1 mBTC = 0.001 BTC or little more than 35$ at the moment, before somebody complains it is a bit high read on about great sponsorship deal we will enjoy


I am pleased to inform all of you that I have secured sponsorship deal with hands down best crypto bookie and my favorite bookie overall - Sportsbet.

1. We will get 20 mBTC (over 700$ at the moment and hopefully much more soon) to boost our pot which sounds great but goodies does not stop there

2. Every participant gets 0.5 mBTC free bet on Sportsbet. Only conditions you have to have Sportsbet account and you have to send me your Sportsbet username along with buy in transaction (want to make it as easy as possible for Steve to award them, if you are very concerned for your privacy maybe you can send your username directly to Steve but I don't see the problem of sharing username). This makes it almost like you are paying just 0.5 mBTC for a month of fun + some great prizes. Surely that is all now?

3. I will also organize weekly competitions for participants only. Rewards will be free bets at Sportsbet. I am open for competition ideas, I was thinking something like, team to score most goals, team which wins with highest margin or player who scores most goals. Details will be announced shortly before Copa starts.

I'll update the OP tomorrow when I have more time and pretty it a little but wanted to share big news with you guys immediately.

[morvillz7z]

^ @Trofo, you did a great job in securing sponsorship for our pool!

With a prize pool of around 30-40mbtc, a bunch of free bets and whatnot, $35 entry fee is nothing imo! It will be awesome if we get at least 15+ participants.

I've already paid and sent you the txid / Sb username via pm.

In all likelihood, Copa America will remain in Argentina, despite speculations for it to be moved to the United States:

"Argentina presents a “strict protocol” to CONMEBOL to host 2021 Copa America"
source: https://mundoalbiceleste.com/2021/05/27/argentina-presents-a-strict-protocol-to-conmebol-to-host-copa-america-2021/

The Argentine government presented a strict protocol to CONMEBOL for the realization of Copa America 2021, to be held in the country. In a meeting that took place at the Quinta de Olivos, the organizational and logistical aspects were evaluated -with the eventual authorization of additional venue’s- and everything concerning the sanitary protocols.

The analysis of this CONMEBOL Copa America and its sanitary protocols, so that it can be organized in the country, will remain under the rigorous study of officials of the Ministry of Health of the República Argentina. This was agreed by the President of the República Argentina, Alberto Fernández, and the head of CONMEBOL, Alejandro Domínguez.

[icopress]

At the moment, the transaction fees appear to be around $ 12 ... or 33% of the transfer amount. Therefore, I would like to inquire whether payment in USDT or BTC (TRC20)  is accepted? Or we can do it differently ... someone of us who is ready to accept USDT from several people in the end will just make 1 transfer to Trofo's address, (I just want to say that I would rather put that $ 10 in a common pool or tip someone, rather than waste it on a commission).

[Trofo]

At the moment, the transaction fees appear to be around $ 12 ... or 33% of the transfer amount. Therefore, I would like to inquire whether payment in USDT or BTC (TRC20)  is accepted? Or we can do it differently ... someone of us who is ready to accept USDT from several people in the end will just make 1 transfer to Trofo's address, (I just want to say that I would rather put that $ 10 in a common pool or tip someone, rather than waste it on a commission).

Don't think that is true. I sent BTC twice today and paid each transaction about 1.5$ and they confirmed inside 3 blocks.

But we can of course do something like you suggested and lower it even more.

[icopress]

Don't think that is true. I sent BTC twice today and paid each transaction about 1.5$ and they confirmed inside 3 blocks.

But we can of course do something like you suggested and lower it even more.

Then there is no problem ... I will check the details a little later, but I only said what I saw ^{[https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html#3m]}

Easy way to cut transaction costs in half if you are playing both this pool and EURO pool is that you pair up with the buddy and one of you pays fees for both of you in Copa and the other one pays fees for both of you in Euro.

Yes, perhaps of all the options discussed, this one looks the most reasonable [in case of high transaction fees].

USDT or BTC (TRC20) would be better alternatives but the fees will remain inevitable when the need to convert to mainnet arrives...

It seems to me that this is not such a significant problem, given that in this situation, the conversion will need to be performed only once.

[Harkorede]

Don't think that is true. I sent BTC twice today and paid each transaction about 1.5$ and they confirmed inside 3 blocks.

But we can of course do something like you suggested and lower it even more.

Then there is no problem ... I will check the details a little later, but I only said what I saw ^{[https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html#3m]}

USDT or BTC (TRC20) would be better alternatives but the fees will remain inevitable when the need to convert to mainnet arrives... The best to do now is to send with the lowest (reasonable) fee that you can afford, the competition doesn't underway until mid June which is enough time for it to get confirmed, provided you'll not be needing to make another transaction from the same input/ouput.

[tomahawk9]

@Trofo  


good job
Will send my tx/username over the weekend

At the moment, the transaction fees appear to be around $ 12 ... or 33% of the transfer amount.

that's way too much. I sent a tx earlier today with 40 sats fee, like 3 bucks, and got confirmed in 1 hour    you could go as low as 5-10 sats and it'll get confirmed within 24h or so

[Trofo]

By all means try to pool transactions. It helps now to save some money and it also helps to lower the amount of inputs when I dish out the prizes. Easy way to cut transaction costs in half if you are playing both this pool and EURO pool is that you pair up with the buddy and one of you pays fees for both of you in Copa and the other one pays fees for both of you in Euro. I'll probably do it that way with cryptofrka.

If some you have extra chips on SwC poker site I'll take 1000 and pay buy in for you Need some money there and P2P transfers are free there.

If you end up paying for your tx just send it cheap and turn on "replace by fee" option. You wait for it to confirm and if it doesn't you raise the fee when date gets near.

[cryptofrka]

By all means try to pool transactions. It helps now to save some money and it also helps to lower the amount of inputs when I dish out the prizes. Easy way to cut transaction costs in half if you are playing both this pool and EURO pool is that you pair up with the buddy and one of you pays fees for both of you in Copa and the other one pays fees for both of you in Euro. I'll probably do it that way with cryptofrka.

If some you have extra chips on SwC poker site I'll take 1000 and pay buy in for you Need some money there and P2P transfers are free there.

If you end up paying for your tx just send it cheap and turn on "replace by fee" option. You wait for it to confirm and if it doesn't you raise the fee when date gets near.

You'll do anything to drag me into another pool, won't you?

Ok, count me in here as well. I see the rewards really are great, my only downside is that outside of the top 4 teams I probably don't know more than 3 players per team.
At least I'll follow Copa this season then, I usually skip it until the semifinals.

[Trofo]

You'll do anything to drag me into another pool, won't you?

What can I say, I love playing against local guys which I can beat and then gloat when we meet for beer. big_daddy is not fun since he always kicks our ass

I have created the pool on Superbru and you will get link for joining after sending the the buy in money. Please remember to send me your Sportsbet username (to award free bet) and Superbru username (I have to manually confirm you to pool) in the same PM with tx confirmation. You can also send me the name of your favorite team on the Copa to add a bit flair - check the table in the OP. I'll keep Sportsbet username private and other information will be publicly displayed in the OP.

I am already in the pool since I created the pool even though I did not pay, privileges of being captain Don't worry I'll pay same as everybody else just waiting to pool some transactions end eliminate extra fees.

If I forgot something or you have some extra questions let me know guys. Now is the time to make this the best pool ever on this forum.

[casperBGD]

~snip

that's way too much. I sent a tx earlier today with 40 sats fee, like 3 bucks, and got confirmed in 1 hour    you could go as low as 5-10 sats and it'll get confirmed within 24h or so

agree, just sent a fee for the pool, with 3 sats, and it is expected to be confirmed within next block
if you are planning to join the competition, it is probably the best time to pay the fee

@Trofo, I will send you PM as soon as the transaction is confirmed, good to be in, and you managed to get nice sponsorship and prizes (sent you a PM)

regarding third part of the competition, since there are two groups on the Copa, maybe guessing number of goals per group in group stage could be nice to have (player/team to have highest number of goals on the competition could be everyone guessing the same)

[Trofo]

regarding third part of the competition, since there are two groups on the Copa, maybe guessing number of goals per group in group stage could be nice to have (player/team to have highest number of goals on the competition could be everyone guessing the same)

Per sponsorship deal we will get additional free bet on weekly basis awarded to winner of that mini competition. So it is only logical that we have a winner once per week. Idea is good but I'll have to check when the games are finishing to see if it is feasible. I will probably lean towards something with shorter time frame.


Edit: what' s up with all this Uruguay supporting? I expected to see Brazil and Argentina supporters and then all our early birds went for Uruguay I guess Suarez and Cavani have a good chance to open any defense even if they have a lot of years on their back.
 

[casperBGD]

~snip
Edit: what' s up with all this Uruguay supporting? I expected to see Brazil and Argentina supporters and then all our early birds went for Uruguay I guess Suarez and Cavani have a good chance to open any defense even if they have a lot of years on their back.
 

actually, for me it is Forlan time that draws me to Urugvay, and I when sign up to cheer for some team, it is usually long-term commitment (shit, I am still Auxxere fan, and rarely follow Ligue1)
for Brasil and Argentina, I was up to Brasil since 90-ties, but more recently, it is equal, do not have any preference between the two

[LTU_btc]

Edit: what' s up with all this Uruguay supporting? I expected to see Brazil and Argentina supporters and then all our early birds went for Uruguay I guess Suarez and Cavani have a good chance to open any defense even if they have a lot of years on their back.
 

I also like Uruguay. I felt in love with this team in 2010 World Cup. I remember that Diego Forlan was amazing then. And that 1/4 final with Ghana was one of the most memorable games I ever saw. Suarez handball on last minute and missed penalty by Gyan. I also feel sympathy for Uruguay because it's small country with little population - underdogs against Brazil or Argentina.
I think I'm going to pay fee later today when I will be at home. And it's nice sponsorship deal with Sportsbet.io you got @Trofo .

[DIA7]

Hi Trofo i sent u pm to join but i forgot to tell you my favorite team,
I also cheering for Uruguay, i think everyone wants them to win is because they always shine in this competition.
as they are leading in the alltime winners with 15 titles followed by Argentina 14 titles and  Brazil with 9.
i see them favorites to win because it could be the last time that for Cavani and Suarez to help their county winning one more trophy despite they are still firing all cylinders.
other contenders like Brazil and Argentina on paper they have better chances but they are not very convincing sometimes.