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May 15, 2021, 07:08:48 PM
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I got phished into sending my Seed Words/Seed Phrase to a hacker. He stole 1500 € worth of ETH (which I know are forever lost).

I purchased 2 months ago some tokens that are still not generated. They will be generated and distributed the 29th of May 2021.

I fear the hackers might have a script that automatically steals all the cryptos and tokens that land on my metamask in milliseconds and I won't have time to withdraw them manually.

Can anything be done about it?

The team behind the token sale is searching for a solution already to maybe modify the smart contract and send the tokens to another address. Is it possible?

I am very scared. Thank you
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May 15, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
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Can anything be done about it?
You mean you're planning to beat the hacker to withdraw the incoming tokens? Don't bet on it. The best thing you can do is to never use that wallet again in your future investments or transactions.

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The team behind the token sale is searching for a solution already to maybe modify the smart contract and send the tokens to another address. Is it possible?
They can modify the code. I don't see any issue with them once they verified that you are still the original buyer.

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May 15, 2021, 08:12:14 PM
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Can anything be done about it?
Yes. Prevention.

You must download the official metamask wallet and bookmark the downloading page and don't just search on the web if you're downloading if you mostly uninstall it from time to time. In other cases, if you've been a victim of a phishing website, think of how it happened, how did you landed to that phishing site.

Always check and verify if it's the legit and official metamask wallet.

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May 15, 2021, 08:58:30 PM
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Can anything be done about it?
Yes. Prevention.

You must download the official metamask wallet and bookmark the downloading page and don't just search on the web if you're downloading if you mostly uninstall it from time to time. In other cases, if you've been a victim of a phishing website, think of how it happened, how did you landed to that phishing site.

Always check and verify if it's the legit and official metamask wallet.

You are right. I messed up.

Other than that, is there anything else than can be done to prevent the tokens from being stolen?


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Can anything be done about it?
You mean you're planning to beat the hacker to withdraw the incoming tokens? Don't bet on it. The best thing you can do is to never use that wallet again in your future investments or transactions.

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The team behind the token sale is searching for a solution already to maybe modify the smart contract and send the tokens to another address. Is it possible?
They can modify the code. I don't see any issue with them once they verified that you are still the original buyer.

If they could modify the code of the smart contract that would be absolutely helpful. Do you know any case where that actually happened?
How would that be done?
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May 15, 2021, 09:04:16 PM
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If they could modify the code of the smart contract that would be absolutely helpful. Do you know any case where that actually happened?
How would that be done?
There's nothing much you can do except wait for the team to help change the address if they can.

I assume that you address doesn't have any more ETH as of now. In case they send the tokens, someone has to first send ETH into the address in order to withdraw them. It will be a game of chance. Either you or the hacker will be the first to withdraw the tokens.

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May 15, 2021, 10:27:13 PM
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How did you get Phished or hacked? I always tell people to always verify any website from the project team before using it. There is really nothing much you can do. Just make sure you don't use the wallet again and try to move the new coins before the hacker gets to it.

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May 15, 2021, 10:30:11 PM
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Sorry for your loss @op.
Honnestly, I don't think the project team will change the smart contract especially if the invested amount is not that big. Due to the network fees, deploying smart contracts is a bit expensive right now, so I wouldn't get my hopes up too high if I were you.
However, you can ask them when they are going to destribute the tokens exactly to be ready and withdraw them as fast as possible. You should also activate the notification system on Etherscan.io for your address to receive an email whenever your address receives a transaction.

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May 15, 2021, 10:39:11 PM
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You must take your coins as soon as possible after the distribution already happened. Try to watch the distribution event to make sure you can get it just in a few seconds. I do believe when the hacker took your money on your wallet and then they will not care about your wallet anymore and this gives you a chance to take or move all of your coins from your wallet to another wallet.
You must do this as soon as the coin will have distributed by developers.

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May 15, 2021, 11:22:23 PM
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You must take your coins as soon as possible after the distribution already happened. Try to watch the distribution event to make sure you can get it just in a few seconds. I do believe when the hacker took your money on your wallet and then they will not care about your wallet anymore and this gives you a chance to take or move all of your coins from your wallet to another wallet.
You must do this as soon as the coin will have distributed by developers.

Problem is, the hacker knows about the token (he posed as one of the admins)
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May 16, 2021, 02:37:59 AM
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You have to create new metamask account and you should be becarefull to download metamask because there alot of phising site. When I start to download metamask, i looking for the official site of metamask from the official website of Ethereum in Coingecko or Coinmarketcap. And others tips is always use anti virus on device that use to access the personal wallet and never click unknow website because many bad people in crypto space.

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May 16, 2021, 02:45:15 AM
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Only the team members can help you out so that it won't be deliver to your old address which has been hack already. So communicate with them, create a new Metamask account and protect it this time.

Yes, you are right, they have bots and scripts that will stole your funds once it is delivered it your wallet. I know someone who have been hack and he says that same, it will be just a matter of seconds for hackers to steal it.

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May 16, 2021, 03:48:40 AM
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If they could modify the code of the smart contract that would be absolutely helpful. Do you know any case where that actually happened?
How would that be done?
There's nothing much you can do except wait for the team to help change the address if they can.

I assume that you address doesn't have any more ETH as of now. In case they send the tokens, someone has to first send ETH into the address in order to withdraw them. It will be a game of chance. Either you or the hacker will be the first to withdraw the tokens.
correct, ask them to change your address and never used that wallet again.. Indeed OP you said that they will distribute the token on 29th of may this year.. So there's still a chance for you to ask for address change..  And you know because of eth gas fees for sure there are some delay on it or has possibility to use another way of payment in my opinion especially if they use erc20.. Just try to contact them and share your prob maybe there's a chance for you to save your purchase token.
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May 16, 2021, 04:32:37 AM
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How did you get Phished or hacked? I always tell people to always verify any website from the project team before using it. There is really nothing much you can do. Just make sure you don't use the wallet again and try to move the new coins before the hacker gets to it.
There are many ways scammers put phishing sites into the search engine. I had already much time talked to do not use it for searching wallet. when you have time try it and you will find it much. Bookmarked into the browser is the best way after you got the right site.

When I start to download metamask, i looking for the official site of metamask from the official website of Ethereum in Coingecko or Coinmarketcap.
I won't be searching links to the link it's risky either if the website uncompromised and put the pishing link, Simple, metamask only has 1 link; https://metamask.io/ , just bookmarked into the browser.

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May 16, 2021, 04:44:40 AM
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I've had a similar experience but in my case, i didn't give out my seed phrase. I sincerely don't know what went wrong, but I found out that upon logging into my meta mask wallet from the chrome browser, I got notifications for withdraw of eth. I lost over 1 eth to the Scammer and each time I think about it, if feels really depressing..
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May 16, 2021, 06:00:11 AM
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The team behind the token sale is searching for a solution already to maybe modify the smart contract and send the tokens to another address. Is it possible?
The only people who can change this is the team behind this project that you took part in. Only they have control over the smart contact.

For now though, you need to take some precautions. Since your previous wallet seed is compromised, there is no meaning in trying to recover it. It would be better abandoned. Create a new wallet on MEW/Metamask and then use that for future coins. Make sure you are using a proper AV solution if using Windows OS. Bookmark the token sale sites way before they start to prevent phishing and dont download attachments from email senders that you do not recognize. Avoid responding to PMs in telegram too because that is how scammers are coming in on telegram.

A even better solution is getting a hardware wallet to keep your assets - a small investment for a good protection. Give it a thought when you cool down from this event.

And sorry to hear about your loss, though I know that saying this will not have any impact on your side since only the person who loses their money knows the real pain.

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May 16, 2021, 06:41:57 AM
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I'm not sure there is script for auto moving tokens to another wallet but I've seen the ETH one, the problem  here is to move tokens the scammer or hacker have to deposit ETH in the wallet as well so but the problem is even if you are fast enough you will still lose your ETH, to move the tokens out you still need to deposit ETH, I'd say abandon the wallet and move on

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If they could modify the code of the smart contract that would be absolutely helpful. Do you know any case where that actually happened?
How would that be done?
You said the tokens are not generated yet so that means they have enough time to make tweaks on the codes before distribution. How that would be done depends on their developers. It should not be that complicated but it will cost them time. They can also write a new contract if they don't or can't modify the code with your old address.

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May 16, 2021, 07:44:08 PM
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There are two options that you can use right now
The first is to get the help of the admins in changing the wallet address where your new tokens will be transfered to, if that can be done, then its great news and you wont havr to worry about losing your tokens

The second option is if the first option doesn't work (have some eth on standby to use as gas fee)
1. Create a new profile on etherscan.io and add the ETH Wallet address there
2. Create a alert on the wallet address so you will be alerted immediately when the token enters your wallet
3. Send the eth you intend to use as gas into the wallet
4. Immediately the confirmation is complete, send out your tokens

For this second method to work, you have to be very fast
And since you have the alerts and youre the  initiating the transactions, you have an edge over the hacker

I Wish you all the best of luck

I have once been hacked through meta mask and this was what i did when i receive some bounty tokens, you just have to be very fast about it..

I realized that the hacker still has my seed till this day, because he later sent out the extra $5 ETH that was left from what i sent for gas fees

I didn't fall victims the second time by simply being faster

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May 16, 2021, 09:23:45 PM
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The team behind the token sale is searching for a solution already to maybe modify the smart contract and send the tokens to another address. Is it possible?

I am very scared. Thank you
Smart contracts cannot be changed after activation. This is only possible if the developers have added this feature to the smart contract. (But it is dangerous to interact with such smart contracts, it can be fraudulent)



Use hardware wallets and you won't lose money if you download fake metamask.

My advice for you is to buy a hardware wallet. If you're only using the Ethereum ecosystem, the Ledger Nano S is enough for you, but I recommend getting the Ledger Nano X.
https://shop.ledger.com/
 Ledger is compatible with metamask and other services.

I do not want to give advice, because I do not know the policy of the developers of these projects.
You and the hacker have access to the private key, with which you can sign a message about the transfer of tokens to another address. Therefore, it is difficult to determine who is the hacker and who is the real owner, if you have not gone through the KYC procedure.



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May 16, 2021, 09:32:53 PM
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Can anything be done about it?
Yes. Prevention.

You must download the official metamask wallet and bookmark the downloading page and don't just search on the web if you're downloading if you mostly uninstall it from time to time. In other cases, if you've been a victim of a phishing website, think of how it happened, how did you landed to that phishing site.

Always check and verify if it's the legit and official metamask wallet.

You are right. I messed up.

Other than that, is there anything else than can be done to prevent the tokens from being stolen?
Through filling up of fake forms. It's the same as phishing but they use google forms to their victims and asking for the private keys or seeds.

When you see such, don't ever trust them and don't put your important details on it. Because that's likely a scam and it's only imitating the website that you're visiting especially metamask but they don't ask for that vital information.

It's known that you don't give your private keys to anyone even in wallets, they won't ask you that.

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