what's the diff between SecuX W10 vs SecuX W20?

[whofarted75]

I'm looking at these:
https://www.amazon.com/SecuX-W20-Crypto-Asset-Hardware-Wallet/dp/B07Q19WN6G/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=SecuX+W20&qid=1621119266&s=electronics&sr=1-2

https://www.amazon.com/SecuX-W10-Crypto-Asset-Hardware-Wallet/dp/B07NQ84L2S/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=SecuX+W20&qid=1621119266&s=electronics&sr=1-6

Going to  https://shop.secuxtech.com/ I only found 2 differences
1.) Blue tooth
2.) the SecuX-W20 is described as "Long battery life with Li-polymer battery."

If that's the only difference, why the price difference? $109.00 vs $69.00

Am I missing something?

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[Pmalek]

According to this comparison, both models support the same type of coins, use the same chip, and the same touch screen.

- W10 can only connect via a USB Micro-B connection while the W20 also supports Bluetooth 5.0.
- W10 can't be connected to mobile devices while the W20 is a cross-platform model that supports "macOS, Windows, Linux, Chromebook, iOS, and Android"

And you already mentioned the better battery in the W20 model.

[dkbit98]

If that's the only difference, why the price difference? $109.00 vs $69.00

Am I missing something?

Both wallets look almost identical from outside, they have exactly the same dimensions and Infineon secure element, but SecuX W10 don't have any battery, power can only be connected with cable (like ledger and trezor), and you can't connect it with any mobile devices.
SecuX W20 have rechargeable lithium polymer battery and you can connect it with smartphones using Bluetooth or cable.

Problem I have with both of this Chinese made hardware wallets is closed source software, you can't verify any code and you can use only their own specific software and servers, so Electrum or Wasabi is not supported.
One more thing I noticed is that there is no coin control and xpub information is exposed to google, cloudflare and other webiste, offering zero privacy.
I don't recommend anyone to waste money purchasing this devices.

[hugeblack]

I did not see the design of the two devices, but based on this quote, the cost of the physical devices could reach $ 30 due to Li-polymer battery (still wonder why not Li-ion,) Bluetooth support, software, and more currencies.

Going to  https://shop.secuxtech.com/ I only found 2 differences
1.) Blue tooth
2.) the SecuX-W20 is described as "Long battery life with Li-polymer battery."

If that's the only difference, why the price difference? $109.00 vs $69.00

Am I missing something?

If the interior design provides a 100% offline environment, it will be a good choice, but I do not see any advantages worth paying this amount with better alternatives.

If it is not possible to use it with open source wallets as electrum and others, I do not advise you to purchase it.

[whofarted75]

I'm having second thoughts because some of the people in the reviews are saying that your coins are being stored on their website and they're charging 1% fees when you transfer. I don't know if that's true but if it is that's kind of messed up. The information about it on the Amazon site says they do not store it on their website so I don't know.

Any suggestions? I'm guessing Ledger? 

I'm using Linux Mint, have Android phone, will "likely" use Electrum Bitcoin Wallet.

[dkbit98]

I'm having second thoughts because some of the people in the reviews are saying that your coins are being stored on their website and they're charging 1% fees when you transfer. I don't know if that's true but if it is that's kind of messed up. The information about it on the Amazon site says they do not store it on their website so I don't know.

Coins are not really stored either on their device or on their website but device is only holding seed phrases.
I recommend people to only use open source wallets like Electrum, and Trezor, Coldcard or Bitbox are very good open source hardware wallets and you can check this List of all Open Source Hardware Wallets.
Ledger wallet is also popular but keep in mind that it is closed source device and they had multiple customer information leaks so far.