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May 16, 2021, 06:31:02 AM
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It appears that the Biden Administration has begun another crackdown and this time with money laundering through exchanges. If you are an American looking for a safe exchange from the regulators, choose FTX or Coinbase. FTX’s founder is a donor to the Democratic party while Coinbase’s founder has met with congress this week. I would not be shocked if there was foul play.



According to a report today from Bloomberg, Binance Holdings is being investigated by the US Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service as officials look into the use of the exchange by employees and/or customers for money laundering and tax evasion.

Binance has denied any wrongdoing, and the report stresses that "not all inquiries lead to allegations of wrongdoing." Binance has pointed to its anti-money laundering program as a success, while stocking up in recent months on former US politicians and regulators to strengthen regulatory compliance. The firm hired former Senator Max Baucus of Montana in March, and brought on Comptroller of the Currency Brian Brooks to lead its US exchange.


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May 16, 2021, 09:21:50 AM
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You mean the exchange which kept opening and closing offices in various countries and tax havens around the world has been implicit in tax evasion? Well, I never! Roll Eyes First it was China, then Japan, then Taiwan, then Malta, then Bermuda, then the Cayman Islands, then Seychelles, then Jersey. Did I miss any out? Wonder where they will be off to next.

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Much of today's report focused on concerns that, prior to the creation of Binance.US, Binance had encouraged US-based users to bypass the rules by means of a virtual private network
Concerns? This is pretty much proven. They flat out told people they were being blocked because of their IP while offering "alternatives and solutions", while CZ tweeted "VPN is a necessity".
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May 17, 2021, 02:25:54 AM
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It is very clear something is wrong behind Binance. I have also speculated that they have been beneficiaries of loans from iFinex, Bitfinex, Tether to manipulate bitcoin.

In any case, the skeptical part of me is only saying that Brian Armstrong and Sam Bankman-Fried might be pushing government to move faster to kill Binance so they can take its market share hehehe.

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May 17, 2021, 02:37:49 AM
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This could be one reason why we had such a bearish short-term market the past few days. I wondered about it because I can see recently is all about Elon being himself on Twitter, lol. He was also mentioned at the end of the article, though.

Anyway, I think what has happened in their platform cannot be undone, and with what o_e_l_e_o said, it's weird to move continuously, IYKWIM.



In any case, the skeptical part of me is only saying that Brian Armstrong and Sam Bankman-Fried might be pushing government to move faster to kill Binance so they can take its market share hehehe.
Being the top exchange would bring a lot more value to their company for sure. I bet it would affect the crypto market so much once Binance is out of the picture. Anyway, FTX is currently racing to be at the top and the news about Coinbase being publicly traded is great as well. They are doing well.

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May 17, 2021, 05:12:13 AM
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In any case, the skeptical part of me is only saying that Brian Armstrong and Sam Bankman-Fried might be pushing government to move faster to kill Binance so they can take its market share hehehe.
Given how closely Coinbase already work with the US government, and given also how unethical and profit driven they are, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were pushing for this. Perhaps the government are using Coinbase's blockchain analysis technology to help track down these restriction-evading US customers.

Still, I can't see this killing Binance by any means. Absolutely worst case scenario is they are thrown out the US, but they will continue to operate globally, although I still don't think it will come to that. They'll get hit with a fine and that'll be that.
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May 17, 2021, 09:08:05 AM
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You can't really take seriously man with nickname CZ who is telling everyone that coins are SAFU, while he created his own centralized blockchain copies and multiple fake Bitcoins on different chains.
He was so ''good'' that he wanted to save people from paying high transaction fess, or there was something more behind the scenes, not to mention how people are reporting more and more issues with their exchange and withdrawals.

Instead of using Binance and other centralized exchanges why don't  we work more on creating better decentralized exchanges and P2P trading websites and wallets?
I know it's much easier to use centralized exchanges but we may pay a much higher price in the long run.

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May 17, 2021, 09:42:19 PM
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The market downturn probably has very little to do with the fact that Binance is getting cracked down on.

Sure, that is a catalyst, but the markets have been so frothy as of recent that a correction like this was inevitable.

I also don't think that Coinbase and other exchanges that seem to have a better relationship with Congress or whatnot are necessarily the sure bet as a retail investor. Their relationships can deteriorate as rapidly as they were established given the fact that Coinbase's IPO was a huge money grab for a lot of people.
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May 19, 2021, 04:05:12 AM
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In any case, the skeptical part of me is only saying that Brian Armstrong and Sam Bankman-Fried might be pushing government to move faster to kill Binance so they can take its market share hehehe.
Being the top exchange would bring a lot more value to their company for sure. I bet it would affect the crypto market so much once Binance is out of the picture. Anyway, FTX is currently racing to be at the top and the news about Coinbase being publicly traded is great as well. They are doing well.

Also, the very important reason why FTX is going to the top is because of the crackdown on Bitmex and Arthur Hayes. I am not telling you that there was foul play but the timing makes me a skeptic hehehe. FTX is one of the best exchanges today, however.

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May 19, 2021, 05:02:26 AM
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In any case, the skeptical part of me is only saying that Brian Armstrong and Sam Bankman-Fried might be pushing government to move faster to kill Binance so they can take its market share hehehe.
Being the top exchange would bring a lot more value to their company for sure. I bet it would affect the crypto market so much once Binance is out of the picture. Anyway, FTX is currently racing to be at the top and the news about Coinbase being publicly traded is great as well. They are doing well.

Also, the very important reason why FTX is going to the top is because of the crackdown on Bitmex and Arthur Hayes. I am not telling you that there was foul play but the timing makes me a skeptic hehehe. FTX is one of the best exchanges today, however.
Well, almost everyone is looking for an alternative exchange and FTX has become a viable option for everyone. I like the background of it as well, knowing that they do donations and let people vote on where it will go, etc. It's just a great background that people might find amazing.

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May 19, 2021, 08:31:18 AM
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It appears that the Biden Administration has begun another crackdown and this time with money laundering through exchanges.

I think this was something expected, most exchanges do not have physical offices, they are not yet in compliance with the laws of different countries, so situations like these are predictable to happen

If you are an American looking for a safe exchange from the regulators, choose FTX or Coinbase. FTX’s founder is a donor to the Democratic party while Coinbase’s founder has met with congress this week. I would not be shocked if there was foul play.

sooner or later the cryptocurrency market will need support from many of these politicians if it is to survive

According to a report today from Bloomberg, Binance Holdings is being investigated by the US Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service as officials look into the use of the exchange by employees and/or customers for money laundering and tax evasion.

having an exchange in the USA shouldn't be an easy task, that's why many exchanges have headquarter in part uncertain and its founders are anonymous

You mean the exchange which kept opening and closing offices in various countries and tax havens around the world has been implicit in tax evasion? Well, I never! Roll Eyes First it was China, then Japan, then Taiwan, then Malta, then Bermuda, then the Cayman Islands, then Seychelles, then Jersey. Did I miss any out? Wonder where they will be off to next.

it looks like they’re back in china:

Binance has appointed new head of ‘Greater China’

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You can't really take seriously man with nickname CZ who is telling everyone that coins are SAFU, while he created his own centralized blockchain copies and multiple fake Bitcoins on different chains.
I really don't get why so many people fall for this! There's only one Bitcoin, but when withdrawing from Binance you see this:
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So where did these American traders and market makers go after they were kicked out of Bitmex?
I think many of them went to Coinbase and Kraken exchange and some of them may be using P2P trading and decentralized exchanges like Bisq.

I really don't get why so many people fall for this! There's only one Bitcoin, but when withdrawing from Binance you see this:
I understand they all want to save on transaction fees, but imagine what would happen with those chains if Binance exchange shuts down and CZ gets arrested, don't think for a second those ten or twenty people will still be running their ''validator nodes'' Smiley


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Why didn't they initially go to the American-oriented exchange? Not logical. So there is something to hide from.
Gemini, Kraken and Coinbase are all American based as far as I know, and sure they used Binance also because it is one of the biggest exchange in the world, you don't have to be rocket scientist to know that.
Binance also has derivates and leverage trading like Bitmex, unlike other mentioned exchanges, but not all 55k bitcoins are from American customers.

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I understand they all want to save on transaction fees, but imagine what would happen with those chains if Binance exchange shuts down and CZ gets arrested, don't think for a second those ten or twenty people will still be running their ''validator nodes'' Smiley
It's just very shady: imagine you go to your bank to withdraw $1000, and the bank offers to print their own banknote. Why would anyone accept that?

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It's just very shady: imagine you go to your bank to withdraw $1000, and the bank offers to print their own banknote. Why would anyone accept that?
I would not take it, but I could imagine scenario when mainstream media and government officials are non stop talking that those printed banknotes are real and you can use them same as dollars and other fiat currencies.
Brainwashed people would usually trust and take those papers, and that makes me think that this is how paper money was created in the first place.
In fiat world you trust governments because history showed us they care about us and they never lie  Roll Eyes
In crypto world you trust CZ and exchanges because history showed us they care about us and they never lie  Roll Eyes

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What even are Binance Chain and Binance Smart Chain? What purpose do they serve? What's the difference between them?

I assume, given the name, that they are both completely centralized and Binanxe have complete control over them both. If that's the case, then why even bother withdrawing your coins at all? If you leave your coins on Binance then they have complete control over them, but even if you withdraw them Binance still have complete control over them? Am I missing something here?
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What even are Binance Chain and Binance Smart Chain? What purpose do they serve?
The same as any other altcoin, ICO, fork, DeFi or NFT: the purpose is to make the creator rich(er).

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You can't really take seriously man with nickname CZ who is telling everyone that coins are SAFU, while he created his own centralized blockchain copies and multiple fake Bitcoins on different chains.
I really don't get why so many people fall for this! There's only one Bitcoin, but when withdrawing from Binance you see this:
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The Chinese hustler gang hehehe. Binance is also doing this with Ethereum and ERC20 tokens withdrawals. They overprice the fees to discourage the user to use Ethereum. In FTX ETH and ERC tokens fees are only $2.50 - $7.50.

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So tell me why will any regulatory institution (SEC) close down Binance, when this is happening in the Banking world? https://www.complianceweek.com/surveys-and-benchmarking/report-fines-against-financial-institutions-hit-104b-in-2020/29869.article

I quote, " Collectively, financial institutions headquartered in the United States were hit with the most expensive fines, at $7.5 billion. However, fines against Goldman Sachs related to 1MDB accounted for 91 percent of the U.S. total ($6.8 billion)." <== Fines

Changpeng Zhao began working for the Tokyo Stock Exchange, so he knows what is happening in the financial world and how these private institutions are being protected.  Roll Eyes

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/westpac-settles-austrac-money-laundering-case/12696438

I quote, " Westpac has reached a deal with financial crime watchdog AUSTRAC to settle more than 23 million alleged breaches of anti-money laundering laws by paying a record $1.3 billion penalty."   Roll Eyes

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June 07, 2021, 08:12:31 AM
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So tell me why will any regulatory institution (SEC) close down Binance, when this is happening in the Banking world?
You are incorrectly under the impression that banks are held to same laws or standards as anyone else. Banks donate millions of dollars each year to politicians, give them gifts, take them out for meals, help them evade taxes, move their money offshore, etc. The government have no interest in actually punishing or sanctioning the banks to any meaningful degree. Goldman Sachs have an annual revenue of $44 billion. Westpac are sitting at $15 billion. These fines are almost meaningless, and they certainly won't stop their money laundering behavior. We see fines like these on a yearly basis, and nothing ever changes.

Danske bank was hit with a $3.3 billion fine for money laundering earlier this year and still managed to hit their projected targets. These fines are little more than a slap on the wrist.
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