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Yes, it will probably bring the price down, which is great if you have the opportunity to buy more. I think it's quite embarrassing for elon to behave like this. I don't doubt it's annoying to deal with the btc twitter hive-mind in all its glory, but he should have recognized that he brought it on himself.
At the end of the day, bitcoin doesn't care about elon, and elon probably doesn't care all too much about bitcoin. We all know he had very little to do with PayPal's success, so I don't see why so many people value his financial opinions so highly. IMO, if he understood the technology, he wouldn't be claiming that bitcoin is highly centralized, and that it's reviving the coal industry. If he really knew the incentives, he would be promoting bitcoin mining as an alternative to Tesla powerwalls/battery packs for clean energy sources that have surplus energy, this would be a win-win for him since either his profits increase or the security of his store-of-value BTC increases.
disclaimer, I bought the dip
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Yes, it will probably bring the price down, which is great if you have the opportunity to buy more. I think it's quite embarrassing for elon to behave like this. I don't doubt it's annoying to deal with the btc twitter hive-mind in all its glory, but he should have recognized that he brought it on himself.
At the end of the day, bitcoin doesn't care about elon, and elon probably doesn't care all too much about bitcoin. We all know he had very little to do with PayPal's success, so I don't see why so many people value his financial opinions so highly. IMO, if he understood the technology, he wouldn't be claiming that bitcoin is highly centralized, and that it's reviving the coal industry. If he really knew the incentives, he would be promoting bitcoin mining as an alternative to Tesla powerwalls/battery packs for clean energy sources that have surplus energy, this would be a win-win for him since either his profits increase or the security of his store-of-value BTC increases.
disclaimer, I bought the dip
How sad that the one who made the bitcoin price go up, he will also be the reason why its price will go down. But we need to accept the fact that he is doing it for himself and we're not included on that. We just need to look for other crypto that is also profitable not only bitcoin because there are soon more news that will make the price of bitcoin to hype up.
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It's the fault of both sides, Elon being a baby and can't take the criticisms and the crypto masses crying over the fact that Tesla suspended their bitcoin payment option but didn't sold their bitcoins, is this what you want in the first place?
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It takes a life to build a reputation, Elon is very actively working on the basis that crypto users and hodlers are just stupid. In my view he is completely illiterate in so far as crypto is concerned and he is exchanging a limited and valuable asset (his reputation) for a sum that may look like a lot to many, but has no relevance ¡n his life. I really thought that this guy knew a bit more about business. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourselfquotes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F02%2FImages-for-Warren-Buffett-Quotes.jpg&t=665&c=bXoqNJfhzIy9JQ)
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I mean let's be real here, it's like Elon isn't taking the community seriously, like he sees us as idiots. Just with the reason he used to throw away BTC as payment. I'm not even mad with him stopping BTC payments, heck that comes and goes as far as I'm concerned, nothing new there. But presenting a reason like "hard for the environment"? Heck, giving no reason at all might be the better option. Let him sell it, dump it in the market, at least the market would go back to people who actually know what they're investing in.
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"Elon Musk is going to part with all his Bitcoin BTC" IMHO he already did before he made that baseless tweet. We understand that the crypto market has its ups and downs but the little push by Elon musk will soon blow over and the market returns back to normalcy even if it will take some years as usual but at least I hope Investors learn from this and not quick to react to all such kind of news.
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RIP fellow bitcoiners, it was just a matter of time. We all had a good run and now it's time to say good bye. Its sad how we are all just lemmings in the world of Elon Musk. Nothing we can do than to accept our downfall. Hope we will get a new godfather who is better to us than Elon Musk was. It lasted very short but so is the game. I am sure we will see each other here again in 2-3 years. Good luck everybody
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Indeed, currently most investors in crypto are those who only see the benefits of issues, not those who put forward the biggest fundamentals and innovations in the economy so that the market is very easy to move only with stupid issues. I'm so sick of the Elon effect. How long does this end and all of her tweets are considered winds of day. Do all investors now consider Elon to be the father of crypto? So that all his words are like the light from the sky. The easier it is for us to be consumed by the Elon twit issue, the more fragile the potential market will be. Are we that easy to let the market collapse just because of the whales? Aren't there many people who believed in Crypto before Elon? there are paypal, visa and mastercard, micro strategy and many other big companies. Why is Elon always being deified?
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May 17, 2021, 01:21:16 PM |
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He is a clever guy, we would not know what his action, just like investors, we are just speculating if he sold his crypto or not. HE is still the hottest topic, we can see how the crypto world is getting affected if there's big news about Tesla and Elon, and at the moment, it's the bad news that is affecting the market resulting in a dump.
If Tesla will sell their bitcoin, then be it, and that doesn't mean there's no chance they'll buy and hold it again.
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We understand that the crypto market has its ups and downs but the little push by Elon musk will soon blow over and the market returns back to normalcy even if it will take some years as usual but at least I hope Investors learn from this and not quick to react to all such kind of news.
That's what I'm thinking--bitcoin has survived worse news than this, although in this case it's more than news if Musk dumped a ton of bitcoin onto the market all at once. I just looked at preev and the price is just over $44k, which is quite a drop. I don't know if this is a case of people following Elon Musk and selling bitcoin or if it was his sale or something else that caused it. Who knows. Hopefully it won't take too long for bitcoin to rebound, because I don't think the bull market is over. Not by a long shot. As far as Elon Musk's reputation goes, I don't think he damaged it by anything he's done with bitcoin. It does look like he hadn't thought things through before making statements and his buying and selling, but maybe he's just impulsive. I don't know much about the guy.
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See it is going down for sure. There have been a lot of quotes and tweets from these people. It have actually been immensely tense these days. Trust me the guy have gone crazy there is a limit of market Manipulation. He just wants to put our some new crypto and start it from scratch so that he can earn more profit. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FjzKCPpK%2FIMG-20210517-WA0005.jpg&t=665&c=t0cvUu-XXkrEhw) He is speaking like cryptocurrencies and doge are different. Another one : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FDLmYB0L%2FIMG-20210517-WA0006.jpg&t=665&c=sNw9HujJnYGw0A) What is he doing ?? Is this even legal ? With such people controlling the market are we even going to go anywhere? He talks about how Centralized Bitcoins is , but he is indeed the worst of the whales in the same. The small Investors are getting harmed and the rich ones are just playing games. The market is down for sure , unfortunately. I do hope the government will take some action against these Manipulations, but I am sure that Bitcoins will never go tulips ! It will spike back up ! But ofc it will take some time. Hold , trade , wait for the right opportunity. P.S. these SC's are being shared everywhere by everyone I wonder how it would impact the market.
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It takes a life to build a reputation, Elon is very actively working on the basis that crypto users and hodlers are just stupid. In my view he is completely illiterate in so far as crypto is concerned and he is exchanging a limited and valuable asset (his reputation) for a sum that may look like a lot to many, but has no relevance ¡n his life. I really thought that this guy knew a bit more about business. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourselfquotes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F02%2FImages-for-Warren-Buffett-Quotes.jpg&t=665&c=bXoqNJfhzIy9JQ) People will soon forget what he did to bitcoin when years pass. He has one of the biggest companies in the world (although many people think it is over evaluated) and his products definitely serve the future of mankind just like the blockchain. Besides, after making a big amount of money with bitcoin, do you think he will ever need his reputation again? I was quite disappointed with his childish and precipitous tweets. I surely he and his company do earn a decent profit with such manipulation. However, you can't simply deny what he did to the crypto world.
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Seriously I am looking forward to the worst that wants to happen even if he dumps/sells all the coins he is holding. I know if he leaves more investors will eventually resurface and life continues. It will definitely affect some people to also sell off their coin because they will fear the price drop rate which eventually may lead to the price drop. For me holding continues and I am patiently waiting for these outcomes.
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I'm tired of seeing this name "Elon Musk" everywhere in the entire forum there's a lot of threads regarding this.
I think instead of pointing out with Elon Musk, we have to be wiser enough to study the patterns, analyze the data and be proactive. Let’s stop the nonsense, people are using the move Elon Musk did to hate him publicly and to release anger and envy.
People always find loopholes to people they envy and then use it against them to attract more people to hate. There's also a possibility that people are really trying to trigger Elon Musk, then like a snowball effect, Bitcoin goes down and then they go in to make their move. Be wise people, be wise!
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Seriously I am looking forward to the worst that wants to happen even if he dumps/sells all the coins he is holding. I know if he leaves more investors will eventually resurface and life continues. It will definitely affect some people to also sell off their coin because they will fear the price drop rate which eventually may lead to the price drop. For me holding continues and I am patiently waiting for these outcomes.
Let him do that. I don't want people like Elon to hold Bitcoin. Why they should own an asset, which they hate so much? Exchange rates may go down for a few months, but eventually it will go back to the previous levels. We don't need Elon or any other billionaire to make Bitcoin more popular. Even before Elon endorsed it, the user base was growing at 5% to 10% per month. And from what I can see, Elon's involvement has done more harm than good for Bitcoin. I would say that he pushed Bitcoin a couple of years back.
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It already DID bring the price down, that is not really even a question, it is obvious that they already started selling because of this tweet. However there is always a valid reason to remind people that same Elon musk usually ends up joking about things so we do not know which thing he said was real and which one is not. Same Elon said that even though they will stop accepting bitcoin for Tesla cars but they will also hold their bitcoins as well and not selling their bitcoins which means when the quarter is over and they show how much bitcoin they own, they may have the same number of bitcoins and not sold a single one of them. Which will not recover the price honestly, people do not like those things, they do not care about good news on quarterly reports, they only care about the bad ones and take it even if it is just a tweet and nothing serious.
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May 17, 2021, 08:23:53 PM |
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However there is always a valid reason to remind people that same Elon musk usually ends up joking about things so we do not know which thing he said was real and which one is not. I can pretty much tell from all his recent tweets / tweet replies that he is currently sulking. Elon is so used to people calling him smart, innovative and so on yet he is showing that he doesnt understand a thing about bitcoin because of his reason to stop accepting Bitcoin for Tesla car purchase. Alot of people criticized it and tried to explain it to him but he doesnt want to hear anything because he thinks that he is so smart. Well of course he is smart, he tries to send people to Mars which is unbelievable but when alot of people criticized him then he feel uncomfortable with that and even displayed a childish behaviour by calling Michael Saylor with Saylor Moon instead. Some people take it as a joke, I take this as a sign that he is sulking because he doesnt understand anything about crypto ( bitcoin in particular ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmgIufPJ.png&t=665&c=d1V4H5NvfiWdww) I wouldnt even be surprised if Tesla sell most if not all of their bitcoins anytime this year. He will make another excuses again this time
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May 18, 2021, 06:17:28 AM |
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Seriously I am looking forward to the worst that wants to happen even if he dumps/sells all the coins he is holding. I know if he leaves more investors will eventually resurface and life continues. It will definitely affect some people to also sell off their coin because they will fear the price drop rate which eventually may lead to the price drop. For me holding continues and I am patiently waiting for these outcomes.
Let him do that. I don't want people like Elon to hold Bitcoin. Why they should own an asset, which they hate so much? Exchange rates may go down for a few months, but eventually it will go back to the previous levels. We don't need Elon or any other billionaire to make Bitcoin more popular. Even before Elon endorsed it, the user base was growing at 5% to 10% per month. And from what I can see, Elon's involvement has done more harm than good for Bitcoin. I would say that he pushed Bitcoin a couple of years back. right, let him do that. that way bitcoin is not affected by just one person. so that cryptocurrency is not like a money game which at any time can soar and can also be destroyed for a moment. and finally finding the initial function will be more useful later
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