[Boxing]: Arbitration judge orders Fury vs Wilder 3rd fight

[Kelvinid]

There's no problem with this, after the Fury vs Joshua fight,  Fury can give this a chance, it's up to him, if he will not fight, that means he will break the contract and he will pay a monetary amount for that, it's up to him.

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[Dave1]

Legally you can't force Fury to fight Wilder if Wilder declines to step aside but it will have some serious financial consequences and they would waste a lot of time on lawsuits that they are better off doing the trilogy. It is likely that Fury wins by KO again and then we can see Fury vs. Joshua at the end of the year.

They are bound by arbitration and I think the ruling is final here. So by legality he really needs to fight Wilder here, otherwise there will be lawsuit. Fury had Bob Arum on his side, and knows a lot about boxing lawsuit so they may come to terms on fighting Wilder again for the last time in the trilogy and win the fight.

[Maslate]

There's no problem with this, after the Fury vs Joshua fight,  Fury can give this a chance, it's up to him, if he will not fight, that means he will break the contract and he will pay a monetary amount for that, it's up to him.

The amount of money is not mentioned in the news, but why would Fury not fight him and just pay him when he can make money and at the same time beat Wilder in the 3rd fight. If the marketing is good, they can make more money than the previous two fights, however, I believe Fury needs to win the fight against Joshua if that would happen first so the hype is still hype for him.

[Darker45]

Then let this fight happen. There is no other option for Fury and his team but to face Wilder for the third time. The arbitration has been submitted and was duly judged in favor of Wilder's use of their contract's rematch clause.

While there is, of course, much more excitement for the anticipated Fury-Joshua fight, this old issue should be settled first. But the former will definitely happen, anyway.

And I guess Fury could defeat the broken Wilder more easily this time around. I think Wilder is already done.

[Obito]

Then let this fight happen. There is no other option for Fury and his team but to face Wilder for the third time. The arbitration has been submitted and was duly judged in favor of Wilder's use of their contract's rematch clause.

I would disagree, Wilder backed out of the fight in the last minute and now that there is another fight for Fury, he suddenly gets in and interrupts to tell that Fury owes him a third match? That's pretty stupid if you think about it. I don't think that Fury's side should accept the decision, let him get in line and wait.

[Welsh]

It wouldn't be big deal anyway if they delayed the fight anyway in my opinion. AJ could just fight Oleksandr Usyk in the meantime since he's probably going to have to fight him as he's the mandatory and that could end up delaying the Fury/AJ fight at some point as well so it's best to get it out of the way so it doesn't cause any problems.

Its the fans that lose out really. We've been waiting for it for a long time, its taken several months to actually get an agreement, despite this fight being the only logical one, and especially for British fans, its an exciting time to have two British fighters go against each other. If you consider their ages, 32 Fury, and 31 Joshua they are getting on, so there is definitely a time limit to make this fight happen in their prime. Especially, with Fury already retiring once, and not long ago he was saying he was just going to fight his last 3 fights left on his contract.

So while it might not be a big deal, and in some ways it might be beneficial. For example, less restrictions if they were to schedule it for December. However, are they going to be able to agree to that. Its taken months now, and it was the only thing that was on the cards for the two fighters. What if Fury takes a lot of damage against Wilder, which is definitely possible. What if Joshua takes damage, or what if either of them don't want to be fighting so close together for such a big fight. Which means we could be looking at next year, and depending on the Covid situation, and various other things that is not guaranteed.

Right now, we have a date August 14th. I would say, pay wilder to step aside, but give him a guarantee in the contract that he can fight the winner, and challenge for all the belts. Wilder gets paid to sit on his arse, and train for a while. The fans get what they want, Hearne, Bob, and the rest get their money. Then, the promoters can big up the next fight, where Wilder's right hand will steal all the belts of the division.

Honestly, if they spin it that way; if Fury were to beat Wilder, wouldn't it be the perfect revenge for Wilder to take all the belts he just acquired?

I actually want to see Fury and Wilder fight again as I think Wilder deserves the third match. First was a draw and the second fight the towel was thrown in without his involvement even though he was likely losing or would have lost the fight but a third fight will settle any claim for either party.

I'm not sure if Wilder deserves it. If you look in history, generally only the best have trilogy fights, and I'm not sure if I can call Wilder one of the best. Plus, the excuses, and accusations made me respect him a lot less. That second fight where he wanted to go out on his shield, made me leave that night respecting more than I did going in, and he ruined that.

So, although Wilder definitely has a chance against Fury just from his dynamite right hand I believe he lacks a lot of skill in other departments, and I know the first fight was a draw, but I can't really get my head around how that was a draw. The knockdown he had was a good one, and maybe there is a claim for a long count, but other than that I thought he was dominated pretty much every round. So, in my eyes he only had one 10-9 / 10-8 round. The fact that Fury got up, and started to put him on the back foot right after being knocked down, I would say a 10-9 round to wilder. I just can't see how he made up all those points, he was getting schooled for much of that fight.

Wilder is a brawler, his boxing skills in terms of actually technical boxing are lacking. Probably, the most lacking top fighter I've seen. I've seen many fights, where he's definitely losing, but he has that one punch in him.

[zanezane]

There's no problem with this, after the Fury vs Joshua fight,  Fury can give this a chance, it's up to him, if he will not fight, that means he will break the contract and he will pay a monetary amount for that, it's up to him.

I think that it should be the logical approach since Wilder skated out of the fight at the last minute and this Fury vs. Joshua is already polished and butting in while the match has already been decided is a bit rude and unprofessional.

[Yaunfitda]

There's no problem with this, after the Fury vs Joshua fight,  Fury can give this a chance, it's up to him, if he will not fight, that means he will break the contract and he will pay a monetary amount for that, it's up to him.

I think that it should be the logical approach since Wilder skated out of the fight at the last minute and this Fury vs. Joshua is already polished and butting in while the match has already been decided is a bit rude and unprofessional.

That is if Wilder is willing to accept a step aside money to give way for Fury vs Joshua.

But it seems he wanted to derail it, and now that the arbitration is out and the judge order him and Fury to face the trilogy, he will go for it. As for Fury, legal woes and lawsuit might follow if he chooses to fight Joshua. Again, this is going to be a circus now and I don't think that Wilder is willing to be paid that step aside money. Maybe by now, he realized all his actions after the second fight and his mind is clear to have the third fight.

[hilariousetc]

Its the fans that lose out really. We've been waiting for it for a long time, its taken several months to actually get an agreement, despite this fight being the only logical one, and especially for British fans, its an exciting time to have two British fighters go against each other. If you consider their ages, 32 Fury, and 31 Joshua they are getting on, so there is definitely a time limit to make this fight happen in their prime. Especially, with Fury already retiring once, and not long ago he was saying he was just going to fight his last 3 fights left on his contract.

So while it might not be a big deal, and in some ways it might be beneficial. For example, less restrictions if they were to schedule it for December. However, are they going to be able to agree to that. Its taken months now, and it was the only thing that was on the cards for the two fighters. What if Fury takes a lot of damage against Wilder, which is definitely possible. What if Joshua takes damage, or what if either of them don't want to be fighting so close together for such a big fight. Which means we could be looking at next year, and depending on the Covid situation, and various other things that is not guaranteed.

Right now, we have a date August 14th. I would say, pay wilder to step aside, but give him a guarantee in the contract that he can fight the winner, and challenge for all the belts. Wilder gets paid to sit on his arse, and train for a while. The fans get what they want, Hearne, Bob, and the rest get their money. Then, the promoters can big up the next fight, where Wilder's right hand will steal all the belts of the division.

I'm sure people can wait another year or so and another year isn't going to age either of them to the point of retirement. Neither are past their prime and are arguably still in it. Assuming the Wilder trilogy goes ahead they can still get the first AJ fight in before the end of the year and it's looking like December is a strong candidate for it. Then the rematch can be done in the new year. As for Wilder stepping aside if he would for a couple of million I'm sure they would offer him that but according to Fury he wants 20 million which is ludicrous so it looks like the fight will have to happen. He was originally contracted for it anyway so it seems only fair given covid. It's still a huge fight and there's not going to be many more options for Fury and AJ once those fights are done and maybe one or both will retire after them.

I'm not sure if Wilder deserves it. If you look in history, generally only the best have trilogy fights, and I'm not sure if I can call Wilder one of the best. Plus, the excuses, and accusations made me respect him a lot less. That second fight where he wanted to go out on his shield, made me leave that night respecting more than I did going in, and he ruined that.

So, although Wilder definitely has a chance against Fury just from his dynamite right hand I believe he lacks a lot of skill in other departments, and I know the first fight was a draw, but I can't really get my head around how that was a draw. The knockdown he had was a good one, and maybe there is a claim for a long count, but other than that I thought he was dominated pretty much every round. So, in my eyes he only had one 10-9 / 10-8 round. The fact that Fury got up, and started to put him on the back foot right after being knocked down, I would say a 10-9 round to wilder. I just can't see how he made up all those points, he was getting schooled for much of that fight.

Wilder is a brawler, his boxing skills in terms of actually technical boxing are lacking. Probably, the most lacking top fighter I've seen. I've seen many fights, where he's definitely losing, but he has that one punch in him.

Well I don't think he got the chance to go out on his shield due the corner throwing in the towel. He probably would have lost either due to KO or points but you never know in boxing. Also, I'm not sure what qualifies someone to be the best and that's largely subjective but Wilder was unbeaten before Fury and held the WBC heavyweight title since 2015. He did nearly KO Fury as well and it was a miracle he got up. The excuses he gave were very petty and it shows what a sore loser he is but it's not uncommon for fighters to pull out every excuse in the book. Maybe Fury will have them if he every loses. The third fight at least gives both fighters the option to put it to rest though. If Fury is confident that beating him again won't be an issue then it should be only a minor inconvenience for him and he's still going to get the biggest payday of his life until the AJ fight happens.

There's no problem with this, after the Fury vs Joshua fight,  Fury can give this a chance, it's up to him, if he will not fight, that means he will break the contract and he will pay a monetary amount for that, it's up to him.

The amount of money is not mentioned in the news, but why would Fury not fight him and just pay him when he can make money and at the same time beat Wilder in the 3rd fight. If the marketing is good, they can make more money than the previous two fights, however, I believe Fury needs to win the fight against Joshua if that would happen first so the hype is still hype for him.

Fury has said it's 20 million:

Tyson Fury does not expect to face Anthony Joshua in his next fight after Deontay Wilder requested $20m to step aside and allow their bout to go ahead.

Fury, 32, agreed to face Joshua, 31, in a highly-anticipated fight in August.

But Wilder's team forced an arbitration hearing which concluded he had a contractual right to face Fury for a third time and by 15 September.

Fury said Wilder "asked for $20m (£14m) to move over", and added: "Looks like I will have to crack his skull again."

Fury posted his message on Instagram over a video of Wilder working out with trainer Malik Scott.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57165286

[Jackl87]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Lineal and WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury will have to honor a contractual clause which calls for a third fight with Deontay Wilder, arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein ruled on Monday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-arbitration-judge-orders-third-fight--157712

So let's see how this goes, it's a cluster f**k right now, we have been hype of the Fury vs Joshua reunification, but I guess it won't happen this year.

What a bummer i was really looking forward to see the fight of fury vs joshua. I just hope that the fight against wilder will still be this year and that fury wins of course because i really want to see him fight against joshua as this would be one of the biggest fights in the heavyweight division of the last 10 years. If fury wins against wilder again this year though then this news could also have a positive side because next year the fight will most likely be with audience again and a championship fight with no atmosphere is just not the same.

[Fredomago]

Legally you can't force Fury to fight Wilder if Wilder declines to step aside but it will have some serious financial consequences and they would waste a lot of time on lawsuits that they are better off doing the trilogy. It is likely that Fury wins by KO again and then we can see Fury vs. Joshua at the end of the year.

They are bound by arbitration and I think the ruling is final here. So by legality he really needs to fight Wilder here, otherwise there will be lawsuit. Fury had Bob Arum on his side, and knows a lot about boxing lawsuit so they may come to terms on fighting Wilder again for the last time in the trilogy and win the fight.

It's a law that will force him to fight, unless they got something to fight under the court that they see something that possible to avoid this, though just like what you just mentioned Bob Arum knows more about it and for sure he will comes up with something that appropriate to what laws are requiring them.

Fight for the last time and prove it, this one will end after, let see if how they'll going to react about it and what will be the plan for this possible incoming fight.

[Dave1]

Legally you can't force Fury to fight Wilder if Wilder declines to step aside but it will have some serious financial consequences and they would waste a lot of time on lawsuits that they are better off doing the trilogy. It is likely that Fury wins by KO again and then we can see Fury vs. Joshua at the end of the year.

They are bound by arbitration and I think the ruling is final here. So by legality he really needs to fight Wilder here, otherwise there will be lawsuit. Fury had Bob Arum on his side, and knows a lot about boxing lawsuit so they may come to terms on fighting Wilder again for the last time in the trilogy and win the fight.

It's a law that will force him to fight, unless they got something to fight under the court that they see something that possible to avoid this, though just like what you just mentioned Bob Arum knows more about it and for sure he will comes up with something that appropriate to what laws are requiring them.

Fight for the last time and prove it, this one will end after, let see if how they'll going to react about it and what will be the plan for this possible incoming fight.

The decision of the arbitration judge is binding by law, so I don't know how Bob can bent it, unless he challenge it again, which I doubt, and I don't know what will be the solution here except to let Fury fight Wilder for the trilogy.

I'm sure fans are going against Wilder here, because we wanted to see undisputed fight, Fury vs Joshua, but what can we do but to wait.

[South Park]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Lineal and WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury will have to honor a contractual clause which calls for a third fight with Deontay Wilder, arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein ruled on Monday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-arbitration-judge-orders-third-fight--157712

So let's see how this goes, it's a cluster f**k right now, we have been hype of the Fury vs Joshua reunification, but I guess it won't happen this year.

I saw that news when it came out and this basically means that we are going to get a third fight between Fury and Wilder, I will see it of course as I am a fan of boxing but there is not going to be any hype on my part as I do not think Wilder has the necessary skills to pull an upset against Fury, so once gain promoters found a way to kill excitement for the biggest fight of the year and we do not have any idea when the fight will happen.

[Fortify]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Lineal and WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury will have to honor a contractual clause which calls for a third fight with Deontay Wilder, arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein ruled on Monday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-arbitration-judge-orders-third-fight--157712

So let's see how this goes, it's a cluster f**k right now, we have been hype of the Fury vs Joshua reunification, but I guess it won't happen this year.

It does look like an utter mess, but all this controversy just generates more money for the three of them in future. Joshua called Tyson a fraud today because it looks like they'll end up paying $20 million in order for Wilder to step aside, it could be one of the easiest paychecks in history! Saudi Arabia is already reported to be paying $100 million between both of them for hosting the fight, so it looks like it will either be cancelled (unlikely) or the pay off will be coming. Considering it is the most belts ever up for contest in one fight - making it one of the biggest fights in history, it looks like Wilder will get his way.

[eaLiTy]

It does look like an utter mess, but all this controversy just generates more money for the three of them in future. Joshua called Tyson a fraud today because it looks like they'll end up paying $20 million in order for Wilder to step aside, it could be one of the easiest paychecks in history! Saudi Arabia is already reported to be paying $100 million between both of them for hosting the fight, so it looks like it will either be cancelled (unlikely) or the pay off will be coming. Considering it is the most belts ever up for contest in one fight - making it one of the biggest fights in history, it looks like Wilder will get his way.

There is a timeline set for the trilogy by the arbitrator arbitrator Tyson Fury should face Deontay Wilder by September 15th and the fight between Fury and Joshua is not official yet and the reported date was August 14 and considering that there is no way Tyson Fury can have this fight and turn around and find Wilder within a month.

Either they have to pay the settlement amount or he needs to fight Wilder unless they find other solutions.


 

[dunfida]

I saw that news when it came out and this basically means that we are going to get a third fight between Fury and Wilder, I will see it of course as I am a fan of boxing but there is not going to be any hype on my part as I do not think Wilder has the necessary skills to pull an upset against Fury, so once gain promoters found a way to kill excitement for the biggest fight of the year and we do not have any idea when the fight will happen.

We've seen this drama on how it did end up on Wilder and surprisingly they do able to find out some way to make this Trilogy to happen which is way too unexpected.
Im dying to see on how Fury would end up this drama and move on ahead and fight AJ. Im not that interested with Wilder anymore but it somehow needs
to be settled for good.

[Natalim]

I saw that news when it came out and this basically means that we are going to get a third fight between Fury and Wilder, I will see it of course as I am a fan of boxing but there is not going to be any hype on my part as I do not think Wilder has the necessary skills to pull an upset against Fury, so once gain promoters found a way to kill excitement for the biggest fight of the year and we do not have any idea when the fight will happen.

We've seen this drama on how it did end up on Wilder and surprisingly they do able to find out some way to make this Trilogy to happen which is way too unexpected.
Im dying to see on how Fury would end up this drama and move on ahead and fight AJ. Im not that interested with Wilder anymore but it somehow needs
to be settled for good.

Well, as both fighters would love to do that, the fans are more than excited to see their rivals end soon. It's gonna be another great fighter that could result in a KO, Fury here will be aggressive again and I don't know how Wilder will fight that he has never faced a fighter as aggressive as Fury.

Wilder speaks too much, he is now given an opportunity to speak again, but this time please speak out in the ring.
Make this a fight that fans will never forget.

[Darker45]

Then let this fight happen. There is no other option for Fury and his team but to face Wilder for the third time. The arbitration has been submitted and was duly judged in favor of Wilder's use of their contract's rematch clause.

I would disagree, Wilder backed out of the fight in the last minute and now that there is another fight for Fury, he suddenly gets in and interrupts to tell that Fury owes him a third match? That's pretty stupid if you think about it. I don't think that Fury's side should accept the decision, let him get in line and wait.

You may disagree, just like Fury and Bob Arum did last year on the grounds of the contract's rematch clause's expiration last October, but, again, the matter has already been submitted to the arbitration court. Unfortunately, on the part of Fury's camp, the judge has already ruled that Wilder still has the legal ground to demand for a third fight. I guess Fury and his camp would have no other option but to abide, unless Wilder would back out from it.

[FinneysTrueVision]

ESPN is reporting that Wilder and Fury have come to a verbal agreement and they will fight on July 24 or August 14 in Las Vegas. I think out of Fury and Joshua, Fury will have the tougher matchup against Wilder than Joshua against Usyk. Joshua might not have the best chin but Usyk is a natural cruiserweight and I don't see him being able to hurt AJ.

[Natalim]

ESPN is reporting that Wilder and Fury have come to a verbal agreement and they will fight on July 24 or August 14 in Las Vegas. I think out of Fury and Joshua, Fury will have the tougher matchup against Wilder than Joshua against Usyk. Joshua might not have the best chin but Usyk is a natural cruiserweight and I don't see him being able to hurt AJ.

It's a verbal agreement, it's nice if it will be in writing, but I guess this is already a done deal since the last contract it was stipulated that there's a rematch IIRC. Good fight I can say, Fury vs Wilder or Fury vs Joshua, either of this match up, it's expected it's an explosive fight.