[Boxing]: Arbitration judge orders Fury vs Wilder 3rd fight

[Baofeng]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Lineal and WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury will have to honor a contractual clause which calls for a third fight with Deontay Wilder, arbitration judge Daniel Weinstein ruled on Monday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-arbitration-judge-orders-third-fight--157712

So let's see how this goes, it's a cluster f**k right now, we have been hype of the Fury vs Joshua reunification, but I guess it won't happen this year.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

[ene1980]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Why should they delay the Fury and Joshua fight, did the judge ordered the fight to take place in a specific time period, i do not think so but the judge can order the trilogy and we have not heard any representation from the Fury side to talk about the situation. If the situation is challenged by Fury and if he does not want to fight him again these court orders does not mean anything as he is not a US citizen and he will not fight in the US if he does not want to.

So i think the situation can only be resolved amicably rather than forcing him to fight with the help of a court order and the Fury Joshua fight might take place on August 14th in Saudi Arabia.

[Mahanton]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

Exactly!
When things had already been set out and this issue had pop off from nowhere? Dont know if Fury will really be having some option with this kind of order
as if these are just lame excuses on Wilder side and trying hard to make things favorable for them or just trying to prove out that he would win
in case this 3rd fight happens.

[Baofeng]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Why should they delay the Fury and Joshua fight, did the judge ordered the fight to take place in a specific time period, i do not think so but the judge can order the trilogy and we have not heard any representation from the Fury side to talk about the situation. If the situation is challenged by Fury and if he does not want to fight him again these court orders does not mean anything as he is not a US citizen and he will not fight in the US if he does not want to.

So i think the situation can only be resolved amicably rather than forcing him to fight with the help of a court order and the Fury Joshua fight might take place on August 14th in Saudi Arabia.

It's because they have to follow the the rematch clause, otherwise it will be a breach on contract of Fury's side. That's why I said it's messed up everything for Fury right now.

For sure they can settle this with Wilder, and pay him a step aside money if that is possible so that the Fury vs Joshua can go as plan. So let's see what will be Fury and his management are going to do next.

[TravelMug]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Why should they delay the Fury and Joshua fight, did the judge ordered the fight to take place in a specific time period, i do not think so but the judge can order the trilogy and we have not heard any representation from the Fury side to talk about the situation. If the situation is challenged by Fury and if he does not want to fight him again these court orders does not mean anything as he is not a US citizen and he will not fight in the US if he does not want to.

So i think the situation can only be resolved amicably rather than forcing him to fight with the help of a court order and the Fury Joshua fight might take place on August 14th in Saudi Arabia.

It's because they have to follow the the rematch clause, otherwise it will be a breach on contract of Fury's side. That's why I said it's messed up everything for Fury right now.

For sure they can settle this with Wilder, and pay him a step aside money if that is possible so that the Fury vs Joshua can go as plan. So let's see what will be Fury and his management are going to do next.

That's possible, but if If my memory serves me right, the contract between Fury and Joshua is not yet signed isn't it? And if Fury vs Joshua will proceed, Fury will have a potential lawsuit coming from the side of Wilder for not honouring the contract and the arbitration.

So this decision really ruin everything for Fury now, but knowing that he has Bob Arum on his side, maybe just maybe they have solutions for this "legal" woes.

[Lorence.xD]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

What happened with this one though, I am too lazy to search for it online and I forgot what happened to this one. Basing on your reply, I don't think that a mere hush money is going to be enough for Wilder, I am sure he wants to go for a third match and if he ever accepts the money then I would be surprised because there will be no trilogy.

[samcrypto]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

This is what happen if you didn't play by the rules, we all know those boxer always play under the contract that you must follow all the time. If he decided not to push this one then expect him to pay huge money which he can still afford though. Fury can knockout Wilder easily again which can be a win win situation for him so I'd rather face this guy again, and prove that he's the real champion, that can be more exciting.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

What happened with this one though, I am too lazy to search for it online and I forgot what happened to this one. Basing on your reply, I don't think that a mere hush money is going to be enough for Wilder, I am sure he wants to go for a third match and if he ever accepts the money then I would be surprised because there will be no trilogy.

Wilder exercised the rematch clause after he lost the fight but then he disappeared and the pandemic happened so they were not able to make a deal before a the original deadline. Then Wilder took the case to arbitration claiming that he is still owed the rematch. The judge deciding the case ruled in Wilder's favor.

[Lorence.xD]

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Wilder exercised the rematch clause after he lost the fight but then he disappeared and the pandemic happened so they were not able to make a deal before a the original deadline. Then Wilder took the case to arbitration claiming that he is still owed the rematch. The judge deciding the case ruled in Wilder's favor.

That's pretty shitty if you ask me, Wilder asked for the rematched and he himself bounced and never made the deal, I would say that it is pretty stupid because the delay will cause this match to be something that will be insufferable to watch since we wanted a Fury versus Joshua now and Wilder is suddenly ready to go against Fury. Pretty unprofessional if you ask me.

[yazher]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

I don't believe their so-called trilogy will ever happen because of this complicated drama that they created themselves. there are too many negotiations and each party wanted to get the most of the money that this Trilogy produces. You also have Wilder's mentality problem, things are not going to be easy to make this fight happen. I don't know if they will still up to this fight by next year. if that will be the case, then there will be no fruit to their negotiations until one party will accept the offer of the other side.

[Yaunfitda]

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Wilder exercised the rematch clause after he lost the fight but then he disappeared and the pandemic happened so they were not able to make a deal before a the original deadline. Then Wilder took the case to arbitration claiming that he is still owed the rematch. The judge deciding the case ruled in Wilder's favor.

That's pretty shitty if you ask me, Wilder asked for the rematched and he himself bounced and never made the deal, I would say that it is pretty stupid because the delay will cause this match to be something that will be insufferable to watch since we wanted a Fury versus Joshua now and Wilder is suddenly ready to go against Fury. Pretty unprofessional if you ask me.

He acted stupid, but the arbitration is final if I'm not mistaken. So it's either Fury honor it, and fight Fury for all the marbles and finished the discussion or pay a hefty fine if he decision that he doesn't want any part of Wilder. So the ball is on the part of Fury and his team right now.  And this is the initial reaction from Bob Arum:

Bob Arum has blasted an arbitrator's reported decision to force a trilogy fight between Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder as "preposterous."

https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/anthony-joshua-vs-tyson-fury-bout-in-jeopardy-as-deontay-wilder-reportedly-wins-arbitration-case-for-trilogy-fight/o8zkz54x7h211f20vpilrvyuz

[hilariousetc]

So still not yet over for Deontay Wilder as the arbitration judge rule in favor of him. They are now ordered to take a 3rd fight and Tyson Fury will have to honour the contractual clause.

So I guess the Fury vs Joshua fight will have to wait.

Not necessarily. They could just arrange for the fight to happen after the AJ/Fury fight or Wilder could be paid off to delay the rematch, or maybe they could do a deal with AJ that Wilder will fight the winner of the bout if it's an issue of Wilder not being able to challenge for the belts so he will still get a shot at that. I don't know whether the terms of the arbitration deal mean it has to be a title fight with the belts on the line which could obviously be an issue if Fury loses them but the fight does have to take place before September 15th so there's not much time to fit in both fights by the end of the year. It wouldn't be big deal anyway if they delayed the fight anyway in my opinion. AJ could just fight Oleksandr Usyk in the meantime since he's probably going to have to fight him as he's the mandatory and that could end up delaying the Fury/AJ fight at some point as well so it's best to get it out of the way so it doesn't cause any problems. I actually want to see Fury and Wilder fight again as I think Wilder deserves the third match. First was a draw and the second fight the towel was thrown in without his involvement even though he was likely losing or would have lost the fight but a third fight will settle any claim for either party. Once that's out the way Fury can concentrate on the AJ fight (assuming he doesn't lose  ).

[goaldigger]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

What happened with this one though, I am too lazy to search for it online and I forgot what happened to this one. Basing on your reply, I don't think that a mere hush money is going to be enough for Wilder, I am sure he wants to go for a third match and if he ever accepts the money then I would be surprised because there will be no trilogy.

Wilder exercised the rematch clause after he lost the fight but then he disappeared and the pandemic happened so they were not able to make a deal before a the original deadline. Then Wilder took the case to arbitration claiming that he is still owed the rematch. The judge deciding the case ruled in Wilder's favor.

Wilder won the case because it is written on the Contract and Fury can't get away from it not unless he pays for a breach of contract. Now that the situation are getting better now, there's no more reason for Fury to decline the rematch and let Wilder have a chance to reclaim the title. Fury might not be able to fight other boxer because of this, so better to finish the drama for this one so we can see more fights to come.

[bisdak40]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

I don't believe their so-called trilogy will ever happen because of this complicated drama that they created themselves. there are too many negotiations and each party wanted to get the most of the money that this Trilogy produces. You also have Wilder's mentality problem, things are not going to be easy to make this fight happen. I don't know if they will still up to this fight by next year. if that will be the case, then there will be no fruit to their negotiations until one party will accept the offer of the other side.

As for me, the trilogy will happen unless they pay Wilder tons of money to step aside but i don't think Wilder will do that as he will get huge amount in this third fight. With restriction being eased up on some countries, i think they can have this fight with fans in attendance so that it can generate more revenue for this mega drama fight  .

[Kemarit]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

I don't believe their so-called trilogy will ever happen because of this complicated drama that they created themselves. there are too many negotiations and each party wanted to get the most of the money that this Trilogy produces. You also have Wilder's mentality problem, things are not going to be easy to make this fight happen. I don't know if they will still up to this fight by next year. if that will be the case, then there will be no fruit to their negotiations until one party will accept the offer of the other side.

As for me, the trilogy will happen unless they pay Wilder tons of money to step aside but i don't think Wilder will do that as he will get huge amount in this third fight. With restriction being eased up on some countries, i think they can have this fight with fans in attendance so that it can generate more revenue for this mega drama fight  .

I can speculate that Wilder will push through with the trilogy with Fury, and will not accept the step aside money. He is vented on having his revenge to the point that he mentally breaks down. And now that they heard the news and it's on their favor, for sure this team are now scrambling to get him back in the gym and be motivated  to fight again.

It will be a lot of trash talk here, specially Wilder's accusations. As for Fury, might be better to give Wilder his shot, win it and then goes for reunification with AJ. Boxing is business so if the money is right for the trilogy, it will happen.

[Lanatsa]

Just when we were done with the Joshua-Fury negotiation soap opera, now we have this drama with the Deontay Wilder legal case. I don't know if this ruling will be enough to derail the Joshua-Fury fight. Fury can either try to come to an agreement with Wilder and pay a step aside fee or he can just ignore the decision and eventually have to pay a lot of money for a breach of contract.

I don't believe their so-called trilogy will ever happen because of this complicated drama that they created themselves. there are too many negotiations and each party wanted to get the most of the money that this Trilogy produces. You also have Wilder's mentality problem, things are not going to be easy to make this fight happen. I don't know if they will still up to this fight by next year. if that will be the case, then there will be no fruit to their negotiations until one party will accept the offer of the other side.

As for me, the trilogy will happen unless they pay Wilder tons of money to step aside but i don't think Wilder will do that as he will get huge amount in this third fight. With restriction being eased up on some countries, i think they can have this fight with fans in attendance so that it can generate more revenue for this mega drama fight  .

I can speculate that Wilder will push through with the trilogy with Fury, and will not accept the step aside money. He is vented on having his revenge to the point that he mentally breaks down. And now that they heard the news and it's on their favor, for sure this team are now scrambling to get him back in the gym and be motivated  to fight again.

It will be a lot of trash talk here, specially Wilder's accusations. As for Fury, might be better to give Wilder his shot, win it and then goes for reunification with AJ. Boxing is business so if the money is right for the trilogy, it will happen.

Sounds a possible set-up but I don't believe that Fury would really be deal on that one because this doesn't only talks about business but also into his ego that he's much better than Wilder.

Just like what others been saying that im not already that much interested with this Trilogy.I do much prefer on seeing AJ than Wilder on upcoming fights but since its

mandatory or an order then I don't think for any opposition but rather they do need to deal with it.

[7788bitcoin]

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That's possible, but if If my memory serves me right, the contract between Fury and Joshua is not yet signed isn't it? And if Fury vs Joshua will proceed, Fury will have a potential lawsuit coming from the side of Wilder for not honouring the contract and the arbitration.

Fury and Joshua fight is not officially announced but the management and promoter of Joshua was claiming that the fight would take place in Saudi Arabia on August 14th and some of the insiders also noted that would be the date and that the Saudi will be building a stadium for the event, will see how Fury and his team will be managing this arbitration order and i do not think it will ruin the Joshua fight as they can overcome that easily. 

[TravelMug]

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That's possible, but if If my memory serves me right, the contract between Fury and Joshua is not yet signed isn't it? And if Fury vs Joshua will proceed, Fury will have a potential lawsuit coming from the side of Wilder for not honouring the contract and the arbitration.

Fury and Joshua fight is not officially announced but the management and promoter of Joshua was claiming that the fight would take place in Saudi Arabia on August 14th and some of the insiders also noted that would be the date and that the Saudi will be building a stadium for the event, will see how Fury and his team will be managing this arbitration order and i do not think it will ruin the Joshua fight as they can overcome that easily. 

Yes, so there's no finality as well on the Fury vs Joshua fight, and maybe this is the reason why there are a lot of confusion in the media as well, both sides as saying different things. So I conclude that the contract is not yet sign by both parties.

Fury is quiet and that's good, and it should only be Bob Arum who should talk to the media and let us know what's the plan for a Fury vs Wilder trilogy.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Legally you can't force Fury to fight Wilder if Wilder declines to step aside but it will have some serious financial consequences and they would waste a lot of time on lawsuits that they are better off doing the trilogy. It is likely that Fury wins by KO again and then we can see Fury vs. Joshua at the end of the year.