This thing with the accounts' farming has to stop...

[okae]

Maybe if Signature campaings dont required that monstruose ammount of posts in order to reach the minimun required to be payd, maybe, we will not found those type os posts.

If they force people to post 20 or 25 post per week, or they allow 15+ post per day, then people will do what you see, IMHO thats the main reason about it, anyway i will never be against signature campaigns is a great way to incentive people gain some satoshis and in some ways help this forum too.

[Lorence.xD]

They can't farm in this forum anymore, remember that there is a requirement for a certain rank before joining in a campaign and even that isn't even an assurance that you will be accepted by the manager. The user who farms those newbie accounts are going to get tired doing it everyday without any assurance that he/she can farm those accounts.

[DdmrDdmr]

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The still can I figure. Not dead easy, not going to get that far either, but some have found some very easy threads on which to harvest a few merits per account, and they sooner or later pop their accounts onto those threads to gather the harvest. They build up activity, an swoop in for the easy merits at some point, pretending to be a bunch of individuals.

This thread for example shows a straight 16 posts in a row from Newbie/Jr. Members, many of them just one or two minutes apart: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338323.msg57077156#msg57077156
Statistically, that is an outlier pattern that stands out on its own.

Whether their objective is to get into some very crappy campaign (some may likely still likely accept Jr. Members without a merit requrement) , or sell them to others is a wonder, buy some are still at it, although one would expect the volume to be substantially lower than years ago, and with much lower campaign type expectancy in any case.

[The Cryptovator]

I have noticed these kinds of fake conversations thread where any alt account are involved. It's pretty clear account farmer just trying to increase account activity which would help him later to get in any Bounty, Airdrop, or other mini tasks. Since the forum allows create multiple accounts it's hard to prevent them unless they break obvious forum rules. Blaming altcoin also not appropriate without a proper connection between each account. So account farmers will exist. I have seen a few account sellers in Fiverr where they selling accounts with activity only. Because it's hard to earn merits for them. So I am assuming this would be a reason for account farming and involved with fake conversations.

[isaac_clarke22]

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There are also one of those fake convo wherein the OP quotes something from a news. Even though the OP cites the source, s/he just seemingly to just abandon the thread and posts another thread with the same manner that mentioned previously.
That feeling that you wanted to have a relaxing conversation/discussion in a certain topic, but the OP doesn't give a shit about any replies of other users and just move on.
Smells like fishing merit for me when I encounter those threads.

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I have seen a few account sellers in Fiverr where they selling accounts with activity only.
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I looked up in Fiverr for a bit, and I found this one gig.



I haven't found selling accounts yet but I found plenty of bumping services there, so it's quite concerning that shady businesses off-forum is happening though.
I had checked Upwork as well which I primarily work on most of the time and mostly I only got BBCodes designing jobs there.

[OgNasty]

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There are also one of those fake convo wherein the OP quotes something from a news. Even though the OP cites the source, s/he just seemingly to just abandon the thread and posts another thread with the same manner that mentioned previously.
That feeling that you wanted to have a relaxing conversation/discussion in a certain topic, but the OP doesn't give a shit about any replies of other users and just move on.
Smells like fishing merit for me when I encounter those threads.

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I have seen a few account sellers in Fiverr where they selling accounts with activity only.
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I looked up in Fiverr for a bit, and I found this one gig.



I haven't found selling accounts yet but I found plenty of bumping services there, so it's quite concerning that shady businesses off-forum is happening though.
I had checked Upwork as well which I primarily work on most of the time and mostly I only got BBCodes designing jobs there.

That's funny.  That's like the opposite of the messages I get through various platforms...  Most of the time they say, "I'll stop posting on your threads and spreading lies if you send X amount of BTC here."  I guess that means I've made it?  The exception to the rule?  LOL.

Like they say, a fool and their money are quickly parted.  Anyone who would pay $10 to get spammed probably deserves it.  I can't imagine any of the postings lead to any development breakthroughs or added value whatsoever, or that anyone would pay $10 for this, but I've seen people trade their BTC for dumber things I guess.

[UserU]

Whattt... there's really a market for that huh?

So my guess is that either he engages his minions or uses some VPN to change IP address between accounts.

[FIFA worldcup]

I haven't found selling accounts yet but I found plenty of bumping services there, so it's quite concerning that shady businesses off-forum is happening though.
I had checked Upwork as well which I primarily work on most of the time and mostly I only got BBCodes designing jobs there.

Fake or paid Bumping is not allowed on the forum. Is there any way we can report such services on fiverr ? This might help to remove such services from the fiverr platform. I am not sure about the term n conditions of fiverr whether they allow illegal services to be posted  

[isaac_clarke22]

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There are other few similar gigs I saw and of course they all have multiple accounts, no wonder why ANN board in Altcoin section is flooded by spams from bumps. Other gigs were just mostly promotion through the usual social media platforms like Facebook.

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I reported these gigs, and hopefully they'll get taken down. I'll just edit this post if it was successfully removed.

[Daniel91]

They can't farm in this forum anymore, remember that there is a requirement for a certain rank before joining in a campaign and even that isn't even an assurance that you will be accepted by the manager. The user who farms those newbie accounts are going to get tired doing it everyday without any assurance that he/she can farm those accounts.

I'm not sure you're right, just remember a recent example from the ChipMixer campaign, where they discovered a member with multiple accounts.
When it comes to big money, some people without morals and honesty will do anything because of the potential big earnings, and I don’t think they will be tired because of it.
I think it is impossible to detect all such cases on the forum and I believe that there are certainly still members with multiple accounts participating in well-paid campaigns.
Unfortunately, this is the dark side of this forum that is hard to avoid.
Still, I believe most scammers aren’t good enough to reach higher forum ranks so they probably create a lot of accounts and sell them afterwards.

[FIFA worldcup]

I reported these gigs, and hopefully they'll get taken down. I'll just edit this post if it was successfully removed.

Can you give the links to these gigs so that me and others will report them too. I think that fiverr won't remove the gig, if only one or two person report the gig.
If more people can report simultaneously, much better results can be achieved.

[isaac_clarke22]

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Here is one from my provided screenshot [I will comment on your bitcointalk thread](Fiverr Link)
You might need to sign up first though, before you can report.
They don't support anonymous reporting.

[FIFA worldcup]

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Here is one from my provided screenshot [I will comment on your bitcointalk thread](Fiverr Link)
You might need to sign up first though, before you can report.
They don't support anonymous reporting.

I already have an account on fivver which i made a long time ago. I did not use it much (made no gig & also did not bought any service).
I hope i will be able to report from that account. 

[isaac_clarke22]

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Sweet. There are other gigs I reported there, like I will bump your bitcointalk announcement thread which I recall that the seller will comment 63 comments in the ANN thread/ 3 posts per day for $90.  I just forgot bookmark it in my mobile phone, because I did it on my pc, well I am not home right now.

Just use the "bitcointalk" keyword in the search bar there.

[UserU]

Here is one from my provided screenshot [I will comment on your bitcointalk thread](Fiverr Link)
You might need to sign up first though, before you can report.
They don't support anonymous reporting.

Besides the fiverr thing, I wonder if someone's willing to take the bait and expose that guy's main and alts?

[Delight Media]

If I may understand what you mean by account farming; I think having more than one account is not against the forum rules and selling account too. I think the issue of farming your account is for the users benefits and not in any way affects the forum. I urge we give attention to what is important and beneficial to the forum than this topic.

[mediaBuzz]

Something similar with this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341352.60

Most of the entries are from fresh new accounts with 0 post count.

[Cryptoflirt]

Account Farming to me is a way of profiting yourself. making an earn to oneself shouldn't be a bad thing provided is not done in a manner that forum rules are now violated. What ever positive things anyone chose to do with his or her account with respect to obeisance of the forum rules is accepted

[Pmalek]

I think having more than one account is not against the forum rules and selling account too.

Using multiple accounts is not against the rules. Many established members do it. But many established members also don't make it a secret that they have multiple accounts and have left themselves neutral feedback to confirm this. Selling your account is also allowed and not against forum rules.

But the community don't like that sort of things and they have ways to fight it. I am talking about flags and trust feedback. When the account changes hands, the new owner can be a scammer who bought it to trick his victims into believing they are dealing with a trusted individual. That can lead to the loss of money, you see?

Meriting your alt accounts from your main account is merit abuse. Enrolling multiple accounts in signature campaigns is against the rules. It's cheating, and those who do it take away valuable spots from other members who would gladly participate in the campaigns as well.   

[Lucius]

Enrolling multiple accounts in signature campaigns is against the rules.

Only if alt accounts are used in the same campaign, and as far as I know it is not a problem to use alt accounts to participate in different signature campaigns.

It's cheating, and those who do it take away valuable spots from other members who would gladly participate in the campaigns as well.   

For me personally, it is not moral for someone to use it in such a way at all - because one way or another someone is abusing their position to the detriment of someone else.