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May 24, 2021, 09:56:39 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
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May 24, 2021, 09:59:27 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.

I disagree.
Unlike religion, bitcoiners base their "beliefs" on logic and math, not just because this or that guys say so. Imho it's a huge difference.

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May 24, 2021, 10:04:01 AM
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Not everything has to be a religion, just because we believed in bitcoin doesn't mean that it is a religion, also if I am being honest, believing in bitcoin is much better than religion because we sort of see what we are having our faith in.

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May 24, 2021, 10:11:22 AM
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A religion for the sheep maybe. First of all whoever has money as his/her own god will not end very well. So I disagree. BTC is just wealth but we shouldn't become BTC slaves. Keep your head on your shoulders.

Some dumbs are already considering Musk as their god, Musk is just a mortal like all of us so nothing to praise here.

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May 24, 2021, 10:17:32 AM
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So.. you're pretty much saying that just because Bitcoiners "believe" in something, that it's a religion? With that argument then even Austrian economists also have their own religion with Mises as their god. Sounds quite stupid, right?

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May 24, 2021, 10:21:52 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

Not the first time that I've heard it here:


Personally, I don't consider bitcoin as a sort of 'religion'. Everyone is just a trader or speculator here, and we shouldn't consider Satoshi as God. He just gifted us with something that we can make money, simply as that.

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May 24, 2021, 10:35:27 AM
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Errr I'm pretty sure our belief in Bitcoin is different from the belief believes have with their religion. Sides, we aren't braindead, arguments are done with logic and facts that can be pretty much looked up almost everywhere and has a basis, one that well, compared with the basis of religion, is quite different.

Heretics? Atheists? I'd think idiots would probably be the better term (if you're an avid Bitcoin fan anw). And Satoshi ain't a god, Bitcoiners simply thank Satoshi, and that's probably it. It wouldn't go anywhere near embellishing him as a god or diefying him, it's just pure hearted thankfulness imo.

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May 24, 2021, 11:10:50 AM
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So with this logic, we say that investing in cryptocurrencies is a religion because they are speculative currencies. We invest in different cryptos because we believe in their project and will bring us good fortune in the future. People that still rejects the concept of crypto are atheists (LOL).

It's bad to see bitcoin as a religion, no one worships it like they put their future on it. Bitcoin is just an investment and also currency that has a lot of potential in the future to change our world in terms of blockchain technology.

The only religion I can think of that is related to crypto is Dogecoin army, many people invested in it without really knowing the background. They are just being influenced by Elon and believes him on what he says on his social media.
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May 24, 2021, 11:29:36 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

Bitcoin maximalists can get a little bit fanatical sometimes. Grin
I don't mind Bitcoin having it's critics,but I hate the pointless FUD,that has a hidden agenda behind it.
I don't think that anyone is trying to "eliminate or replace" Bitcoin.Maybe Roger Ver and Craig Wright were trying to replace Bitcoin Core with their own version of Bitcoin,but that's another case.
Most of the Bitcoin HODLers simply know,that Bitcoin is a scarce asset that has an increasing demand,which means that Bitcoin can only get more valuable in the future.This isn't a religion.This is just facts and logic.
 

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May 24, 2021, 11:35:06 AM
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So.. you're pretty much saying that just because Bitcoiners "believe" in something, that it's a religion? With that argument then even Austrian economists also have their own religion with Mises as their god. Sounds quite stupid, right?
It is stupid plus it makes the community put in a bad light since we look like we are a crazed fanatics who will do anyhing for bitcoin which isn't true. Also, the definition of religion is that it is a belief and worship of an omnipotent being which doesn't exist in bitcoin.
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May 24, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
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Religion is a belief in supernatural. Bitcoin is nothing like that. Just because there are people devote to Bitcoin doesn't mean that Bitcoin is a religion. And as far as movements go, Bitcoin community isn't exactly monolithic, there are people of all sorts of political or ethical beliefs here. You don't even have to hate the government or fiat currency or banks to be a bitcoiner.
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May 24, 2021, 11:57:37 AM
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You need to define which definition of religion are you talking about since there's a huge difference between the two. How in the world it became religion when we are only talking about mere transactions. I guess others have gone too far defining the situation of the market right now. everyone should know the definition of which things they are talking about before comparing it to the other things. If you skipped that basic process, then you are not confusing yourself, you are confusing the others as well.

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May 24, 2021, 01:39:57 PM
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 I will not totally disagree with your claim but I will say that satoshi as the creator or let me say inventor can be likened to god in this context but as a religion, I will totally disagree. If you say bitcoin is a religion then there are millions of things that should be a religion like gold, stocks, lands, and properties because we have numerous people who believe and invested in it.

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May 24, 2021, 01:55:58 PM
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 anyone who oppose btc and spread fud will be attacked on social media and change.org but bitcoin didnt create a religion, we are just faithful 😬  satoshi is our savior but we just need to cruxify someone everytime the market goes south like elon so that we can go on with the bullrun again. op is joking ofc.









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Bitcoin is not a religion, but bitcoin is a tool for making a payment or an investment. We believe bitcoin is not the same as we believe the religion because bitcoin and religion are different. Bitcoin is like a stock, gold, or other investment things, but unfortunately, bitcoin is not yet approved in all countries, so bitcoin is on the grey side. But for people who involve in cryptocurrency will agree that bitcoin is an asset that can help them make money. But if you think that bitcoin is like a religion, then that will be up to you.

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Religion is a belief in supernatural forces and this is associated with the emergence of humanity and its development under the auspices of these forces. Bitcoin cannot belong to religion, since there is nothing supernatural here. Its appearance is built on the existing laws of nature and is simply a new technology. Therefore, it is not worth comparing Bitcoin with religion.

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Bitcoin doesn't require "belief" it only requires one to understand (and perhaps read and understand the code).  No faith or any other hallmarks of religion are required, only math and science.
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I think that it is not worth talking about religion since there is no idol or deity here. I think this mass insanity is always connected only with the purpose of profit and increasing profits. When the price falls below 20-10 thousand dollars again, people's interest will fall along with the price. Only the most loyal fans and admirers will remain. Then it will be possible to talk about the flock and other religious things while it is too early, since it has become mainstream.

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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
Not agree with this because if we do make out some comparison between religion and believers of Bitcoin then its totally obvious and even we do share up the same
faith and there are still who do opposes on it which is normal. Money or currency shouldnt really be praised nor make it as a holy thing which its just
too inappropriate for us to consider that this thing had already established some sort of Religion.Honestly, it doesnt really fit out on
the criteria.

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May 24, 2021, 11:44:23 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

Religion is for all God's believer with a lot of doctrine and people have a holy faith on it while Bitcoin is a digital currency created by Satoshi and exist trough internet and by the use of modern technology (Computer, Cellphone, etc...). How did you say that bitcoin is a religion? Bitcoin give us wealth in literal because we can make money out of it and you can't treat money as your God because that is bad.

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I don't know why you can assume Bitcoin as a religion.  Huh
It is very different from religion. Bitcoin is an investment or asset, people believe in it to get profits. While religion is like a guide of our life. We don't expect profits or earning money from religion. We purely believe in religion for "the life after life", no specific hope for commercial purpose. So, you must differ between "belief" in Bitcoin and religion.

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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

Oh look another person to come along and attempt to gaslight. 

Welp.  Go find another sheeple audience.  There's lots of them out there, they mostly listen to CNN or the NYT.   

If this was an attempt to get noticed Welp.  it wont last long.
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Religion is a belief in supernatural. Bitcoin is nothing like that. Just because there are people devote to Bitcoin doesn't mean that Bitcoin is a religion. And as far as movements go, Bitcoin community isn't exactly monolithic, there are people of all sorts of political or ethical beliefs here. You don't even have to hate the government or fiat currency or banks to be a bitcoiner.
Religion is a social-cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, beliefs, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, and spiritual elements; however, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion.
This is the definition of religion in Wikipedia
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I think religion is a kind of consensus, and Bitcoin is maintained through consensus, so Bitcoin is something similar to religion
Consensus is particularly important in the Bitcoin system, as well as in religion. But the difference between the two is that Bitcoin is done by blockchain technology, while religion is done by preaching (sometimes it may be force coercion).
We believe in Bitcoin because we understand the technical support behind it. Those who don’t believe in Bitcoin have not even understood Bitcoin and blindly resist it. So I call popularization of blockchain knowledge a Missionary.
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I don't know why you can assume Bitcoin as a religion.  Huh
It is very different from religion. Bitcoin is an investment or asset, people believe in it to get profits. While religion is like a guide of our life. We don't expect profits or earning money from religion. We purely believe in religion for "the life after life", no specific hope for commercial purpose. So, you must differ between "belief" in Bitcoin and religion.

Okay, first of all thank you for your reply
I am not considering Bitcoin and religion from the perspective of [the the life after life]. I know that holding Bitcoin will not make me go to heaven in the the life after life (if there is the the life after life), nor is it giving me life guidance to consider the relationship between the two. . It’s just that from the perspective of consensus, Bitcoin is very similar to religion. One is based on blockchain technology and the other is based on missionary.
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.

I disagree.
Unlike religion, bitcoiners base their "beliefs" on logic and math, not just because this or that guys say so. Imho it's a huge difference.
Okay, first of all thank you for your reply.
The two points you said are also the reason why I compare Bitcoin to religion. I think that a major core of religion is public knowledge. Bitcoin and religion have this, but one is through technology and the other is through mission.
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Believe in Bitcoin is freedom of belief. People who believe in freedom are likely to be attracted to Bitcoin.
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Social Science believes that religion is a kind of cultural phenomenon which appears when human society develops to a certain historical stage and belongs to social ideology. Characterized by the belief that supernatural forces or entities exist outside the physical world, generating awe and worship of the mystery, and thereby eliciting belief cognition and ritualistic activities, does Not Belong to the myth of a kind of spiritual sustenance.So I don't think bitcoin created a religion.
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Not really attacked on, but just corrected with logics and not just slamming them with their beliefs just like how other believers in a certain religion slams their "sacred book" into non-believers.
Maybe the OP just thought that because many are going into crypto because of the hype that it made a cult or religion as well. Cheesy
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
It's not like that and bitcoin is still treated as currency or store of value by investors not above that.If people believe in something it doesn't implies that it became a religious path for the community.Are you worshipping Sathoshi daily or set up religious organization for Bitcoin anywhere so why do you think this way?

On the contrary part Religion has some different implications like it give you life lessons to live in society,imposes certain restrictions on you, worship the most superior or gurus that have started that religion but it's not the case with Bitcoin.

So use it as currency instead of mixing up different social elements with it.

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Um coming from a newbie with 27 posts, seems not really worth arguing against. But what the hell, this is a fun topic. So you basically accuse Bitcoin enthusiasts and supporters of having their own "Cult of Satoshi" something that can be seen with the "Cult of Apple". Well for one, the financial sector is a bit different from consumer corporations churning out products for people to consume. Here there is a goal - Financial independence. Same as with the Stock Market, Treasury bonds, Forex, and also Gold investments. You can also accuse them of having their own religions too if that is the case. I would say, not really a cult. But rather a community of like minded people out to get the best Bitcoin can offer.

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May 25, 2021, 03:04:05 PM
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I don't see any relation of bitcoin to religion, bitcoin is being used as an asset, this is good for investment and that is why many people are believing in bitcoin but that is not enough to call it a religion because both things are really different, it is not enough to consider things as a religion just because we believe it there is a deep meaning for religion, it is a belief that people are doing in their daily lives and it is also somehow related to God. We don't need any beliefs in bitcoin, we just need to understand its concept.
I will not totally disagree with your claim but I will say that satoshi as the creator or let me say inventor can be likened to god in this context
Yeah it can be, as Satoshi Nakamoto is the one who created bitcoin and now is being popular all over the world.

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It does require a bit of faith for this kind of project to take off.

I've been using open source software since 2000 or so, linux vs windows, vim vs emacs.

RMS is a fanatic.

Bitcoin also as the monetary value, so it becomes even more emotional.

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May 25, 2021, 03:53:42 PM
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Logically, if bitcoin is accepted as a means of payment like money, will money be called the same as OP, and bitcoin is like any other investment or trade in the world, what distinguishes bitcoin is only believed and believed to be more profitable, and without involving other people and freedom because we alone control .
it has nothing to do with religion and specifically, religion is defined as the belief system adopted and the actions manifested by a group or society in interpreting and responding to what is felt and believed to be supernatural and holy.
everyone doesn't think bitcoin is a religion because they get involved in possession with the hope of making a profit and so on.
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The two points you said are also the reason why I compare Bitcoin to religion. I think that a major core of religion is public knowledge. Bitcoin and religion have this, but one is through technology and the other is through mission.

Sorry, but then you can say about all scientists and all sciences that they are religions or they start a religion.

Imho it's a huge difference. In religion you hope that a "supreme being" will basically save your soul and maybe help you out here and there too. In sciences you base onto proven facts and logic and usually know what to expect (as opposed to just hope).

Of course, many go for Bitcoin only by hoping it'll make them rich no matter what and maybe that can be seen as religion. But that's for newcomers, not for long time holders. The long time holders did (imho) their homework and know what to expect, else they would be no longer holders (usually because they got scared at certain price fluctuations).

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May 25, 2021, 04:19:26 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
Bitcoin is not a religion or a cult, however I can understand why some people may superficially think things like that as those that are the strongest holders vouch for bitcoin with a huge level of conviction, however this is because they understand what is up, 99% of the people have no idea how the economy works which is why they are still not invested in bitcoin, but for the rest that understand what it is going on they see in bitcoin one of the few ways to protect their wealth and they are not going to lay low when those people that know nothing about the economy say that bitcoin is a scam.

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Some questions, when you start wondering, you kind of have the answer to it yourself -- self-answering questions I call them (tm).

Belief in a greater power, belief in invisible people, belief in intangible benefits and unprovable futures, belief in malevolent forces bent on destroying the unifying object? Heck, I've been guilty of believing far more ridiculous notions than Bitcoin;)


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It's OK to support your Nation's founding fathers who selflessly gave their best for the good of the nation, and it's important to stick to the good principles/laws the Nation is built on rather than trying to eliminate or replace the Nation. .That's not religion... It's patriotism

By the way, , there is only one GOD, who is the CREATOR of this World and Heavens. Satoshi doesn't qualify as GOD, neither does supporting Bitcoin qualify as Religion. True Religion is serving the CREATOR of this World in constant purity/holiness.



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May 25, 2021, 05:04:33 PM
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I disagree.
Unlike religion, bitcoiners base their "beliefs" on logic and math, not just because this or that guys say so. Imho it's a huge difference.

I'd argue that's far from the reality. From what I've seen, most of the Bitcoin maximalists use anything but math and logic. The Bitcoin researchers and developers do, but that's not the average audience of Bitcoin today Smiley
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A religion makes me think of a cult where people worship something. We don't worship anything, we don't think bitcoin is better than us, our savior, a god.
This is what religion comes down to, a god!

Bitcoin is not my god just as fiat money is not my god.

Bitcoin is something i believe in, but you can also believe in yourself which doesn't make this into a religion. Get real man Cheesy
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May 25, 2021, 08:55:58 PM
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You could also argue its a cult.

When people start ranting that btc is the one and only true crypto, above all else, amen lol.

Just like religion, only the atheist is right and will go to heaven.


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most people think about bitcoin is how great it can make you good at financial, trust using facts. and when you said like religion, how about when someone is deceived by this stuff? and people never worship something like bitcoin
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May 26, 2021, 12:43:51 AM
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Um coming from a newbie with 27 posts, seems not really worth arguing against. But what the hell, this is a fun topic. So you basically accuse Bitcoin enthusiasts and supporters of having their own "Cult of Satoshi" something that can be seen with the "Cult of Apple". Well for one, the financial sector is a bit different from consumer corporations churning out products for people to consume. Here there is a goal - Financial independence. Same as with the Stock Market, Treasury bonds, Forex, and also Gold investments. You can also accuse them of having their own religions too if that is the case. I would say, not really a cult. But rather a community of like minded people out to get the best Bitcoin can offer.
First of all, I am sorry that my activity is very low, and there is no merit at all. I will be more active in the future to increase my activity . I am a newbie who has just joined this community, and I am very glad that everyone can discuss under the question I am questioning.

Financial independence is also my goals. One of my purposes in this community is to find the latest news and opinions, find some new projects to invest in.

My thoughts on the religiousization of Bitcoin are simply because of consensus. It reminds me of Scientology lol,‘another form of religion’
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May 26, 2021, 01:43:51 AM
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never equate Bitcoin or crypto like religion, it is incompatible and inappropriate.
Bitcoin is only a digital asset developed by the community itself and does not cover all aspects of this world.

The future digital assets that can change transactions are more revolutionary, but cannot be equated with a religion, it is very different.
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I would never agree that bitcoin is called a religion just because people believe in it. Public trust in bitcoin is only limited to the potential future of bitcoin and the developing innovation in the financial world. It is different from religion because basically bitcoin is a revolutionary currency which is different from fiat currency. I have to say that it doesn't deserve to be called a religion regardless of what belief you hold.

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May 26, 2021, 04:08:40 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
hello sir, I haven't thought about bitcoin is a religious war, I know bitcoin is a digital asset, where we fight in the price market, so it's possible that bitcoin is not related to any religion, so please don't link bitcoin with a particular religion because it's too sensitive

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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way,
we believe in bitcoin but not in a same way as we believed in our religion because the belief for our own religion is more stronger and more serious than in bitcoin .
we can sell our btc soon or when our mood change but we cant sell or replace our religion because that was a huge sin .

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Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
god because he created btc and like god ,
most of us dont see the real appearance of satoshi  but btc is not mighty as god .
 btc didnt change the world or bought a revolution .
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May 26, 2021, 05:46:41 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
You have a very wild imagination mate  Grin

Imagine that even Bitcoin can be a God?  Grin and also Holders believes only in one thing But money/income so this will never be religious .
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Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
So Altcoins are the enemy here? starting to make fun here lol.
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In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
Lol, God is the way where people can send their prayers and at some point being heard but Satoshi? doesn't even show himself since 10 years ago.

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May 26, 2021, 06:34:55 AM
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From what I've seen, most of the Bitcoin maximalists use anything but math and logic. The Bitcoin researchers and developers do, but that's not the average audience of Bitcoin today Smiley

You've "miscalculated" the "average audience", but that can happen easily.
One tip: don't take the numbers by the noise, there will always be some noisier ones which will want to make you think they do represent the majority. And if maybe sometimes they do, it's a seldom case.
And another tip: most bitcoiners may not be maximalists.

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May 26, 2021, 07:06:23 AM
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I think Bitcoin users believe in profit more. They have calculations and logical arguments about the process of increasing the value of Bitcoin.
They fight for Bitcoin are also fighting for their interests. If one day Bitcoin is forced to stop, they will also leave to preserve their assets. The last time we saw Bitcoin drop in price mercilessly. Panic selling is still going terribly.
Bitcoin is finance, it is never religion. I know many people believe in Bitcoin and cut their losses to a very heavy extent.
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May 26, 2021, 07:29:17 AM
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I don't think that believing in Bitcoin is the same as believing in religion. Many people who have Bitcoin in their hands claim that they believe in Bitcoin. But I believe that more than 90% of the people here simply use Bitcoin as an investment method. When people enter the crypto world, they have heard too many stories of getting rich overnight, so they expect such things to happen to them one day. But when they didn't get rich overnight, but went bankrupt, this belief disappeared. I think the true faith is to be able to endure loneliness. People will not be intimidated by some darkness, but can see the light of the future through the darkness in front of them.
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May 26, 2021, 07:36:57 AM
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I'm not mentioning that bitcoin is a new religion. I am a supporter of bitcoin, not to deify Satoshi, I am just amazed by the idea, I love the development and path of bitcoin

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May 26, 2021, 03:22:01 PM
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I only know that there is a religion that is to buy crypto at a good price than open a telegram channel and engage people with technical analysis. The final step is for these guys to dump everything they buy at the targets they draw.


Bitcoin did not create religion but we ourselves have come up with other things around Bitcoin. I suppose everyone comes to the market to make money, some for passion. So when the right profit target is reached they will sell all their crypto.

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May 26, 2021, 03:30:39 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.
The community is not worshiping Satoshi nowhere near the way people worship their gods. There are no sacrifices, holidays, rituals or prayers, there's nothing supernatural about Satoshi and Bitcoin. People believe in many things, but it's not enough to make a religion. Some believe that Democrats are better for the US than the Republicans (and vice versa), most believe that having police is better than completely dismantling it as an institution, many believe that stopping to eat meat is going to save the environment. All of these qualify as beliefs, but none are parts of any religion. I think the same goes for Bitcoin.

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May 26, 2021, 03:54:17 PM
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Unlike Religion which encourages you to believe without questioning, bitcoin has goot  lots of explaining and reasoning as to what and why something ought to be that way, the courses to it and  the outcome expected of some series of activities.

Though, its very common between bitcoin or crypto enthusiast to have a common sense of reasoning behind the bitcoin revolution compared with the beginners in the crypt fields, the new investors who are constantly selling with the arrival of a bear market as, they often feel this is it. Mean while, those that doesn't support or are not in agreement with the bitcoin revolution seems like those in the dark ages to the new world.

Well, not all are meant to understand and government isn't making it easily appreciated or welcomed either but then, bitcoin is no religion as it seeks no patronage or a promise of a roast or hectic life after.

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Lol, not really, it's not like something that has believers in it will automatically be a religion right? And bitcoin doesn't have that great establishment that will keep its followers lol, if we want to compare it to religion. Since many are willing to abandoned it as easy as it goes.
But the thing that satoshi is unknown, like god is kinda similar though lol. Many people value satoshi even knowing who he is, or even if he is really real or not. But no, i don't think bitcoin is like a religion.

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Lol, not really, it's not like something that has believers in it will automatically be a religion right? And bitcoin doesn't have that great establishment that will keep its followers lol, if we want to compare it to religion. Since many are willing to abandoned it as easy as it goes.
But the thing that satoshi is unknown, like god is kinda similar though lol. Many people value satoshi even knowing who he is, or even if he is really real or not. But no, i don't think bitcoin is like a religion.
How about we do talk about those fans with those celebrities out there? Since they are fans or supporters then we can call this as a religion? I think not.

This is something in related to this and i dont see the point on why we do consider this to be looking like a religion which is totally in different sense.

We are all believers but doesnt mean it did build a religion but well we do have different impressions but for most then it isnt what it is.

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May 27, 2021, 06:16:19 AM
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For sure many people believes in bitcoin but that doesn't makes it a religion and truly many are also against it, there are more deep beliefs and culture connected to religion, bitcoin hodlers has fate that bitcoin will fetch them profit from just holding this simply shows there believe in bitcoin but not actually so deep, because at an incoming bear season most people will sell of to maintain profits there made already and most people panic sells at any FUD which occur in the crypto space, so this shows their beliefs ain't strong.

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May 30, 2021, 04:38:50 PM
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I would never agree that bitcoin is called a religion just because people believe in it. Public trust in bitcoin is only limited to the potential future of bitcoin and the developing innovation in the financial world. It is different from religion because basically bitcoin is a revolutionary currency which is different from fiat currency. I have to say that it doesn't deserve to be called a religion regardless of what belief you hold.
Besides that argument is flawed in the sense that if a sense of believing is the only thing you need to establish that something is a religion then almost everything is a religion, after all when you make a call you believe it is going to connect to the person you are calling for, when you turn on your TV you believe there is going to be electricity running to turn it on, bitcoin is the same, bitcoin is based on principles we have verified for thousands of years so we believe in it but this does not mean that it is a religion.

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May 30, 2021, 06:22:13 PM
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Is politics a religion?

Is being a democrat or republican a religion? Or is being a socialist, libertarian, conservative, or liberal a religion?

Or watching CNN? MSNBC? Fox News?

Is believing in your president/prime minister, Bill Nye, Carl Sagan, or Kim Kardashian a religion?

They each can have cultish elements and ridiculous human behavior promoting them, but none are religions, much like bitcoin is not a religion.  

Unless you think bitcoin promotes something to do with the afterlife, creation of the universe, the supernatural, or a god, then it is not a religion and your definitions are highly confused or you are being disingenuous.
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[1]
Sometimes the good use of adjectives, nouns and vervos, together with good premises lead to good "guesses", it is also what leads some writers to create novels, short stories, science fiction, etc. Sometimes they border on the absurd, but they are entertaining.
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Scientists distance themselves from the above or the science.
It is not that the above[1] is wrong, in fact it entertains and it is a field where sometimes things are so good that someone can win prizes or become a good writer, but never an prize NoBel.

His Op, falls so as not to send him to another place, in the first paragraph [1]

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This collective craziness, in my opinion, is always motivated solely by greed and the desire to increase profits. People's interest will collapse along with the price if the price goes below 20-10 thousand dollars again. Only the most ardent supporters and admirers will be left. Then, since it has become mainstream, it will be possible to discuss the flock and other theological topics when it is still too early.

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May 30, 2021, 11:30:17 PM
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You may believe in something very strict, but not everything that you believe becomes a religion.
Religion is something that you believe, you use for your daily life activities, and what you believe to implement in everything you are doing during this life and hereafter.
But, Bitcoin isn't it. This is just a belief in a thing, earning money, and then crashing can hurt everyone. I disagree.
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May 31, 2021, 03:11:27 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.

I disagree.
Unlike religion, bitcoiners base their "beliefs" on logic and math, not just because this or that guys say so. Imho it's a huge difference.

BS 99% of the people here can't even read code, or do math.

Bitcoiners beliefs are GREED & FEAR, but mostly greed.

Bitcoiners are not logical, this is insanity.

BTC CAP a month ago was bigger than $1.2T, bigger than most USA company's capitalization, like it gong to keep going up and suck up the entire earths GDP, bitcoiners are mental midgets.
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You may believe in something very strict, but not everything that you believe becomes a religion.
Religion is something that you believe, you use for your daily life activities, and what you believe to implement in everything you are doing during this life and hereafter.
But, Bitcoin isn't it. This is just a belief in a thing, earning money, and then crashing can hurt everyone. I disagree.


Will technically BTC is 'cult', not a religion, where religion is recognized by society, a 'cult' is usually detrimental to the well being of its members.
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May 31, 2021, 09:22:39 AM
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This collective craziness, in my opinion, is always motivated solely by greed and the desire to increase profits. People's interest will collapse along with the price if the price goes below 20-10 thousand dollars again. Only the most ardent supporters and admirers will be left. Then, since it has become mainstream, it will be possible to discuss the flock and other theological topics when it is still too early.
Yes, real gold is not afraid of fire. There is only one possibility to hold Bitcoin for a long time, not only is proficient in blockchain technology, but also has a strong spirit of decentralization
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May 31, 2021, 09:24:52 AM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.

I disagree.
Unlike religion, bitcoiners base their "beliefs" on logic and math, not just because this or that guys say so. Imho it's a huge difference.

BS 99% of the people here can't even read code, or do math.

Bitcoiners beliefs are GREED & FEAR, but mostly greed.

Bitcoiners are not logical, this is insanity.

BTC CAP a month ago was bigger than $1.2T, bigger than most USA company's capitalization, like it gong to keep going up and suck up the entire earths GDP, bitcoiners are mental midgets.
Bitcoin believers should have read the white paper, just like Christians have read the Bible. Even if most people don’t know how to code, many people have read Bitcoin’s white paper
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May 31, 2021, 09:57:33 AM
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Lol, not really, it's not like something that has believers in it will automatically be a religion right? And bitcoin doesn't have that great establishment that will keep its followers lol, if we want to compare it to religion. Since many are willing to abandoned it as easy as it goes.
But the thing that satoshi is unknown, like god is kinda similar though lol. Many people value satoshi even knowing who he is, or even if he is really real or not. But no, i don't think bitcoin is like a religion.
Another interesting question. I am curious about how religion attracts believers when it is first established (excluding the case where parents are believers). Religion connects everyone through stories, and more and more people listen to it. Many people believed it and became a small group and gradually became a religion.
Bitcoin uses more reliable blockchain technology to connect all traders together. Now that we have formed a forum, we can completely change it into a religious organization to persuade more people to "believe".
By the way, I participated in the project you signed and they disappointed me(Irrelevant price). I don't want to say more about the specific reasons. I can only say that his team is not very good (if you are a member of the team, I will withdraw my words).
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May 31, 2021, 10:00:45 AM
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Sometimes the good use of adjectives, nouns and vervos, together with good premises lead to good "guesses", it is also what leads some writers to create novels, short stories, science fiction, etc. Sometimes they border on the absurd, but they are entertaining.
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Scientists distance themselves from the above or the science.
It is not that the above[1] is wrong, in fact it entertains and it is a field where sometimes things are so good that someone can win prizes or become a good writer, but never an prize NoBel.

His Op, falls so as not to send him to another place, in the first paragraph [1]
Thank you for your reminder. Sorry that my mother tongue is not English. I will work hard to learn English in the future.
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June 07, 2021, 12:47:55 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

BTC is just speculative assets which own by a large number of people and it doesn't mean it can be compared to religion just simply because the majority of those people believe in BTC's potential growth.

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June 07, 2021, 04:05:13 PM
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I sometimes wonder whether Bitcoin has established a religion.
Those of us who are fixed holders of Bitcoin are believers of Bitcoin.
Those who try to eliminate or replace Bitcoin are heretics or atheists. What is happening now I want to call it a religious war
In this way, Satoshi , the creator of Bitcoin, can be called a god. He changed the order of the world and brought revolution.

Probably no more than hedgefunds or the banking industry have established religions.
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June 07, 2021, 04:50:13 PM
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Bitcoin enthusiasts blame those who want to replace bitcoin because these people are willing to manipulate the market in order to benefit themselves without thinking about the consequences that may be very harmful to crypto universe as a whole. What you categorized as atheists are the guys who would sacrifice the entire crypto market to make their personal fortune grow faster, what includes defamating bitcoin and overpricing their own projects importance. I'm not saying they can't try, but to every action there is always a reaction. Of course bitcoin holders will defend the original crypto currency among all.

I think it can't be compared to a religion, because religion subject involves the spiritual world and elements which are unknown to us and to the science. In crypto's debate, arguments are purely based in physical world laws and elements. We don't rely in faith to defend bitcoin or to defend it should be replaced by an altcoin.

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