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May 25, 2021, 07:33:56 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

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May 25, 2021, 07:40:10 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

It's about time. I wish I'd see many more think like this instead of baaaa-ing after each tweet of these "personalities" for which the followers are only some numbers for their pride.

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May 25, 2021, 07:43:26 AM
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Congratulations on the realization l. I would say you have taken right approach towards bitcoin. Corporates and governments will always try to manipulate the crypto market because it goes against their own ideology of finances. So holding onto your own beliefs is necessary and hopefully that will reward you in near future.

Personally I didn't sell any of my bitcoins during this turbulent time. Holding onto each one of them with the same hope as yours!

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May 25, 2021, 08:07:32 AM
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I've would like to congratulate you for realizing that very good idea. Stop being a follower of Elon Musk and Saylor. Go and become a individual in following and chasing your dreams. Don't let anyone dictate you just like what this two are doing. They are the one who are dictating and indicating the price of some coins in the market. Just like for example Elon, he is the one who dictate and mark the price of dogecoin that's why it become so hype in the past months.



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May 25, 2021, 08:10:13 AM
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Yup I just completely ignored Elon Musk (and maybe Saylor) on Twitter because I unfollowed him. I just don't care whether if he is bullish or bearish about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies (with the exception of Dogecoin in which he remains pure bullish on it). If we truly believe in Bitcoin and holding it for a long while, we should not be worried about the market situation that we are in. Because I know that Bitcoin will always bounce back. They have said many times that Bitcoin was dead, but it always come out of nowhere and become stronger than ever.

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May 25, 2021, 08:17:44 AM
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I believe it is going to be a matter of time before the rest of us in crypto realize this same opinion and it will be all over for these rich cats and whatever they think and say about Bitcoin will have little to no effect on the price. These guys are all about themselves and will do anything to make their money with no regard for anyone else and the sooner we all realize this and forge our own destiny it will continue to be their playground.   
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May 25, 2021, 08:22:02 AM
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Indeed, it doesn't make any sense to care about what saylor or elon is saying and don't need to be influenced by those celebs. Many more celebs will come into this industry and play around for their own purpose. After a certain time, those celebs will left this market. On the other hand, bitcoin is still surging from it's beginning points and more to come in the upcoming years. Be a diamond hand hodlers and accumulate more at dip, IMHO.

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May 25, 2021, 08:23:43 AM
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And the more attention they're given, the more power they'll have. I understood the meme part of Musk's tweets before, but the memes turned into.. a big mess. Should be a lesson learned for the entire crypto community, and the only ones to be blamed for tbe losses are ourselves for trusting a billionaire who's never shown care for everyone else.

I'm officially an individualist as well from now on. Joined your party. Smiley
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May 25, 2021, 08:28:26 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

In 2017, people was looking for McAfee's tweets.
In 2021, people is looking for Musk's tweets.

We all called McAfee's as scammer, liar and pumper. Because he was just tweeting about a cryptocurrencies with its features and powerful side. He is in jail now.
BTW, Musk one of the richest guy in the world. He said BTC is good 1st and then he said it is consume so much energy. He is constantly pumping Doge also. I don't know what can I say more.
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You are right! Actually, people should never care about these people because no matter how strong they are the effect they make on the market on completely temporary. One day they are bitcoin lovers and another day they will be tweeting against bitcoin. Here they will make some short term effect on the market. If you follow and listen to what they do you will be trapped by the emotional effects. That's how people lose their money.

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This is nothing new now because I don't believe in them, but I always hate them, they are enemies in disguise, stabbing in the back, provoking bitcoin users, scaring people who have been playing in bitcoin for a long time, because they want to profit themselves ,, elon musk twet negative thing about bitcoin on twiter ,, the goal is none other than just want to collect bitcoins when it goes down, and will take big profits, when bitcoin starts to recover. ..
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May 25, 2021, 11:59:28 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
Its good for you, now you became a matured cryptocurrency investor. But do you still don't care about the price when it dumps 50% or more over night? If you still strongly believes that bitcoin is the way to go then you are actually on the way to be successful in the next few years.
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
Its good for you, now you became a matured cryptocurrency investor. But do you still don't care about the price when it dumps 50% or more over night? If you still strongly believes that bitcoin is the way to go then you are actually on the way to be successful in the next few years.

I'm not scared because I'm a HODLer since 2013 and never sold a satoshi. But we all have needs and someday sooner or later I might have to sell a small percentage, can't hodl forever. Hopefully will be able to take them back, if not at least I hope to sell for a great price.

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May 25, 2021, 12:14:45 PM
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We need to spread the message and carry ourselves towards the next ATH in the market. Don't listen to FUDs, they will never have your best interest and people who wrote them are bitter or close minded when it comes to new ideas.

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May 25, 2021, 12:44:55 PM
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It was out of business interest that Michael Saylor had to do it but his move would have been more respectable without Elon in it. We don't know what's going to come out this. Maybe some Government sanctioned green energy Tesla facilities exclusively for mining?

Yup I just completely ignored Elon Musk (and maybe Saylor) on Twitter because I unfollowed him.
I did the same. The concern over electricity consumption over mining would have been acceptable but he also went on and bashed crypto payment over his paypal.
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That is good. At least, you don't listen to that guy or others, and you only care about yourself. I agree with you because we need to responsible for our money.

Bitcoin will reach that price in the future, but we need to have patience because the price will not jump to that price in the short term. Only more adoptions in many places will help bitcoin to increase, whether it is slow or fast. The rich people will not care about us because they don't know us. It is better to concern with ourselves and still to try to make a profit.
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Happy for you. I've long stopped even looking at what crypto personalities even say, no matter their reputation. I don't ignore them, I just don't let it sway me no matter what, heck I even stopped following them on twitter and just kept following artists and videographers instead. I instead look for news and updates on various crypto news websites and just get myself up to date through them (or even here sometimes).

It's also funny how Bitcoin pretty much advocates freedom, and yet investors let themselves get swayed (pretty much controlled at this point) by the tweets of one personality. It is freedom in one sense, but it's kinda sad to even consider it still as one.

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Yes, now is the time that we take for granted the manipulations of these billionaires and celebrities creating the hype. People should not care about them because they are only there with their selfish goals in mind. Like I said enough of their schemes and shenanigans. Pro now then after a month became a critic. Enough of that hubris. Everybody in the community must make a statement loud and clear that we are no longer interested in their attempts to manipulate Bitcoin and the Alts.

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Congrats mate, I hope you'll always be individualist.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams
It'll happen soon. I believe that in this summer, Bitcoin will increase rapidly. I won't be surprised if we pass the $200k and no, this ain't bullish. Judging the S2FX model, its median should be $288k. Some say $500k-$800k. The thing is that it's a bubble and the higher it'll go, the more it will decrease afterwards. Seriously, this is the third halving and we're all going experience it again just like 4 and 8 years ago.

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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
good for you! it should have been like that in the first place. they are businessmen/entrepreneur and their actions will always be for the betterment of themselves. it's just sad that a lot of people are easily influenced by them and relying on what they will say in order to make a move instead of thinking for themselves and trusting their own.

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everyone doesn't believe his words anymore ,, even though there are thousands of negative tweets about bitcoin that he posted on twiter, no one will want to hear it again, because everyone already knows elon musk, everyone also knows elon musk's cunning tactics. ..

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everyone doesn't believe his words anymore ,, even though there are thousands of negative tweets about bitcoin that he posted on twiter, no one will want to hear it again, because everyone already knows elon musk, everyone also knows elon musk's cunning tactics. ..

Initially he was taken seriously when he started and bought btc and tweeted for doge, but later on now people are knowing about the way he is trying to manipulate the markets and make the most of it for his benefits and thus slowly things will fade away for him and already started to lose his credibility now in the market.

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That's a good decision. I hope that everyone would have the same mindset too. It's really an unwise action to believe in what those influencers say. We have seen how they did it for their own motives and I believe that we should all learn from that. It's better to have the guts to deal with the market rather than listening to those who are just trying to manipulate the prices.
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
just ignore every Elon word, because he's just pretending...

With his many social media followers, he felt that he could set the price of BTC. without him, Bitcoin still has a 'strong hand' people that would continue to support Bitcoin.



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May 25, 2021, 04:05:43 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
just ignore every Elon word, because he's just pretending...

With his many social media followers, he felt that he could set the price of BTC. without him, Bitcoin still has a 'strong hand' people that would continue to support Bitcoin.

Thanks to him that there are people who learned bitcoin because of him, bringing them inside this market

and allow those new investors to check around and see the potentials, for sure those people who really aiming

to earned will continue the chase and won't follow him after learning the system.
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May 25, 2021, 05:05:41 PM
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Very good, sometimes we have to follow what @virtualdn do.
I really like your actions bro, sometimes we don't need to listen to what other people say even though it's investors and billionaires though because we decide for ourselves.
other people may say anything but the decision is in our hands. because the satisfaction in itself is when we are satisfied with the achievement of our results without being motivated by others

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May 25, 2021, 07:05:47 PM
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I just look at their Twitter page and get a good laugh on what they say about Bitcoin regardless if it is positive or negative. We can all just say that they don't have any single idea in Bitcoin.
Hopefully this Musk trend and threads will slowly stop already.
It is just looking like that we care a lot about celebrities' words, now that we have OP saying that s/he doesn't care about the words from celebrities s/he mentioned, we're good to go.
 
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May 25, 2021, 07:31:56 PM
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The more people in Cryptocurrency think like this the better for everyone of us in the Cryptocurrency world. Thinking like this makes those that believe they have sole influence on market to thread with caution in manipulatibg the market and prices.
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May 25, 2021, 07:58:35 PM
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I agree with the author that this is a platform for the rich, but not only for them. There will be enough space for everyone under this sun, provided that we think for the future. If you buy now and forget about it for several months, you will definitely get something good. The prospect is excellent, and I, too, have long been unimportant what the "tough guys" from twitter and other experts say there. I also want to make my own profit and I believe in this investment tool that will someday make us richer than we are now.

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May 25, 2021, 07:58:42 PM
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I think most bitcointalk users are individualists in their own way. There is no need to listen to anyone, but it is the way of the world, we will listen to any news concerning cryptocurrencies, because many of us are traders, for whom it is necessary to take into account any news for profitable trading. Of course, if you hold and are willing to hold your BTCs for a long time, your goals will certainly come true.

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May 25, 2021, 10:26:19 PM
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With everyone easily swayed by trends and mentions from different influential people, it is definitely integral that you take their advices and claims with a grain of salt. As shown with what happened between bitcoin and Elon Musk, where he completely renounced all connections to the coin and backed instead a memecoin with little to no use-case, to blindly believe on someone just because they are rich, or funny is definitely illogical.
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May 25, 2021, 10:35:38 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

DUDE,

You are and always will be a Full Blown Bitcoin Cultist.

Whether you like the guy or hate him, he is showing his influence over crypto is currently the most powerful.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-bitcoin-mining-council-103849289.html
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Elon Musk has met with executives from leading North American bitcoin miners to discuss concerns over the industry's energy usage. The move comes a couple of weeks after Tesla, for which Musk serves as CEO, suspended bitcoin payments. At the time, the automaker said it was "concerned about rapidly increasing use of fossil fuels for Bitcoin mining and transactions, especially coal, which has the worst emissions of any fuel."


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May 25, 2021, 10:37:15 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

Unfortunately there are still many people who are influenced by the rich, even though as you said most of the rich people only care about themselves.
They do not care about the disadvantaged crypto community, the most important thing is for Saylor or Musk they can get a big profit from their actions.
So I agree the best thing we can do is not be influenced by other people, if we believe in Bitcoin, just buy Bitcoin regularly. Collect as much Bitcoin
according to our respective finances, because all of us who believe in Bitcoin will definitely get a big profit from Bitcoin. Hopefully more and more people
will become BTC individualists like you.

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May 25, 2021, 10:55:39 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
It should be since on the first time you had stepped your foot into this market on where you shouldnt rely any sentiments out of those popular person who had just stepped in also into this market which is
obviously been here also for the sake of profits and since they are financially capable which means they can really manipulate out the market basing off with those sentiment.
Its not bad to get along with those calls if you are just wise enough or somewhat good when it comes to gut calls because putting up analysis on this
is somewhat not that really effective but well its vary on you.
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May 25, 2021, 10:59:26 PM
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After all of these things, had someone realize that these people are like a parasite in crypto. They don't do any help in crypto but they fooled innocent people and get their money. Such manipulating ideas has to stop and the fact that nobody got the interest listening to them, then we can say that we won.

These people give us some hints not to trust strangers rather than to trust ourselves. In fact, they don't have knowledge about crypto and there is no reason why we have to trust and believe them in the first place.

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May 25, 2021, 11:19:33 PM
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It is really how things are supposedly be done deciding and doing movement with your Bitcoin on your own. There is nothing wrong on idolizing famous personalities and their stands with regards to Bitcoin but you must think on your own not to get easily lured or affected of whatever they say for you are the ones who will benefit or suffer based on the actions you will do with it. You must be open into the idea that they were just there to talk but the final decision relies on you.

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May 25, 2021, 11:46:50 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
I tend to agree with this idea, it seems they are using people who followed them for their own benefits and it's clear they are manipulating the market using their own power of being mass influencers.  It might good for us if we stop following them, they can create FUD that might trigger people to become a panic seller and might bought again when the price is dropped.

However, we couldn't blame them, they are a businessman, an entrepreneur, a very clever when it comes to their wealth growth.  So, avoiding them is a good choice here not to manipulate again the crypto market price.

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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

In my opinion, this is the best decision you can make and follow.

In any case, everyone should be responsible for it's own actions and when something does not turn out the way he wanted, not to blame someone else but to learn from the decisions made and to make sure that he does not repeat his mistakes.

So I hope following your intuition and knowledge one day you will have the desired results Smiley Smiley
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say

you may not care but most people do, see:



Source: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1396914548167233537

after that the cryptocurrency market started to calm down and recover

I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

but they have the power to manipulate the market, you will not be able to hide in a shell and think that it will not affect you

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground;

I sold things I had and bought bitcoin, then sell more things and bought bitcoin, I hope I can make big profits

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May 26, 2021, 02:03:53 PM
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It is really how things are supposedly be done deciding and doing movement with your Bitcoin on your own. There is nothing wrong on idolizing famous personalities and their stands with regards to Bitcoin but you must think on your own not to get easily lured or affected of whatever they say for you are the ones who will benefit or suffer based on the actions you will do with it. You must be open into the idea that they were just there to talk but the final decision relies on you.
It's hard to do when you are all alone, remember that people who speaks alone are always called crazy, unless their words make sense and that other people believe those words. Also, some might think that thinking for yourself is easy when in reality it is a difficult thing to do because you always factor in the people around you.

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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say

you may not care but most people do, see:



Source: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1396914548167233537

after that the cryptocurrency market started to calm down and recover

I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

but they have the power to manipulate the market, you will not be able to hide in a shell and think that it will not affect you

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground;

I sold things I had and bought bitcoin, then sell more things and bought bitcoin, I hope I can make big profits
Geez, Elon can do many things just to make the market calm down and not going wild. It seems, that tweets make the price now getting sideways for a while which is good for us because the altcoin can start to increase.

We can get the effect from the market, but as long as we can calm down and not panic, we will see what we should do, even if they have the power to manipulate the market. We can follow their step and make a profit like them, maybe we go to where the water flows so we can use the moment for our benefit.

I am sure we have our chances to make a big profit in the future, especially if we can work hard from now.

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May 27, 2021, 06:33:32 AM
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Like a lot of people here, I am a Bitcoin maximalist, I cant listen to people who are negative
towards Bitcoin. As regards EM, I dont follow him and wouldnt be aware of his tweets.

MS is a different matter for me, I actually like what he has done for the community, i.e raised
awareness and opened peoples minds to what Bitcoin can do, something nobody has done
successfully to date IMO.

What he talks about is primarily geared towards big investors but he has also mentioned
that everyone can benefit.

Now I have cancelled my notifications from Twitter and visit the space about once per week.

Elon Musk is a volatile entity
Michael Saylor is a super positive entity

There is a difference and I dont really care what both say I will still carry on Bitcoining.

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May 29, 2021, 12:34:34 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

If that's your way of thinking then you've probably got a diamond hand right now but I do hope that majority of BTC holders will have the same mentality as yours. However, we're talking about investment and money right now so most people can't afford to sit down and do nothing about it.

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Buy the fear and sell the greed. That's gonna be our priority now hence everyone are in fear of bitcoin's price down trend and that's the great opportunity for people believed in the great significance of bitcoin in the future. This is only temporary and soon enough bitcoin will rise up and leaving weak hands all along.

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May 29, 2021, 01:04:35 PM
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No one takes Musk seriously, he's a joke, an autistic Thomas Edison

He bought into paypal
He bought into Tesla
He bought into SpaceX

He creates nothing, he invests

Guess what Edison didn't invent the light bulb, guess what without Tesla we would not have the modern world

For years the autistic had nothing to say about crypto other than someone gave him half a bitcoin years ago as a joke and it gained value

Now he's the messiah of crypto

BULLSHIT

Mars has a dead core and can't restart so forget mars

We need serious research into FTSOL drives for real space travel to get off this prison rock


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The thing is some newcomers to the network believe this prominent individuals or so called experts have one form of control or the other on the network, they fail to understand that it's they who are swayed by tweets or talks from others that are being controlled and not the network. I've said this is a couple of times that quite a lot of people investing in Dogecoin at the moment are doing so only cause of Elon and his effusive endorsement of Doge, and not cause they believe in the system. Bitcoin is a "be your own bank" coin, thus users should decide on their affairs after they have done their own research.

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May 29, 2021, 01:20:38 PM
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No one takes Musk seriously, he's a joke, an autistic Thomas Edison

He bought into paypal
He bought into Tesla
He bought into SpaceX

He creates nothing, he invests
^ He is just a businessman or a professional one, he wants more money on the crypto and probably he planned this long before and since he is the very influential person he will probably think that it is very easy to take money on crypto. He has manipulated the market through his tweet and we witness the movement of the crypto market causing him. So for now, we should not listen to him or much better ignore him. People should be learned of what he had done to us, it triggered FUD that until now people still in panic mode even though we have heard recently about new institutional investors.
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May 29, 2021, 01:32:06 PM
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Haters will still be mad even if bitcoin is one the 7 digits league and we are up there sipping and laughing at them. This is a good mindset to be in, not being affected by the external factors and just unadulterated belief in the power of the market.
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May 29, 2021, 01:41:06 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

It's about time. I wish I'd see many more think like this instead of baaaa-ing after each tweet of these "personalities" for which the followers are only some numbers for their pride.

Hoping that this will become a wake up call for those investors who only make a move and rely on big investors.

There are a lot of other options where you can make your investment profitable not only by fundamental analysis and hypes in the social media.

Self-growth in terms of crypto investment is really necessary especially that market is volatile and don't trust anyone but yourself.

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Haters will still be mad even if bitcoin is one the 7 digits league and we are up there sipping and laughing at them. This is a good mindset to be in, not being affected by the external factors and just unadulterated belief in the power of the market.

I guess it all has something to do with the right mindset. In business, as well as in any other field, the most important factor is loyalty. You need to be loyal to your chosen passion. And our chosen passion is Bitcoin. We are not being affected by any ramblings or any admirations from any personality, billionaire or celebrity. Now this needs a massive control of our emotions. But also you can do what others do. Buy and forget, get back to it after a few years.

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May 30, 2021, 07:25:41 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

It's about time. I wish I'd see many more think like this instead of baaaa-ing after each tweet of these "personalities" for which the followers are only some numbers for their pride.

Hoping that this will become a wake up call for those investors who only make a move and rely on big investors.

There are a lot of other options where you can make your investment profitable not only by fundamental analysis and hypes in the social media.

Self-growth in terms of crypto investment is really necessary especially that market is volatile and don't trust anyone but yourself.
It's really a must that you have to build your self worth so you can work things on your own and not just rely on big investors to make your investments hype.

Your decision OP should be the right mindset of all investors and the bitcoin community itself. Let them play with crypto and make profits until they want to. We should not be affected with them. We have our own game so we should focus on our own and play it right in order to make our investments grow even more.

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May 31, 2021, 06:04:42 AM
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The purpose of most people investing in Bitcoin is to make a profit, which does not need to be argued at all. All discussions of thought and cognition must be based on having enough wealth. If what to eat tomorrow is an obstacle to your life, it is ridiculous that you are studying how to achieve decentralization. For myself, I admire Satoshi Nakamoto and the Bitcoin system he invented. I am willing to help Bitcoin propaganda and evangelism, but the premise is that I already have enough wealth through cryptocurrency
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June 09, 2021, 05:55:27 AM
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But the irony is that crypto market is taking Musk tweets very serious and if it continuous I fear that such individuals will overpower the crypto community which has kept btc alive for over a decade now.
I have trust in bitcoin and I want bitcoin not to break this trust by following what musk and others are saying.
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June 09, 2021, 06:05:08 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say

you may not care but most people do, see:



Source: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1396914548167233537

after that the cryptocurrency market started to calm down and recover

I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

but they have the power to manipulate the market, you will not be able to hide in a shell and think that it will not affect you

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground;

I sold things I had and bought bitcoin, then sell more things and bought bitcoin, I hope I can make big profits
Every comment there might not be for support of what Elon musk is doing. We all know that, that guy is trying too hard to make himself some sort of cryptocurrency influencer just because some tweets have made some impact on the market trend in the recent past but that like then OP mentioned, I too believe will fade away soon where his tweets will no longer have the kind of initial effect.
I believe there's a lot better way he would have done it and have the whole backing of the crypto community instead of how it went.


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June 09, 2021, 06:15:52 AM
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But the irony is that crypto market is taking Musk tweets very serious and if it continuous I fear that such individuals will overpower the crypto community which has kept btc alive for over a decade now.
I have trust in bitcoin and I want bitcoin not to break this trust by following what musk and others are saying.
ironically, there are still many out there who use Elon's words as a reference for their investment...

We have a strong community here so it won't be affected by their rich sayings, but the outside world is different, they have no standards and it is difficult to determine which one to choose. poor them.



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June 09, 2021, 06:25:28 AM
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But the irony is that crypto market is taking Musk tweets very serious and if it continuous I fear that such individuals will overpower the crypto community which has kept btc alive for over a decade now.
I have trust in bitcoin and I want bitcoin not to break this trust by following what musk and others are saying.

No one takes him seriously now.He had that kind of power only when he refused to accept Bitcoin payments for his Tesla cars.Now that the market has digested it we are seeing a stable Bitcoin price at over 30K which is really good.The future of Bitcoin is only bright and the winners will be those who stick with it.There will be many other up and downs and bad actors during this history but the conclusion will be that Bitcoin will prevail no matter what.

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June 09, 2021, 07:07:45 AM
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Actually if we will not believe on them perhaps the whole market now is still fine and there's no such massive decline in the market, but unfortunately that's how it works right now wherein people always follow what's is trending in social media just to prevent losses and especially to gain massive profits at the same time when there's a good news. for short we're already controlled by the whales ..

Because not the same before that there's a limitation during the downtrend, what mean when there's a manipulation and it reached the support level it will not go further.. But now see what's the difference? sad to say it seemed most of us really don't knows what's the strong support in the market on this current situation because of that reasons..
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June 09, 2021, 07:45:59 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

I know what you mean about the "basic human dreams" thing. Man, I would love to own a house and not work bullshit 12-hour night shifts.

C'mon BTC, show me some love!
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June 09, 2021, 08:08:12 AM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
This is what we must do, lets separate our investing and funds to what news and social media tells us .

I hate when people are making fun of the situation and telling people even lies just to make it looks real but the truth they are faking us.
This is what it should be, we should not listen for the things that Elon Musk or Saylor is saying, they are making things complicated in the world of cryptocurrency. You should do whatever you want in crypto, do base on what knowledge you have and not just only relying on the tweets from those people, they wouldn't help you, they know nothing about cryptocurrency, they just doing what they want to do and what gives them benefit.
better banned or blocked them in our social media account and also blocked those people who posts names from these people .

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I guess it all has something to do with the right mindset. In business, as well as in any other field, the most important factor is loyalty. You need to be loyal to your chosen passion. And our chosen passion is Bitcoin. We are not being affected by any ramblings or any admirations from any personality, billionaire or celebrity. Now this needs a massive control of our emotions. But also you can do what others do. Buy and forget, get back to it after a few years.
Loyalty only works for customers and not the other way around, what's important to a businessman is the interest that they have, if it can further or protect their interest then they will support it but if not then they will just throw it away like a discarded toy, the reason that it looks like loyalty is because they have their interests in line and they seem to have more benefits sticking to it rather than abandoning it.
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August 16, 2021, 01:57:57 PM
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you can be a bitcoin motivator, to people who still believe in Elon and Saylor,
I personally was fed up with Elon's tweets so I stopped following him, with his tweets sometimes making me sleep uneasy, afraid that if I woke up the next day BTC had reached 25k$ again, and I believe that bitcoin will reach $ 1xxx.xxx in the future
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August 16, 2021, 02:03:45 PM
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you can be a bitcoin motivator, to people who still believe in Elon and Saylor,
I personally was fed up with Elon's tweets so I stopped following him, with his tweets sometimes making me sleep uneasy, afraid that if I woke up the next day BTC had reached 25k$ again, and I believe that bitcoin will reach $ 1xxx.xxx in the future

I think it's too emotional about your own decision. You may not believe in Saylor's tweets and Ulon Musk's tweets, but out there still believe in Ulon Musk's tweets about 60%, so that 60% will affect the movement of bitcoin. people who are able to analyze every rumor of course they will take advantage of that part, even if the profit is not much.

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you can be a bitcoin motivator, to people who still believe in Elon and Saylor,
I personally was fed up with Elon's tweets so I stopped following him, with his tweets sometimes making me sleep uneasy, afraid that if I woke up the next day BTC had reached 25k$ again, and I believe that bitcoin will reach $ 1xxx.xxx in the future
Everyone is done with Elon's drama, he's such a drama king and it is better if he doesn't talk a lot during this rise. Because anything that he say about negative towards bitcoin, we'll see those fan of his that will plunge the market and do panic selling. But even if he and they do that, we're used to see the market recovery most of the time and it happens very quick. The thing is that, even if we're used to it, we are also getting tired with those.

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August 16, 2021, 03:28:25 PM
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yes, you are very much like me, me too, i don't care what anyone says and does because i always keep individualist and always believe that BTC will hit 100k$. Always believe in your own guess my friend.

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August 16, 2021, 03:31:34 PM
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Why people even cares about Elon in crypto? He is not a developer even
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August 16, 2021, 03:41:04 PM
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You do have freedom anyways, don't fall for the sweet words of these influencers, you always have your freedom to decide and choose on what actions you'll do with your bitcoins, and I'm glad you've realized thst my guy, there are diehard Elon Musk fans out there who were literally no brainers but will follow whatever Musk says or tweets, I have no hate against Elon and I support his projects, but the way his followers act towards him and the market is just really weird, not generalizing all of his followers, just to be clear.
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August 16, 2021, 03:45:36 PM
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Why people even cares about Elon in crypto? He is not a developer even
Because he has influence and influence can move markets, remember when he said that bitcoin is bad for the environment or something like that? The prices plummeted at that time because he tweeted about it. That's why people still care about Elon and the likes, their influence can affect their profits in the future.
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August 16, 2021, 03:49:36 PM
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you can be a bitcoin motivator, to people who still believe in Elon and Saylor,
I personally was fed up with Elon's tweets so I stopped following him, with his tweets sometimes making me sleep uneasy, afraid that if I woke up the next day BTC had reached 25k$ again, and I believe that bitcoin will reach $ 1xxx.xxx in the future
Everyone is done with Elon's drama, he's such a drama king and it is better if he doesn't talk a lot during this rise. Because anything that he say about negative towards bitcoin, we'll see those fan of his that will plunge the market and do panic selling. But even if he and they do that, we're used to see the market recovery most of the time and it happens very quick. The thing is that, even if we're used to it, we are also getting tired with those.

I hope for next season, the investor of Crypto has a mentality like you who don't care with Whale's said. We have faced a long-run bearish market which cut 50% of the upper price. This is a recovery time that has been waited for everyone who is an enthusiast with crypto assets. The market cap of crypto has grown up since the positive vibes in the market and We know each other at this moment will be a sensitive time for Whale's issue, if Elon tweets such a shit thing, are we ready for that too?
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August 16, 2021, 03:59:31 PM
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Well we shouldn't care about them too in the first place. I mean, it's okay to listen to what they said, but take it with a grain of salt. Don't believe everything they said, because in the end people have their own interest. Who knows if they're lying or manipulating? We should learn and believe what we believe. Don't get swayed easily. If we know we can gain profits from bitcoin but they said no, why listen to them? listen to ourselves so we don't feel regret later on.

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August 17, 2021, 07:05:52 AM
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Every one of us should be like this. The investment status can be adjusted according to what he said. But don't believe any words.
Musk still has some followers, and his words will still change for the market.
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August 17, 2021, 10:19:30 AM
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you can be a bitcoin motivator, to people who still believe in Elon and Saylor,
I personally was fed up with Elon's tweets so I stopped following him, with his tweets sometimes making me sleep uneasy, afraid that if I woke up the next day BTC had reached 25k$ again, and I believe that bitcoin will reach $ 1xxx.xxx in the future
Everyone is done with Elon's drama, he's such a drama king and it is better if he doesn't talk a lot during this rise. Because anything that he say about negative towards bitcoin, we'll see those fan of his that will plunge the market and do panic selling. But even if he and they do that, we're used to see the market recovery most of the time and it happens very quick. The thing is that, even if we're used to it, we are also getting tired with those.

I hope for next season, the investor of Crypto has a mentality like you who don't care with Whale's said. We have faced a long-run bearish market which cut 50% of the upper price. This is a recovery time that has been waited for everyone who is an enthusiast with crypto assets. The market cap of crypto has grown up since the positive vibes in the market and We know each other at this moment will be a sensitive time for Whale's issue, if Elon tweets such a shit thing, are we ready for that too?
Honestly, you'll see many in the forum that doesn't care anymore about what the whales say. Just like them, they're minding their own business and so do we. It's important to note that our hands don't being held by them. We can have our own actions towards their manipulation or whatever they say with the market. Even if they are bitcoin maximalist, well, that's the good side though but it is still your decision whether you'll follow what they say as it's also being contained by the media to create hype or make hay.

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August 17, 2021, 08:53:57 PM
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Well we shouldn't care about them too in the first place. I mean, it's okay to listen to what they said, but take it with a grain of salt. Don't believe everything they said, because in the end people have their own interest. Who knows if they're lying or manipulating? We should learn and believe what we believe. Don't get swayed easily. If we know we can gain profits from bitcoin but they said no, why listen to them? listen to ourselves so we don't feel regret later on.
wise advice, influencers do seem to try to manipulate. just look at some of Musk's tweets that seem inconsistent, sometimes support bitcoin, then a few days later reject it, you will know what I mean about bitcoin acceptance and mining which is less environmentally friendly.
those who have a large following, their influence is strong enough to make waves in the market, but trust me it won't last long. we must have strong principles. Taking advantage of moments like that is indeed quite good, but if you lack experience and the timing is not right, you can miss the train.

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August 17, 2021, 08:58:16 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
Listening up on those words that do came from those so-called popular person is never been ideal or good to rely upon.Its not bad to make out some presumptions but believing on it 100% is bullshit.

We have experienced lots of similar scenario or circumstances on where we do end up on being manipulated and ending up on getting caught on the dump and we had learned enough.

As we do gain experience into this market then it is one of the things that we would eventually learn up on the process which would really be helpful into your future endeavor on this market.

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August 17, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.
Listening up on those words that do came from those so-called popular person is never been ideal or good to rely upon.Its not bad to make out some presumptions but believing on it 100% is bullshit.

We have experienced lots of similar scenario or circumstances on where we do end up on being manipulated and ending up on getting caught on the dump and we had learned enough.

As we do gain experience into this market then it is one of the things that we would eventually learn up on the process which would really be helpful into your future endeavor on this market.
If you believe in yourself, then you should not be troubled with how other people sees on your investment. The fact that you know exactly what you're doing, gives you more security that you will always be on the right track.

Elon Musk and Saylor have their own intentions why they are doing this so let's just ignore them. They are just here for their selfish gains and have nothing to do with us. If we can be more wise in dealing with our investments, then it has nothing to worry about.

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August 17, 2021, 09:54:36 PM
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Elon Musk and Saylor have their own intentions why they are doing this so let's just ignore them. They are just here for their selfish gains and have nothing to do with us. If we can be more wise in dealing with our investments, then it has nothing to worry about.
Well for those who know them are usually now put it in ignore list. They are here in the market just manipulating at all times, people now learn top much from them that they are only manipulating the market, we really don't need them, they used us before for their own benefit and now you will let it again that will happen? It is a no for me. We don't need those big whale investors because when they sell their coin it really had a huge impact on the market, that is why we always experienced high fluctuation.









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August 17, 2021, 11:52:37 PM
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I don't think there's a reason for me to worry about who made the announcement about Bitcoin.There are various announcements about Bitcoin all the time. I will not leave my bitcoin on top of anyone's announcement. I want to make my way to my cryptocurrency with what I understand.
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August 18, 2021, 12:15:11 AM
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That is the best to do. Don't use these guys' words as reference for anything. If they crash the market, it's good for them of course, but also good for an independent investor who won't panic sell his coins and probably is going to buy more bitcoins, while those who follow the hypes and trends end selling their coins really cheap, just like we have seen during the last months.
Lots of people were talking about bitcoin not being able to recover this year because Musk effect, so they were waiting until december or further to buy again. Now just look what happened. Bitcoin is already rising again and Musk has already changed his opinion once more.

Imagine how the fool who sold his btcs because he believed Elon Musk was going to give up on bitcoin is feeling right now. Tongue

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August 18, 2021, 05:27:54 AM
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I don't think there's a reason for me to worry about who made the announcement about Bitcoin.There are various announcements about Bitcoin all the time. I will not leave my bitcoin on top of anyone's announcement. I want to make my way to my cryptocurrency with what I understand.
Good. That is what we do to our bitcoin. It is better to hold our bitcoin and not listening to Saylor or Musk because they have their reason to spreads the news or tweet. If more people like you, I think the market will not go down if they spreads false news to the public because public will see if they are saying right thing or it just make a noisy at the market.

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August 23, 2021, 08:14:14 AM
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We can't believe Musk and them. But pay attention to check market trends.
Their words are still useful to their supporters.
They should not spread false information now, most people have seen through them.
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Good luck mate. I'm doing the same. I'll hold BTC until at least $100K and then it will help me to make some of my little dreams and needs come true.
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We can't believe Musk and them. But pay attention to check market trends.
Their words are still useful to their supporters.
They should not spread false information now, most people have seen through them.
I'd never think that the people are giving some weight to their tweets about crypto as they are known to be a false source of information. Only their loyal follower will ever trust them but not us who already know their real intention.
What does Elon Musk do before was it means a lot in the crypto journey, creating some hypes and pushes the price to reach a new ATH was absolutely amazing but that was just a dirty tactic as his intention is to manipulate the market and so the minds of the people believing that he was a truly a supporter of Bitcoin. It was done already and I think we are all aware of the situation, and that was enough.



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August 23, 2021, 02:34:57 PM
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Today, unfortunately, the market situation is advancing in such a way that Elon musk tweets have become an important fundamental factor and this has led to the emergence of six coins, but I believe that with increasing public awareness, better fundamental factors will be replaced.
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I'd never think that the people are giving some weight to their tweets about crypto as they are known to be a false source of information. Only their loyal follower will ever trust them but not us who already know their real intention.
What does Elon Musk do before was it means a lot in the crypto journey, creating some hypes and pushes the price to reach a new ATH was absolutely amazing but that was just a dirty tactic as his intention is to manipulate the market and so the minds of the people believing that he was a truly a supporter of Bitcoin. It was done already and I think we are all aware of the situation, and that was enough.

Bitcoin is basically a free economic system, in which all exchanges occur between self-reliant individuals, sovereign persons. When it comes to bitcoin we all become less collectivistic and more individualistic. Everyone acts in his self-interest, you buy something with bitcoin and sell something for bitcoin today because you consider a deal profitable. You tell people bitcoin is the strongest currency ever invented, and therefore holding it is a good idea because you want bitcoin to grow in value. You are acting selfishly, and this is how a free market works. Both Michael Saylor and Elon Musk know exactly what they are doing.

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August 23, 2021, 08:48:51 PM
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I don't care anymore what these guys have to say, I'm becoming a BTC individualist. Their words and actions will have zero effect on me.

I only hope someday BTC will reach the $1xx,xxx zone so I can fulfill some pretty basic human dreams, other than that I know this is the rich man playground; they don't care about us anyway and only want to increase their wealth, they have a huge control even if we like it or not.

Just like many have pointed out, these whale personalities do not in the slightest instance care about the people. Every of the words, whether positive or negative, is only aimed at making money themselves. They don't care about who loses money in the process and it is because they have a lot of followers who are foolish enough to believe them.
It is only when everybody becomes a bitcoin individualist will these whales lose their influence over the people. Until then, however, we actually cannot deny the fact that really do have influence

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