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October 07, 2021, 02:15:35 PM |
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
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October 07, 2021, 03:28:19 PM |
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
You have a point I hope OP is not taking us for a ride, he should provide more details like a screenshot of his winnings and deposit screenshots spreadsheets is easy to create he can put anything on it, if what's on a spreadsheet is real then he should back it with solid proof, I hate it when newbies coming here bragging without showing us proof or details on how he wins and how much he wins.
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October 07, 2021, 04:12:08 PM |
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Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op. To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.
OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance. but when we do as op did, of course this will take quite a long time besides that the capital required will be very large. and not necessarily the results achieved will be the same as what the OP did, because indeed everything comes back to the luck factor too. and there is no guarantee if we do the same thing as op will get the same result anyway. but on the other hand what the OP does deserves to be appreciated because he patiently carries out what he does and of course with very large capital of course.
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RealMalatesta
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October 07, 2021, 04:15:09 PM |
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Only obstacle that you will run into is you will make enemies with books and majority of the books will limit your and shut you down. If you cannot get accounts in pinnacle and betcris/bookmaker you wont be able to get far as million.
So, you made million dollars from sportsbetting, but when I first see your topic, I thought you achieved that big mile stone through dicing or any other chance based gambling. Overall, I guess sportsbetting is something which helps you when you are skilled enough on picking right predictions even we do hear that match fixing are too common these days. I am just curious to know what are your favourite sports and how often you do gamble. I guess these days we are having lots of platforms for sportsbetting hence I believe might get a chance to copy like you. I did not check your sheet due to limitations of bandwidth right now but I guess you must have re-used your profits to increase your bet amount so that you might have been quicker on your race toward millions rather than being sticking with only your original bankroll of $5k.
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October 07, 2021, 04:54:23 PM |
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random.
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October 07, 2021, 08:43:42 PM |
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random. Showing off spreadsheet doesnt automatically counts as a legit one or could be real on what he's trying to prove on about making 5k to million in just 3 years.I agree that spreadsheet wont really be a sufficient proof on this kind of milestone and would much more believable if he could post off on those bet slops or history on the site on which he do play and those history of bets to make it more legit because claiming something like this wont really be that convincing which i do have the same views and perceptions on things too.
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October 07, 2021, 11:50:12 PM |
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
Let the op share what op wants but I agree with you that the spreadsheet can be created unless op provided the real bet details on the site that op used instead of giving the spreadsheet shit. One more thing, it is not just 1 year but 3 years. It's not that simple to do but I can't believe with just the numbers on spreadsheet just as you said it coulr be random. Let's say he really managed to make a million... He can only prove it if he shows us a screenshot of his bet history. I know that also can be forged but it is harder and we can verify this by contacting the casino. If he cannot do that, I say it didn't happen. If I was a I guy that made $1m out of $5k, I also wouldn't create a thread about it in the dark corners of btt. I would just enjoy my retirement.
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October 08, 2021, 12:56:08 AM |
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Let's say he really managed to make a million... He can only prove it if he shows us a screenshot of his bet history. I know that also can be forged but it is harder and we can verify this by contacting the casino. If he cannot do that, I say it didn't happen. If I was a I guy that made $1m out of $5k, I also wouldn't create a thread about it in the dark corners of btt. I would just enjoy my retirement.
Two things he wants to take us for a ride or he wants to inspire us, this is a huge amount we are talking about here in a short span of time, I agree that he should send even small details that he really earned that amount through sports betting, that way people will not think he is making fun of us and just want to inspire us that it's possible, looking forward to those details.
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October 08, 2021, 01:07:33 AM |
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If you can somehow find that many arbitrage opportunities and manage to not get banned, this could be possible.
But even then I find it quite unbelievable that you are able to generate such returns out of a low amount of capital. The limits that you have to find on certain bets is not going to be sufficient to even accomodate for these in the first place once you get up to a certain bankroll.
Newbies who are reading this, don't think that you can achieve these results. You're more likely than not going to lose all of your bankroll.
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October 08, 2021, 04:01:32 AM |
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I posted regarding this before back in 2018. Many said couldn't be done but i followed the methodology and the picks religiously and here we are. Spreadsheet shows all the picks in the log sheet and the dashboard shows the summary. Settings sheet has details on the money management. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15CSvrT3osJos4P-Fni102v5fvZqaqm8Q/edit#gid=644533306 Only obstacle that you will run into is you will make enemies with books and majority of the books will limit your and shut you down. If you cannot get accounts in pinnacle and betcris/bookmaker you wont be able to get far as million. Wait a minute, this may be a bit misleading especially for an inexperienced gambler. This also might spread false information about gambling that it gives false hope and assurance that they will win $1 million dollars in 2000 bets. Remember that there is no absolute rule or formula that can be above the odds. Even if the probability or chances may be leaning on your favor, even if the success rate is 80-99%, there is always that chance that one might fail. Be careful for people who would follow this spreadsheet. Rather than treating it as an absolute rule, use it as a general guide that will support you on your bets. I agree with you in the appreciation, although OP shows the data it is possible that if he has succeeded, but also as his statistics show, it is also likely that he can give us some screenshots to finish believing him, of course this should include dates, earnings and loses. And if it turns out to be so, I would really take off my hat because firstly I would think that he is a very lucky being in the world, he would be practically "blessed" or that perhaps he was born with a special gift, and based on the fact that he is an inexperienced player he could be a prodigy, although to have that success rate is really hard to believe, but since everything in this life is possible, I think that OP should give us more.
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October 08, 2021, 04:26:55 AM |
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I agree with you in the appreciation, although OP shows the data it is possible that if he has succeeded, but also as his statistics show, it is also likely that he can give us some screenshots to finish believing him, of course this should include dates, earnings and loses.
And if it turns out to be so, I would really take off my hat because firstly I would think that he is a very lucky being in the world, he would be practically "blessed" or that perhaps he was born with a special gift, and based on the fact that he is an inexperienced player he could be a prodigy, although to have that success rate is really hard to believe, but since everything in this life is possible, I think that OP should give us more.
People now come to doubt the authenticity of the spreadsheet, without proof to back it up there's a possibility that these spreadsheets are just created to take us for a ride, I hope OP means well and he can back what he posted in his spreadsheets, we don't want transaction blockchain but screenshots of his winnings and dashboard where he won, he can always hide his information to protect his identity.
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Op is the kind of gambler that's very patient and not greedy else he/she might have loss all the total amount he has made in a single game, a living legend is Op. To reach this kind of level, one must be willing to have all experience to deal with emotional and money management skills in handling every ticket.
OP is showing us big figures and it's not easy to reach that figure with that number of bets, before he reached that I'm sure that there's a lot of obstacles before he set up his own strategies, you have a chance in sports betting if you are well organized, good in time and money management, there's a big difference in relying on luck and developing a system and OP has succeeded that luck is on your side if you have perseverance. Following this strategy will take a long time and a lot of capital. If there will be a guarantee of sure profit which is as big as what OP stated, then it will be worth it but if we'll only be getting it by chance then it might be a big loss. I hope he could continue updating regarding strategy for another 3 years if possible. These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate. Yes, he is very lucky to win that money. We do not know how long he played gambling and how much money he used because he only tells about winning. Maybe he modified many strategies to find which strategy that will work for him and luckily, he found that strategy and ended with the victory. I guess he can control himself and not selfishly chase the win money because if he does not do that, he will lose all of his money from a long time ago. One thing about luck is that, it works differently for different people, some people might have their luck in gambling, sports and other forms of betting, while other might have their luck in other stuffs out gambling, one advise is that everyone find where their luck is and focus on that area. OP had this great result because his luck might be in gambling, other persons who's luck isn't in gambling and want to have this kind of result, the end thereof might be futile, this is why I always tell people to avoid doing things just because others did it and succeeded, the road I pass through and succeed, others who want my kind of success might go through that same road and end up in total failure. Congratulations to the op. I agree with that. Maybe luck can come to many people in different places but not in one place. It is up to the luck itself will come to any people who deserve to get the luck. We can not force luck to come to us because we do not know when luck will come. We can just hope that luck will be ours at the right time, but luck will come most of the time without knowing. And many people consider that luck will come by coincidentally. Yes, OP has the great experience winning that much money. But it isn't easy to have the same luck to win the other big money. So the OP can hope that he can repeat it one day and win more money.
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October 08, 2021, 08:59:27 AM |
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I agree with you in the appreciation, although OP shows the data it is possible that if he has succeeded, but also as his statistics show, it is also likely that he can give us some screenshots to finish believing him, of course this should include dates, earnings and loses.
And if it turns out to be so, I would really take off my hat because firstly I would think that he is a very lucky being in the world, he would be practically "blessed" or that perhaps he was born with a special gift, and based on the fact that he is an inexperienced player he could be a prodigy, although to have that success rate is really hard to believe, but since everything in this life is possible, I think that OP should give us more.
People now come to doubt the authenticity of the spreadsheet, without proof to back it up there's a possibility that these spreadsheets are just created to take us for a ride, I hope OP means well and he can back what he posted in his spreadsheets, we don't want transaction blockchain but screenshots of his winnings and dashboard where he won, he can always hide his information to protect his identity. Of course if only displaying a spreadsheet can't be strong evidence that the OP managed to make big profits from gambling. Because we know it's very easy to edit a spreadsheet the way we want, must provide stronger evidence, such as some screenshots of the victory obtained. I say this not out of envy of other people's accomplishments, but it would be great if it presented more convincing evidence. So that people who see it believe more and have no doubts. Honestly I'm a person who doubts gambling can be a source of income, based on my gambling experience, trying various strategies always ends in losses.
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October 08, 2021, 10:01:56 AM |
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I agree with you in the appreciation, although OP shows the data it is possible that if he has succeeded, but also as his statistics show, it is also likely that he can give us some screenshots to finish believing him, of course this should include dates, earnings and loses.
And if it turns out to be so, I would really take off my hat because firstly I would think that he is a very lucky being in the world, he would be practically "blessed" or that perhaps he was born with a special gift, and based on the fact that he is an inexperienced player he could be a prodigy, although to have that success rate is really hard to believe, but since everything in this life is possible, I think that OP should give us more.
People now come to doubt the authenticity of the spreadsheet, without proof to back it up there's a possibility that these spreadsheets are just created to take us for a ride, I hope OP means well and he can back what he posted in his spreadsheets, we don't want transaction blockchain but screenshots of his winnings and dashboard where he won, he can always hide his information to protect his identity. well it doesn't matter if he is saying the truth or not who cares? he only fools Himself if this is not true, we are here to believe in what he says but it does not necessarily mean we are trusting everything he says. we all has our own gambling winning or losing , but we care nothing to put it here because this is our privacy and this is our own rights to protect our gambling activities.
Two things he wants to take us for a ride or he wants to inspire us, this is a huge amount we are talking about here in a short span of time, I agree that he should send even small details that he really earned that amount through sports betting, that way people will not think he is making fun of us and just want to inspire us that it's possible, looking forward to those details.
Let him fool himself if he is not telling the truth , what is the main reason for him to lie? story telling to earn merit? i don't think so.
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October 08, 2021, 04:33:15 PM |
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Yes, anything can happen in gambling, just like a $2 lottery ticket can win millions dollars, so it's possible to win the amount stated on OP. However, reproducibility is an entirely different thing. He can win doesn't mean he can teach or can repeat the winning.
Anyone says they can teach you to magically turn $5,000 into $1,000,000 is going to scam you. Why? Because they will spend their time gambling, not teaching or selling products.
I agree with this statement. Truly, anyone claiming such numbers is really fishing for the weakest of the weakest minds. The chance of making 5k into millions is mathematically extremely low. Also why would anyone trust someone else's claims with such large amounts of money? Im sure the spreadsheet looks nice and everything and may even have robust data but some things are too good to be true. Otherwise everyone would be millionaires... This is why it is highly unlikely this is actually true, if I had a method that could give me those kind of profits while gambling I would not share at all the fact this is even possible, after all someone that is really smart could make an effort to try to reverse engineer the method with all the information that he is giving away, common sense dictates that if someone was actually making that much money then they will remain silent and never tell anyone about it.
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October 08, 2021, 08:42:25 PM |
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These days, sharing strategy isn't really known; they won't share their strategy because they don't want others to win as well. People nowadays (though not all) are selfish, whereas in the past, such a strategy would be shared with others because they cared. But, based on this, I believe it is possible if he is extremely fortunate, but it is mathematically impossible, as most people believe. Nonetheless, I was astounded by it and believe you are extremely fortunate.
You seem to desire his approach so much and to win the same jackpot, which isn't bad at all, but you know gambling sometimes comes with luck, and it happens once in a lifetime, and now that it has visited OP, it's his time to shine and go home with a goody bag. Some gamblers are born to be gamblers, and you may wonder how they manage their winnings and losses. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who thinks this, but gamblers and game fixers rarely disclose their losses, it's just profit on profit, which we all know does not work in reality.
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October 08, 2021, 09:56:13 PM |
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Yes, anything can happen in gambling, just like a $2 lottery ticket can win millions dollars, so it's possible to win the amount stated on OP. However, reproducibility is an entirely different thing. He can win doesn't mean he can teach or can repeat the winning.
Anyone says they can teach you to magically turn $5,000 into $1,000,000 is going to scam you. Why? Because they will spend their time gambling, not teaching or selling products.
I agree with this statement. Truly, anyone claiming such numbers is really fishing for the weakest of the weakest minds. The chance of making 5k into millions is mathematically extremely low. Also why would anyone trust someone else's claims with such large amounts of money? Im sure the spreadsheet looks nice and everything and may even have robust data but some things are too good to be true. Otherwise everyone would be millionaires... This is why it is highly unlikely this is actually true, if I had a method that could give me those kind of profits while gambling I would not share at all the fact this is even possible, after all someone that is really smart could make an effort to try to reverse engineer the method with all the information that he is giving away, common sense dictates that if someone was actually making that much money then they will remain silent and never tell anyone about it. We cant really deny about this one which is indeed a reality for most people wont really be tending on sharing up their winning strategies and also i do agree that posting spreadsheet doesnt mean that this is legit. There's no such thing about winning or constant or assured win strategies because luck would play out a big role whenever you do make out bets.No one would intendly to share up on where he do make money, you would really be thinking that it would really be saturated but well those are just imagination because results would be always random.
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October 08, 2021, 10:45:08 PM |
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Newbies who are reading this, don't think that you can achieve these results. You're more likely than not going to lose all of your bankroll.
I think that there are those that finds it easy if someone did it and managed to earn a million through it. But it's highly unlikely that someone can also do this with that capital. Hard to believe that someone can make it and if it's real then it's real but most likely, many won't be looking at that perspective.
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October 10, 2021, 04:56:44 PM |
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Newbies who are reading this, don't think that you can achieve these results. You're more likely than not going to lose all of your bankroll.
I think that there are those that finds it easy if someone did it and managed to earn a million through it. But it's highly unlikely that someone can also do this with that capital. Hard to believe that someone can make it and if it's real then it's real but most likely, many won't be looking at that perspective. well, on the other hand every pro starts as a newbie just remember to never bet more than you are able to afford to lose and to use good risk management this is something to keep in mind
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I'll call this bull shit.
Is it impossible? No. But it is almost impossible which means it is practically impossible.
Everybody can create an excel sheet and put random winning bets in it. It is not that hard.
Could also call it inevitable depending on one factor which is if the person betting has consistency in their good judgement when betting. If they really have the skills it would mean they certainly compound gains into gigantic amounts, only a few people in a million are capable of such a thing. But if someone has good judgement and doesnt bet it all, regularly takes profits they will get this high. There have been a few famous people who did as much, sometimes they later on lose it all chasing the thrill and taking too much risk but some people have the inside edge in how they bet.
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