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Why do anyone call this Medieval MMA when it has nothing related with mixed martial arts?
Yes, knight fighting can be compared to mixed martial arts in some basic form, but here is what Lukas Kowal, International Medieval Combat Federation gold medallist, says about it [source]: "We have lots of guys who have done Judo or different types of martial arts, so pretty much we would borrow a few things from other disciplines but what I realised – because we had a few MMA fighters coming over to our group – and they were not extremely successful to be honest. Brutality and full contact are similar but gaging the distance changes completely considering you have a weapon, so that was a tricky bit.""What I realised that the guys we had on board who participate MMA were not that great with fighting many people at the same time, they were one person focused and easily blind-sided."
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May 28, 2021, 10:16:17 PM |
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Why do anyone call this Medieval MMA when it has nothing related with mixed martial arts?
Yes, knight fighting can be compared to mixed martial arts in some basic form, but here is what Lukas Kowal, International Medieval Combat Federation gold medallist, says about it [source]: "We have lots of guys who have done Judo or different types of martial arts, so pretty much we would borrow a few things from other disciplines but what I realised – because we had a few MMA fighters coming over to our group – and they were not extremely successful to be honest. Brutality and full contact are similar but gaging the distance changes completely considering you have a weapon, so that was a tricky bit.""What I realised that the guys we had on board who participate MMA were not that great with fighting many people at the same time, they were one person focused and easily blind-sided."This is normal in these types of battles these days. But we have to be realistic, the original battles were not like that. We live a lot in the imaginary that the films show about the mediaeval battles, with the heroes of history making incredible movements. But in reality, battles were not like that. The battles were not "pretty", and the only goal was to literally wipe out the enemy. It was not doing it in a beautiful way, but in a quick and effective way. It was a real horror.
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May 28, 2021, 10:46:14 PM |
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Why do anyone call this Medieval MMA when it has nothing related with mixed martial arts?
Yes, knight fighting can be compared to mixed martial arts in some basic form, but here is what Lukas Kowal, International Medieval Combat Federation gold medallist, says about it [source]: "We have lots of guys who have done Judo or different types of martial arts, so pretty much we would borrow a few things from other disciplines but what I realised – because we had a few MMA fighters coming over to our group – and they were not extremely successful to be honest. Brutality and full contact are similar but gaging the distance changes completely considering you have a weapon, so that was a tricky bit.""What I realised that the guys we had on board who participate MMA were not that great with fighting many people at the same time, they were one person focused and easily blind-sided."This is normal in these types of battles these days. But we have to be realistic, the original battles were not like that. We live a lot in the imaginary that the films show about the mediaeval battles, with the heroes of history making incredible movements. But in reality, battles were not like that. The battles were not "pretty", and the only goal was to literally wipe out the enemy. It was not doing it in a beautiful way, but in a quick and effective way. It was a real horror. LOL! Are you really trying to convince out yourself that real fights would be just similar into those things that we could see in movies?I dont know what youre thinking but with common sense of course real fights would be different and this turns out to be a sport rather than on actual fight where you should be trying to anhilate your opponent. We are on this world where everything could really be possibly be attached into some sport its neither an old or historic gameplays or sports or this one as an example but dont expect that it would really be similar on games.
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May 28, 2021, 10:47:51 PM |
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Why do anyone call this Medieval MMA when it has nothing related with mixed martial arts?
Yes, knight fighting can be compared to mixed martial arts in some basic form, but here is what Lukas Kowal, International Medieval Combat Federation gold medallist, says about it [source]: "We have lots of guys who have done Judo or different types of martial arts, so pretty much we would borrow a few things from other disciplines but what I realised – because we had a few MMA fighters coming over to our group – and they were not extremely successful to be honest. Brutality and full contact are similar but gaging the distance changes completely considering you have a weapon, so that was a tricky bit.""What I realised that the guys we had on board who participate MMA were not that great with fighting many people at the same time, they were one person focused and easily blind-sided."This is normal in these types of battles these days. But we have to be realistic, the original battles were not like that. We live a lot in the imaginary that the films show about the mediaeval battles, with the heroes of history making incredible movements. But in reality, battles were not like that. The battles were not "pretty", and the only goal was to literally wipe out the enemy. It was not doing it in a beautiful way, but in a quick and effective way. It was a real horror. Very true. As long as you wipe out your enemy, in any possible way, you will do it. You don't have to follow any art of killing to do the job. But of course, when it comes to sports, there will be rules to follow just like any other sports. And I believe this Medieval MMA is really not that popular sports to bet on. And right now, I don't think they are holding this kind of fight especially we are still in pandemic. Never encounter a crypto sportsbook that list medieval MMA as well.
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May 28, 2021, 11:03:07 PM |
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LOL! Are you really trying to convince out yourself that real fights would be just similar into those things that we could see in movies?I dont know what youre thinking but with common sense of course real fights would be different and this turns out to be a sport rather than on actual fight where you should be trying to anhilate your opponent. We are on this world where everything could really be possibly be attached into some sport its neither an old or historic gameplays or sports or this one as an example but dont expect that it would really be similar on games.
No! What I meant is that one cannot, in a way, compare the recreational / sports battles, the battles that occurred in the mediaval era.
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May 28, 2021, 11:47:54 PM |
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Probably most people don't know a championship where players team up wearing medieval armors and wielding real weapons like swords, axes and halberds to fight against another teams exist nowadays, but it does. The event exists since 2013 and already counts with the participation of 26 nations which send a team of your own to the competition. Each year the championship is executed in a different country and there is already an International Federation responsible for it ( International Medieval Combat Federation) There are different categories of fights: 1 vs 1, 5 vs 5, 21 vs 21 and I saw there is even 150 vs 150, which rely in different attributes like resistance, strength, strategy, leadership and so on. The rules are simple: if the player goes down he is out of the game. The team which manages to knock down the whole opponent team is the winner. Like in any sports it's possible to see some nations are superior to anothers, what would give the chance to the sport's fans to earn some money by predicting the correct results. Would you have interest in betting in a sport like this and promoting it, so it could become more popular until being included in gambling's platforms? In fact I knew that something like this existed and I remember watching it some years ago, however I do not think right now there is a lot of interest for casinos to add this competition so you can bet on it, however if it becomes more popular this could be the case, but at the same time I cannot stop thinking that despite the armor they are wearing this is very dangerous and maybe at some point in the future the sport may be even forbidden as they are using weapons that could even kill despite the armor they have in place. Even if it's dangerous and forbidden in several countries, it won't prevent offshore sportsbooks to offer betting markets on it. UFC MMA fights were also dangerous and prohibited in many countries some years ago, but sportsbooks didn't care about that and was offering bets on it anywhere. Recently I've seen that 1xbet was sponsoring bare-knuckle fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nw-rhhPVYw
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May 29, 2021, 03:43:01 AM |
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Even if it's dangerous and forbidden in several countries, it won't prevent offshore sportsbooks to offer betting markets on it. UFC MMA fights were also dangerous and prohibited in many countries some years ago, but sportsbooks didn't care about that and was offering bets on it anywhere. Recently I've seen that 1xbet was sponsoring bare-knuckle fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nw-rhhPVYwGamblers are gamblers they will on anything that they know will yield them profit, and sports like bare-knuckle and medieval MMA, they also experiment on various sorting bets thinking that they have a good chance of winning to these kinds of sporting events.
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Probably most people don't know a championship where players team up wearing medieval armors and wielding real weapons like swords, axes and halberds to fight against another teams exist nowadays, but it does. The event exists since 2013 and already counts with the participation of 26 nations which send a team of your own to the competition. Each year the championship is executed in a different country and there is already an International Federation responsible for it ( International Medieval Combat Federation) There are different categories of fights: 1 vs 1, 5 vs 5, 21 vs 21 and I saw there is even 150 vs 150, which rely in different attributes like resistance, strength, strategy, leadership and so on. The rules are simple: if the player goes down he is out of the game. The team which manages to knock down the whole opponent team is the winner. Like in any sports it's possible to see some nations are superior to anothers, what would give the chance to the sport's fans to earn some money by predicting the correct results. Would you have interest in betting in a sport like this and promoting it, so it could become more popular until being included in gambling's platforms? It's great to discover these quirky new sports and they must be great fun to watch live. That being said they are stuck in the realms of entertainment and wisely avoided by any reputable gambling institution, because they are simply too vulnerable to "match fixing". The biggest sports around the world that have betting allowed are generally watched by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, so suspicious behavior is likely to be picked up and investigated more thoroughly. It is likely that these amateur contests are watched by a few thousand people at most, if one of the contestants were to figure out that betting was available they could take an intentional loss in order to make a large amount of money from bookmakers.
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Wait !!! Is there any casualties in this kind of Game? is this consider as sports? sorry but i just watched this in movies like Gladiators and something similar.
And about betting ? if this is a tragic game then i might say "Pass"
i don't want to partake in any games/sports that intentionally hit and hurt people .
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May 29, 2021, 10:05:41 AM |
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LOL! Are you really trying to convince out yourself that real fights would be just similar into those things that we could see in movies?I dont know what youre thinking but with common sense of course real fights would be different and this turns out to be a sport rather than on actual fight where you should be trying to anhilate your opponent. We are on this world where everything could really be possibly be attached into some sport its neither an old or historic gameplays or sports or this one as an example but dont expect that it would really be similar on games.
No! What I meant is that one cannot, in a way, compare the recreational / sports battles, the battles that occurred in the mediaval era. I don't think this is entirely accurate. According to Wikipedia, rules for competitions draw closely on original medieval texts outlining sport (i.e. non-lethal) tournament combat, such as King René's Tournament Book from 1460. Thus, not only armor and weapons have been replicated from historical originals, but the rules of combat as well.
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May 29, 2021, 11:00:33 AM |
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Probably most people don't know a championship where players team up wearing medieval armors and wielding real weapons like swords, axes and halberds to fight against another teams exist nowadays, but it does. The event exists since 2013 and already counts with the participation of 26 nations which send a team of your own to the competition. Each year the championship is executed in a different country and there is already an International Federation responsible for it ( International Medieval Combat Federation) There are different categories of fights: 1 vs 1, 5 vs 5, 21 vs 21 and I saw there is even 150 vs 150, which rely in different attributes like resistance, strength, strategy, leadership and so on. The rules are simple: if the player goes down he is out of the game. The team which manages to knock down the whole opponent team is the winner. Like in any sports it's possible to see some nations are superior to anothers, what would give the chance to the sport's fans to earn some money by predicting the correct results. Would you have interest in betting in a sport like this and promoting it, so it could become more popular until being included in gambling's platforms? Official Site
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150 looks like really hard to predict who will win .
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I have heard about Medieval MMA a few years ago and I have watched some of the Battle of Nations matches. I would say I am intrigued and entertained at the same time. Imagine this is the closest that you can simulate how a battle was fought in the middle ages. I bet you must be athletic at the same time have a big body build that can carry heavy weapons like longswords and heave pikes. As for the betting of course, I might consider participating as long as the betting platform is trustworthy.
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May 29, 2021, 01:27:54 PM |
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This looks awesome, we have two small castles near my home town, where once a year is a week of medieval markets and including some fighting. This was before corona, so hopefully next year this will be happening. There is one blacksmith I have known for many years now, he makes the swords and chain mail and other amor. He told me that while the fighting looks very brutal that it is not real. It is similar to WWE which is more of a show than a actual fight. At first I was a bit surprised because it looked so real. No idea if it is in other regions the same, but if it was real I would bet on it.
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May 29, 2021, 02:49:31 PM |
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Sure. This sport (or performance) is still very far from the professional level, where all issues will be strictly regulated and the level of the participants will guarantee the fairness of the game and some stability of the results. At the moment, bets on this sport can only be made for the sake of entertainment and only of a small size.
Would only just small size because this thing isnt really popular but seeing these start up then it might potentially become big later on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGlDFrrZFrEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCQ2pBob5QLooking or watching these fights are really that entertaining for me.I dont know for most people though. This sport has chances if the problem of its injury risk is somehow solved. On the one hand, I want to see uncompromising fights, but on the other hand, I want the athletes to stay alive and well after the fights. I have no idea how to achieve this without losing the realism of the battles.
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May 29, 2021, 03:19:28 PM |
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Wait !!! Is there any casualties in this kind of Game? is this consider as sports? sorry but i just watched this in movies like Gladiators and something similar. It looks like a fancy game rather than a brutal encounter and they are recreating the old heritage of warriors they had as part of a homage and other than that there is no way they are going to hurt anyone for real, i have seen similar fun games in the past and all they care about is wearing the exact uniform of the medieval warriors and partake in this fun festival.
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May 29, 2021, 03:24:01 PM |
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It looks like a fancy game rather than a brutal encounter and they are recreating the old heritage of warriors they had as part of a homage and other than that there is no way they are going to hurt anyone for real, i have seen similar fun games in the past and all they care about is wearing the exact uniform of the medieval warriors and partake in this fun festival.
If this is a fancy game, there's a possibility that the fight is staged and the outcome is already predictable, not something that you want to bet, this is a new game and the bettors should understand first all about the game before they can make a bet, I don't think the majority of gamblers will support this.
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May 29, 2021, 08:02:24 PM |
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I would not, and I do not think it makes sense.
I never participated but for sure I have seen on tv and on documentaries and the problem with this type of fights is they is a big risk of people throwing the match.
Nobody plays very seriously to not get injured and most people are just there for fun and there are no big rules (you get hit you must fall down).
Sure. This sport (or performance) is still very far from the professional level, where all issues will be strictly regulated and the level of the participants will guarantee the fairness of the game and some stability of the results. At the moment, bets on this sport can only be made for the sake of entertainment and only of a small size. This is what I mean I guess. There is no proper regulation. And how can you play fair when most of the contestants are just there for fun? If you want fair contests with real competitive measures, there are people using real weapons, should we ask them to then start attacking each other for real and get injuries for it to be "real"? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 29, 2021, 08:25:47 PM |
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Sure. This sport (or performance) is still very far from the professional level, where all issues will be strictly regulated and the level of the participants will guarantee the fairness of the game and some stability of the results. At the moment, bets on this sport can only be made for the sake of entertainment and only of a small size.
This is what I mean I guess. There is no proper regulation. And how can you play fair when most of the contestants are just there for fun? If you want fair contests with real competitive measures, there are people using real weapons, should we ask them to then start attacking each other for real and get injuries for it to be "real"? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Of course not, since it will be immediately banned in all countries) I think it can become real when technological progress allows people to immerse themselves in virtual reality and control a robot (or a biological body specially grown for this). Then we will be able to see real battles up to the complete destruction of one of the fighters. It sounds fantastic, but who knows how quickly such opportunities will appear.
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May 29, 2021, 09:15:55 PM |
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Wait !!! Is there any casualties in this kind of Game? is this consider as sports? sorry but i just watched this in movies like Gladiators and something similar. It looks like a fancy game rather than a brutal encounter and they are recreating the old heritage of warriors they had as part of a homage and other than that there is no way they are going to hurt anyone for real, i have seen similar fun games in the past and all they care about is wearing the exact uniform of the medieval warriors and partake in this fun festival. Injuries may occur since its normal on a sports but this one looks safe if you just read the whole details on this medieval matches and many countries are already a member. This is my first time to see this one and I don’t know if I’m going to place my bet right away, I still need to look for countries who are performing well over the past years. They are using a good armor and a fake sword of course because they consider this as a sport, so that’s why they have to make sure that there’ll be no serious injuries and have to make sure the safety of every player. Its good to see an old way of fighting considering their suit, and the history behind this fight. I’m also willing to bet on this kind of sports, this one looks a well organized sports with a member of different countries, is there any crypto site already available to place a bet?
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May 30, 2021, 06:09:38 PM |
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Of course not, since it will be immediately banned in all countries) I think it can become real when technological progress allows people to immerse themselves in virtual reality and control a robot (or a biological body specially grown for this). Then we will be able to see real battles up to the complete destruction of one of the fighters. It sounds fantastic, but who knows how quickly such opportunities will appear.
I do not think all countries will ban it we are talking about Medieval MMA so this is only in Europe I would say and maybe in USA and Canada, where trust me they will allow this kind of games as they allow all other kinds of. But yes a real destruction and damage with nothing held back that would be SO awesome.
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