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May 28, 2021, 08:40:38 PM
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Recently three of my posts were deleted and when i checked, i found that it was deleted from this self moderated thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3623567.msg36606517#msg36606517). I have archived screenshot it too.



Its seems that the starter of the topic has deleted 454 posts in that thread. Its an old thread started in 2018 and i think this is unfair to delete all the posts in that topic.


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May 28, 2021, 08:46:58 PM
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Moderators are not concerned about this, it is the person that created the thread that deleted all the posts there. It is better not to post in a self-moderated thread created by a newbie. At least, let the person that created self-moderated thread to be a reputed member before you post under such thread.

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May 28, 2021, 08:48:29 PM
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You've been a member here for over three years, so you should know all about this stuff.  If you don't want your posts deleted by an individual, don't post in a self-moderated thread.  Of course the thread starter of a self-modded thread can delete your posts; that's the whole point of being able to moderate your own threads.

Why are you so concerned about your post count anyway?

Its an old thread started in 2018 and i think this is unfair to delete all the posts in that topic.
Life isn't fair--strap on a helmet and don't go outside.  But again I'll say: it's the prerogative of the thread starter to delete any posts he wants.  If you didn't want your posts deleted you shouldn't have posted in his thread.

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May 28, 2021, 08:54:28 PM
Last edit: May 29, 2021, 08:33:48 AM by jackg
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Yeah the thread has a disclaimer at the top. You could've made a separate thread quoting the op or just not post in self mod threads.

Members do this sometimes and the forum doesn't want to moderate how self modded threads are moderated (unless it breaks some sort of rule forum wide or one personal to that mod/board).

There's still the archives too you can use to find replies that were on the topic by checking (eg archive.org takes frequent snapshots of the forum - or used to at least).
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May 28, 2021, 08:56:15 PM
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It was a self-moderated topic so you should have assumed from the start there is a risk of getting your posts deleted, and to be honest the whole topic should have nuked by mods a long time ago, as it was obviously infected with bots.
From what I'm seeing in the archives seems like the moderation was to silence critics, as previous gems like these ones were left alone:
https://ninjastic.space/post/43051799
https://ninjastic.space/post/50285957

Anyhow, why do you care about those posts that much? 3 out of 2718? Common!!!!

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I wonder if they scammed the wrong person and now they are trying to erase all their tracks Huh



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May 28, 2021, 08:58:43 PM
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That thread was self-moderated, which means that it would be unfair if he wanted to delete it, but couldn't. You should be aware of self-moderated threads next time. Most of the users here aren't made to be moderators and they have the power to do so that way.

Recently three of my posts were deleted
And all that rigmarole for three posts?

There's still the archives too you can use to find replies that were on the topic by checking (eg archive.org takes frequent snapshots of the forum - or used to at least).
Or simply, by going onto ninjastic space: https://ninjastic.space/search?topic_id=3623567

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May 28, 2021, 09:08:42 PM
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There's still the archives too you can use to find replies that were on the topic by checking (eg archive.org takes frequent snapshots of the forum - or used to at least).
Such archiving websites save a page only if someone requests it. They don't take the snapshots frequently.
The best tools for seeing deleted posts of the forum are loyce.club and ninjastic.space.

For example, you can use the links below to see posts of the thread in question on loyce.club and ninjastic.space respectively.

https://loyce.club/archive/topics/362/3623567.html
https://ninjastic.space/search?topic_id=3623567

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May 28, 2021, 11:35:51 PM
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I wonder if they scammed the wrong person and now they are trying to erase all their tracks Huh
They are definitely trying to remove evidence of what was posted in the thread. It appears the thread was an ANN thread for an altcoin, whose website is/was https://mb8coin.io/ and does not appear to have ever been very popular. Their whitepaper is no longer available on their website, which should tell you a lot about their project.

It could be that the devs are in the process of abandoning the project, or it could be there is something more malicious going on.
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May 29, 2021, 03:54:39 AM
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Recently three of my posts were deleted and when i checked, i found that it was deleted from this self moderated thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3623567.msg36606517#msg36606517). I have archived screenshot it too.


Don't worry about your post deleted in a self moderated thread as they don't count as spam posts being deleted. Its on the will of the thread starter to keep the posts or delete them. As long as the forum mods don't delete your posts, there is nothing of the concern.
Just avoid posting on such threads which are self moderated , if you do not want anyone deletes your posts.
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May 29, 2021, 04:16:20 AM
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You've been a member here for over three years, so you should know all about this stuff.  If you don't want your posts deleted by an individual, don't post in a self-moderated thread.  Of course the thread starter of a self-modded thread can delete your posts; that's the whole point of being able to moderate your own threads.

Why are you so concerned about your post count anyway?


I know all this stuff but my point of view is that it should not be allowed anyone to delete so high number of posts even from self moderated thread.
As you can see that it was an ANN thread and removal of all the posts from an ANN thread smell a scam.

I am not concern about my post count, rather my point of view was different. If you follow a project and its ANN is self moderated, where do you then post about it  Huh


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More like the project was a failure and now they are deleting that might be used as an evidence. I wonder how they manage to do that but I think to completely erase everything related to them or avoid the tracks. Sad to say but chance is so thin that it will be recovered, live with it OP.
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May 29, 2021, 05:27:40 AM
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I know all this stuff but my point of view is that it should not be allowed anyone to delete so high number of posts even from self moderated thread.
As you can see that it was an ANN thread and removal of all the posts from an ANN thread smell a scam.
Users who create self mod threads are allowed to moderate it, the way they like, if used in an ANN thread it raises some red flags that other users should take note of. Scams are not moderated by the forum.

If you follow a project and its ANN is self moderated, where do you then post about it  Huh
By follow, do you mean wish to invest? If yes, you shouldn't invest in a project which self mods their ANN thread, without sufficient reasons. You try asking questions in the main thread as to why it is selfmoded, if no sufficient answer is given, warn other users there that it could be a scam, if you reply is deleted, create another thread in reputation and post there.

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Last edit: May 29, 2021, 06:05:27 AM by lovesmayfamilis
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Back in 2018, it was known to many that newbies who create a self-moderated topic expect to see only the answers they need in their topic. It was one of the red flags. Strangely, the OP doesn't know about this.
Today we can expect from this account the emergence of a new scam project or more commonplace things like selling an account since it is still valuable as a cooper member.

hey are definitely trying to remove evidence of what was posted in the thread. It appears the thread was an ANN thread for an altcoin, whose website is/was https://mb8coin.io/ and does not appear to have ever been very popular.

Today this site is functioning, but when checking its wallet, virustotal.com issues a warning.


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May 29, 2021, 06:37:51 AM
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Back in 2018, it was known to many that newbies who create a self-moderated topic expect to see only the answers they need in their topic. It was one of the red flags. Strangely, the OP doesn't know about this.

For your information, i know about it. Don't know why you people not understanding my point of view. To be clear, i mean to say wouldn't it be good if the self moderated threads posts won't be allowed to delete by the thread starter after certain time (3 months or 6 months) to prevent these types of ambiguity or potential  scams.

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Back in 2018, it was known to many that newbies who create a self-moderated topic expect to see only the answers they need in their topic. It was one of the red flags. Strangely, the OP doesn't know about this.

For your information, i know about it. Don't know why you people not understanding my point of view. To be clear, i mean to say wouldn't it be good if the self moderated threads posts won't be allowed to delete by the thread starter after certain time (3 months or 6 months) to prevent these types of ambiguity or potential  scams.

Your question has been discussed several times, and it has been proven many times that if you see a topic that can be further moderated if you are not sure that everything will be okay with your posts, do not trust it.
Moreover, you were aware of such open topics. What more do you want? Have you forgotten that the forum welcomes freedom? By prohibiting the deletion of posts from such threads over time, doesn't this violate the very idea of creating self-moderation?
There is always a choice. And your choice, since you knew about it, was to write there, no matter what.

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This list (still) doesn't include the older posts. It's on my Todo to fix that, but it'll take a while.

A better option is https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_3623567.html (see LoyceV's Topic Details: highlight deleted and edited posts (forum wide), it requires posting the link before it works).
Update: well, that didn't work either Sad I've added it to my Todo list.



As for "being unfair": that's the risk of posting in a self-moderated topic:
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As for "being unfair": that's the risk of posting in a self-moderated topic:
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If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.

Sometimes it is not practical as in this example, i can't create another ANN thread only because original ANN thread was created as self moderated one.

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