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Following whales strategy is best to counter their manipulation in the market but in actual or say in reality this is difficult because of funds limitation like whales accumulate thousands of bitcoins at dips and on the other side how much can you invest if the prices are at $30-$40k even after crash? And most importantly there is saying in market "weaker hands sold to strong hands" which is correct like the panic sellers jointly sold their coins to the whale group at dips due to FUD spreaded by them.But the best time is to invest when there is blood on Roads meaning when charts are red just go with investment and green signals increase your profit.You can't compete with whales but try to weaken their situation if you learn this thing.
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June 01, 2021, 06:38:04 PM |
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Whales create FUD, weak hands got shaken easily, and start to get panic. Whether we like it or not, these rich people that we called whales are making their own way to make money and to take advantage of the market while small investors riding on it. But it was too unfortunate that most of the newcomers got their trap and caught. So I could say that whales are smarter than causal investors and they can really manipulate the market if they want to.
Whales win in the fiat world as well, having money that you do not need is a power that we can't even understand. When you have 1000 dollars and you invested 100 dollars of that, it is your 10% and when you have 10 million dollars and invest 1 million dollars it is 10% as well. However they are not the same thing, when you lose that 100 dollars you might be losing a money that is very important to you, money that could change your life, pay your bills, something valuable to me, however when that guy loses his million dollars he still has 9 million dollars, he doesn't change his life at all. This is why I think it is quite important we realize that we are fighting against an enemy that has nuclear weapon and we are trying to shoot them with glocks, there is a big difference, some of us have knives instead, these guys are bombing us with nuclear, the difference is THAT big.
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June 02, 2021, 12:09:56 PM |
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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.
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June 02, 2021, 01:58:45 PM |
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The method used is not patentable and can be easily estimated. if that's the way everyone can guess, then what's the point of throwing away?
I think it is still difficult to define a predictable way which is then considered a method for whales to manipulate prices in the market.
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June 02, 2021, 05:41:50 PM |
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Mostly it was a insecure feeling to the traders.It was the main reason for selling at low price.For all the coin,the manipulation of price is made by Whales.Their is no word of loss in crypto ,if you follow the step of holding.Holding make the good profit for your little investment.People inverse their needed money and get the loss by selling for dependence .
Whenever the price falls there will be fear and that is not going to change anytime soon neither. I believe we are going to end up with something that would basically be life changing in the next run. People are still not realizing where we are right now, that is the real scary part. Those insecure traders will be shocked when they realize that if we have another huge run like we had here, that will eventually end up with something like a bigger market cap than gold type of deal, that is not understandable, that is not going to end up with something that could be profitable for just us, it is going to be profitable for everyone in the world, "flip gold" is not something that can be taken lightly. In the end I am hoping to see that bitcoin could probably reach to a level where life will become much better, and those who are insecure will slowly grow used to it.
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June 02, 2021, 10:58:26 PM |
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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.
It is absolutely not acceptable to me but we can't stop people from doing this as they think that Elon Musk is helping us (for example). Of course, I do the same but to unfortunate that this person had ruined everything and makes us a fool. This is to understand that it could be easy for the rich people, known personality to manipulate the market as they have the power to make it. We can never stop them as well as it was their right. It's up to us to decide if we have to follow them or not.
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June 02, 2021, 11:17:29 PM |
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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.
It is absolutely not acceptable to me but we can't stop people from doing this as they think that Elon Musk is helping us (for example). Of course, I do the same but to unfortunate that this person had ruined everything and makes us a fool. This is to understand that it could be easy for the rich people, known personality to manipulate the market as they have the power to make it. We can never stop them as well as it was their right. It's up to us to decide if we have to follow them or not. Elon Musk clearly knows how to manipulate the market and riding on the hype is risky as he can easily FUD the market about it and make you all on a loss. It will all depend on the trader on how he will trade and outsmart the market hype. I did trade DOGE because of Elon Musk and I did earn some profits because of the hype he made, Though I take profits and the result is I didn't get caught in the dumps that are naturally occurring on the market. If you believe in these influencers, Try believing in yourself. Use them as they use you.
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June 02, 2021, 11:20:35 PM |
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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.
It is absolutely not acceptable to me but we can't stop people from doing this as they think that Elon Musk is helping us (for example). Of course, I do the same but to unfortunate that this person had ruined everything and makes us a fool. This is to understand that it could be easy for the rich people, known personality to manipulate the market as they have the power to make it. We can never stop them as well as it was their right. It's up to us to decide if we have to follow them or not. Since we can't stop this from happening as it depends on the person himself and we can't dictate them what to say, just take advantage of the situation. If we can't beat them, join them, right? After all, he doesn't care what will happen to your portfolio. It is your money, so take care of it and be responsible with your decisions. These whales are free to manipulate the market but as a small crypto user you need to take care of your own business.
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June 02, 2021, 11:28:48 PM |
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Mostly it was a insecure feeling to the traders.It was the main reason for selling at low price.For all the coin,the manipulation of price is made by Whales.Their is no word of loss in crypto ,if you follow the step of holding.Holding make the good profit for your little investment.People inverse their needed money and get the loss by selling for dependence .
We can study the whales strategy, here's an example, when you have $10 million USD and you buy Bitcoin what will happen? Of course the price will go up significantly right? then all traders will also follow it, just imagine that 5% increase is enough for whales to take profit, 5% of 1 million usd how much huh? ha ha
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June 03, 2021, 10:37:03 AM |
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This is actually useful for any trader if they know the signs that it is being done and most of the time, the signs can easily be seen if you look hard enough. Crypto whales only have power on people that aren't aware of what they are doing so you better be not on that side of the fence because that means that you are one of the millions out there that helps whales make money.
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June 03, 2021, 03:12:08 PM |
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cmon, they are a whales, they do not need any tricks to manipualte the market. Buy and sell buttons are enough
I agree with you, the name 'whales' means they have a big amount of money, and that's all they need to manipulate the markets. If they want to bump it or crash it, then they will do it just by clicking a button, simple as that, not magic involved in this move. But is important to mention that whales not always win. They can buy big amounts of crypto, but if another whale crash the market they will be in negative numbers.
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June 04, 2021, 12:44:23 AM |
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Btw, if you are more into technical analysis, like more watching and analyzing on the charts. Do you think spotting whales' manipulation is worth it? Like if you are a trader by technical, do you believe in this whale manipulation? Since most of the traders I followed, they don't mention at all these whales manipulation, they don't show it on their charts.
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June 04, 2021, 02:46:55 AM |
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cmon, they are a whales, they do not need any tricks to manipualte the market. Buy and sell buttons are enough
I agree with you, the name 'whales' means they have a big amount of money, and that's all they need to manipulate the markets. If they want to bump it or crash it, then they will do it just by clicking a button, simple as that, not magic involved in this move. But is important to mention that whales not always win. They can buy big amounts of crypto, but if another whale crash the market they will be in negative numbers. therefore some whales use the power of news to move the market in their favor, as recently, where he preached receiving bitcoin, and buying it, it was clearly reported, and not long after he preached the opposite with the aim of causing panic to all investors to follow the steps
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June 04, 2021, 03:10:49 PM |
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Mostly it was a insecure feeling to the traders.It was the main reason for selling at low price.For all the coin,the manipulation of price is made by Whales.Their is no word of loss in crypto ,if you follow the step of holding.Holding make the good profit for your little investment.People inverse their needed money and get the loss by selling for dependence .
Holding on is still the best strategy. However holding altcoins should be at a lower price. holding it forcefully would be very painful. Pope has a lot of strategies put in place to control the crypto market price. We must also be able to read it and follow it. riding a whale will be very useful so as not to get caught in a bad situation when the price starts to crash. The FUD made by the pope is a common practice. Don't panic and get swayed easily. follow the whale game and we will survive.
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June 04, 2021, 06:36:42 PM |
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Honestly bitcointalk is the greatest place to create backlinks, it is really something that would help you get a high SEO and if I ever have a business in the crypto world I am definitely going to link it here constantly. This guy wrote something in 2018 may and now there is pages of content writing under his point, it is really weird, it is a great backlink process to include bitcointalk.
I do know that there is a good reason why whales can manipulate and make profit, obviously one is money, but the second is that they are not getting in trouble here as much as any other place, if you do insider trading in stock market or anywhere else you get into big trouble, but when you do that in crypto there is no problem. Elon could literally tell all of his rich friends to sell and get out, then tweet something, and then they can buy lower, and repeat it. Who knows they are not doing it? And SEC or nobody else would care because it's crypto.
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June 04, 2021, 10:40:52 PM |
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So in conclusion, is it safe to assume that what is happening to the market is a whale manipulation?
Like how do you really spot a whale doing a manipulation in the market?
So, is a bear/bull trap a manipulation too? If yes, then they shouldn't be here in the market. It's like how the Chinese making a scene to make a fud news that would spread like a wild fire eventually.
All I can say is to hodl if you think you are under the spell of whales manipulation and don't be a squishy weak-hands trying to help the whales to make more money.
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June 08, 2021, 02:17:11 PM |
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Currently, tools that all people have access are used, and they are social networks, when influential people speak out, they move masses, emotions and cause them to buy or sell, such is the case of the best example Elon Musk, with only a few tweets he made many They will buy Doge and BTC in a massive way, so much that the prices made a big pump, but he by launching a tweet not so good for BTC caused one of the biggest Dumps of all, it is obvious that it was a strategy, if he wanted to sell BTC He achieved it in a great way, this type of manipulation has been applied since the 1800s in the stock market.
It is absolutely not acceptable to me but we can't stop people from doing this as they think that Elon Musk is helping us (for example). Of course, I do the same but to unfortunate that this person had ruined everything and makes us a fool. This is to understand that it could be easy for the rich people, known personality to manipulate the market as they have the power to make it. We can never stop them as well as it was their right. It's up to us to decide if we have to follow them or not. Since we can't stop this from happening as it depends on the person himself and we can't dictate them what to say, just take advantage of the situation. If we can't beat them, join them, right? After all, he doesn't care what will happen to your portfolio. It is your money, so take care of it and be responsible with your decisions. These whales are free to manipulate the market but as a small crypto user you need to take care of your own business. Thus, there is a very clear saying in trading that few use it "Trade with other people's money", that is, follow the direction that the whales put, because if you go against it, it is obvious that you are going to lose, this can be interpreted in several ways: Good news = SELL, Bad News = BUY, now if Elon Musk or a well-known whale speaks well about BTC, it is best to buy because it will surely go up, but do it almost instantly, because it cannot be denied that these influencers move masses And emotions, now, if Elon Musk returns to make another tweet speaking badly of BTC, I don't think he has the same market manipulation power anymore, I think Elon Musk has lost his market manipulation power.
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.
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the name 'whales' means they have a big amount of money, and that's all they need to manipulate the markets. If they want to bump it or crash it, then they will do it just by clicking a button, simple as that, not magic involved in this move.
But is important to mention that whales not always win. They can buy big amounts of crypto, but if another whale crash the market they will be in negative numbers.
That's true and that is why often whales are not a single entity but a group of traders/investors and will always coordinate their moves to make sure everyone benefits from each other. If Elon Musk is pumping doge and a whale is trying to short dogecoin then they will fail miserably because they cannot surpass a bigger investor who is working in the opposite direction. The real losers are those who panic and sell their coins when a whale is selling. Trading is all about reading what the market is doing and then reacting in the best possible manner. Even the whales can be defeated if people don't panic when a whale sell off.
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June 08, 2021, 04:32:58 PM |
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Whenever the price falls there will be fear and that is not going to change anytime soon neither. I believe we are going to end up with something that would basically be life changing in the next run. People are still not realizing where we are right now, that is the real scary part.
This also happens in all the markets even in the stock market and no matter even if everyone is aware that someone is manipulating it, you cannot do much. Every trader, small or big, manipulates the market in their own manner. When we buy an asset we are intentionally or unintentionally making the market fall down. The only way you avoid the whales impacting you is by investing in tokens where you feel the value lies in the project, not the tokens. When you buy tokens or coins under others' influence or just based on recent market movements, you will always have fear and hence an insecure trader. Once you start investing in the worth of the project and the usability of the token, you will never be too afraid of the market crashing or pumping.
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