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June 09, 2021, 05:57:54 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.

Well, you don't have to think like that, many think that whales always win in the market, but it is not like that, many whales have losses, the only thing is that most when they lose they tend to get their money back faster. than smaller investors and much more than traders.

Whales can have the money to acquire tools such as consolidated volume, which is something that has a huge advantage over small investors, compared to traders since no stock has the consolidated volume, in fact in 2018 when a market started fully bearish, via Bitfinex, and most exchanges were driven by the price Bitfinex had. The reason was simple, the whales entered Short for Bitfinex, to lower the price a lot, cause panic and make them buy cheaper.

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June 11, 2021, 06:49:40 AM
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The whales are soon going to be unable to manipulate the market or they will find it hard to do so, the market keeps growing and the level at which it was in 2014 is not what it is now, it has reached a bigger level now.

Although we still some of them that have tried to manipulate the market as of recent, with some being influencers who tries to use their influence on their followers to gain control over the market. I am hoping that soon we will get pass that level where people will have any single chance to manipulate the market at all, and I hope the market will just move on its own.
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The whales are soon going to be unable to manipulate the market or they will find it hard to do so, the market keeps growing and the level at which it was in 2014 is not what it is now, it has reached a bigger level now.
That must be completely true because when one market is going bigger then man of letters will slowly lose their power to move according to their own wish. Bitcoin is already a bigger one but unfortunately we are having very big whales on boards which is the reason we are still facing problems due to them and their ugly wishes.

I am hoping that soon we will get pass that level where people will have any single chance to manipulate the market at all, and I hope the market will just move on its own.
I believe that is attainable when we are having consistently massive trading volume across all crypto exchanges. We are slowly moving toward that kind of scenario but in between time we need to bear those greedy whales and their manipulations.

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June 12, 2021, 06:08:38 AM
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The whales are soon going to be unable to manipulate the market or they will find it hard to do so, the market keeps growing and the level at which it was in 2014 is not what it is now, it has reached a bigger level now.

Although we still some of them that have tried to manipulate the market as of recent, with some being influencers who tries to use their influence on their followers to gain control over the market. I am hoping that soon we will get pass that level where people will have any single chance to manipulate the market at all, and I hope the market will just move on its own.
In this case, whales can indeed move the market, but this is temporary. and I think they use the influence of their name to lead other traders psychologically so that they are in tune with their transactions, so that it will become a great force and eventually be able to move the market as they wish. So in conclusion, whales don't seem to be able to move on their own, they still need the strength of the community

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June 12, 2021, 07:57:36 AM
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The whales are soon going to be unable to manipulate the market or they will find it hard to do so, the market keeps growing and the level at which it was in 2014 is not what it is now, it has reached a bigger level now.

Although we still some of them that have tried to manipulate the market as of recent, with some being influencers who tries to use their influence on their followers to gain control over the market. I am hoping that soon we will get pass that level where people will have any single chance to manipulate the market at all, and I hope the market will just move on its own.
In this case, whales can indeed move the market, but this is temporary. and I think they use the influence of their name to lead other traders psychologically so that they are in tune with their transactions, so that it will become a great force and eventually be able to move the market as they wish. So in conclusion, whales don't seem to be able to move on their own, they still need the strength of the community
They have the money plus they are known to the public which makes it easy for them to manipulate the market as they know that many will follow them. I'm not saying they were wrong as this is how the market works, manipulation has already existed since before and even outside crypto so this is not new and impossible. But somehow, many got the benefit with this because as they move the market high, people are taking advantage and sell their crypto.

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June 12, 2021, 07:33:11 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.

Don't follow the whales as you can't beat them at their own game of you do so, the only way to beat them is to do exactly the opposite. When they want you to be greedy (when the bulls are in season, everything turns green) if you're not an investor that's capable of holding for long term then the best thing to do is sell although you have to be observant so you don't sell too early and miss out on potential future gains.

Now when the market is bearish, the whales are simply waiting on you to sell your coins so they can buy at discount. The fact is there'll already be investors wanting to sell but you don't have to be among those investors.

Instead if you have spear funds you should buy the dip in anticipation of better days ahead and yes there'll already be green days, it just depends on how long you'll be willing to wait.

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June 12, 2021, 08:19:09 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses
If you think you can very well follow the whales in the market and very well make a profit and are confident about it then you do not need to worry whether you are having a small capital or not because you will eventually make the fortune you are aspiring to make.

If i was having any clue to understand which direction the market would go before hand i would have made a life changing fortune. 
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June 12, 2021, 08:54:44 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses
If you think you can very well follow the whales in the market and very well make a profit and are confident about it then you do not need to worry whether you are having a small capital or not because you will eventually make the fortune you are aspiring to make.

If i was having any clue to understand which direction the market would go before hand i would have made a life changing fortune. 
If the whales controls the market then the current dip now would have been uplifted by them, the whale are not responsible for long term bullish profit and that's what so many investors are longing out for. Someone buying btc at $3k last year and holding it till now doesn't really means whales are the cause of his great profit but by long term holding, the only way to be strong and not be a dump trader is by holding do you stay away from any manipulation the so called whales have planned.
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July 08, 2021, 03:56:23 AM
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As an ordinary person, what I can do for myself is to read more news and observe trends at any time, just like Musk’s series of operations, from supporting Bitcoin payments to not supporting Bitcoin payments, causing Bitcoin volatility and shaking the market. In fact, the most important thing for us is to be cautious, not to be blind, let alone panic and emotional, because we cannot guess the next move of the whale.
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July 08, 2021, 06:09:27 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.
The whales can do many things to manipulate the market. Usually, they can make traders or investors panic because of something that they say to the public. If they do that, we need to calm down to see if they are trying to manipulate the market or it will happen to the next. But unfortunately, even if we say that we need to calm down, we sometimes forget and still panic, especially if the price is plunging drastically.

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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.
The whales can do many things to manipulate the market. Usually, they can make traders or investors panic because of something that they say to the public. If they do that, we need to calm down to see if they are trying to manipulate the market or it will happen to the next. But unfortunately, even if we say that we need to calm down, we sometimes forget and still panic, especially if the price is plunging drastically.
This is normal in human nature, to panic especially if you are looking at your bloody portfolio, but you can still control that bad emotion by looking back at your strategies. Whales wants to make more money by just manipulating the market, either they create fud or hype, they sell or buy that's how they works and we should learn how to ride with them even if its too impossible to know the next move of the whales. I also believe in an organized market manipulation, I'm pretty sure there's a group working for this because whale alone can't manipulate the whole market.

Coins with very low market cap or with low trading volume are easy to manipulate.
Not only by whales, but the team themselves can do their manipulation in order to show that the price has good price increase.
This is what you can see in most pump and dump coins. If you spot coins like this, better stay away before you get victimized.
For high market cap coins, would be harder to manipulate. Unless, there are whales that really have tons of money to make market movement.
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.
The whales can do many things to manipulate the market. Usually, they can make traders or investors panic because of something that they say to the public. If they do that, we need to calm down to see if they are trying to manipulate the market or it will happen to the next. But unfortunately, even if we say that we need to calm down, we sometimes forget and still panic, especially if the price is plunging drastically.
This is normal in human nature, to panic especially if you are looking at your bloody portfolio, but you can still control that bad emotion by looking back at your strategies. Whales wants to make more money by just manipulating the market, either they create fud or hype, they sell or buy that's how they works and we should learn how to ride with them even if its too impossible to know the next move of the whales. I also believe in an organized market manipulation, I'm pretty sure there's a group working for this because whale alone can't manipulate the whole market.
Indeed. If we can remember and back to control ourselves, that will not be a problem. But unfortunately, once traders lose control, they cannot control themselves because of the panic from losing the money. Sometimes, the whales use the current news from the outside to make traders panic and buy or sell instantly because the whales really know how to shake the market. Our job is always to calm down, think twice and analyze more to figure out what is happening to the market. The whales can manipulate the market but they can not do that forever.

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July 09, 2021, 02:15:45 PM
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Whales always win in cryptomarket and I think it's a good idea to ride on their strategy to gain more but the problem is the capital. Small investors have only a limited capital unlike crypto whales. As small investors or trader, you should take advantage of the situation and follow the direction of those whales because if not you will be in a great losses.
The whales can do many things to manipulate the market. Usually, they can make traders or investors panic because of something that they say to the public. If they do that, we need to calm down to see if they are trying to manipulate the market or it will happen to the next. But unfortunately, even if we say that we need to calm down, we sometimes forget and still panic, especially if the price is plunging drastically.
This is normal in human nature, to panic especially if you are looking at your bloody portfolio, but you can still control that bad emotion by looking back at your strategies. Whales wants to make more money by just manipulating the market, either they create fud or hype, they sell or buy that's how they works and we should learn how to ride with them even if its too impossible to know the next move of the whales. I also believe in an organized market manipulation, I'm pretty sure there's a group working for this because whale alone can't manipulate the whole market.

Coins with very low market cap or with low trading volume are easy to manipulate.
Not only by whales, but the team themselves can do their manipulation in order to show that the price has good price increase.
This is what you can see in most pump and dump coins. If you spot coins like this, better stay away before you get victimized.
For high market cap coins, would be harder to manipulate. Unless, there are whales that really have tons of money to make market movement.
a coin like that when pumped and dumped, it will be difficult to get back up again, as if only drawing a peak that immediately returns to the valley. There are many examples that we can see, where after being pumped it returns to the valley and we don't seem to be presented with the real development of the project. Therefore, don't because we have already reached a high price, we assume the price will return to the peak, many projects have died

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a coin like that when pumped and dumped, it will be difficult to get back up again, as if only drawing a peak that immediately returns to the valley. There are many examples that we can see, where after being pumped it returns to the valley and we don't seem to be presented with the real development of the project. Therefore, don't because we have already reached a high price, we assume the price will return to the peak, many projects have died
I believe that it is about the project creators as well, because when you reach to a high level and then drop then there is nothing much you can do about it. Some reason people are expecting marketing from the creators which is not their job at all, but assuming they still do it a bit, people keep wanting it more and more and more, for some reason creators are forced to spend millions of dollars or at least run ads until they have absolutely no money left.

I know this because I used to be staff in many projects and I have worked in marketing department for many companies, I tried to spend as little as possible to get the most out of it, but even when you spend thousands of dollars in the biggest stages you still end up broke one day, project owners do not have unlimited funds, eventually they do not have any money left neither and then if the project grows it grows if not then it becomes nothing.

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July 14, 2021, 10:06:32 PM
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The whales can do many things to manipulate the market. Usually, they can make traders or investors panic because of something that they say to the public. If they do that, we need to calm down to see if they are trying to manipulate the market or it will happen to the next. But unfortunately, even if we say that we need to calm down, we sometimes forget and still panic, especially if the price is plunging drastically.
Lol, those are not whales. Those are idiots seeking attention or trying to create an opportunity for themselves (or secretly indeed is a whale). Whales are totally different people. They have a invested and bought a lot of the coins to have some impact in the market. They can start dumping their coins to cause a crash in the market so that they can buy in cheap. They can start mass buying to create a fake "pump". So when the price rises, they dump again and so on. Those affects are very short lived though. And as more people starts to buy bitcoin, the whale manipulation will slowly disappear.

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July 14, 2021, 11:48:48 PM
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We can never be surprised how whales doing this (manipulation) and they have the right to do it since there is no regulation prohibiting them. They are also investors, they are helping the market to grow, and doing those things made them rich. And you can deny that you are riding them when the hypes started, right? So, if they are doing this because they have the reason and that is their way to make money.

I don't think it was bad, you just think it was when you miss the train or those who just invest blindly. Because if you are with these people, you can also take some share of what they did.

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July 15, 2021, 03:14:44 AM
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Just hodl and let the whales do their work, buy when you see that the prices are going down and sell when the prices are at an exorbitant amount, we don't have to master whale watching since the prices tells it all and no matter how much you avoid it, if you follow crypto related news, you will always be reminded with news.
Yes , the manipulation only make work when People are responding to their attempt , But if you will let your coins stay in your wallet and never sell instead try to buy more when the whales try to dump the market?\
Then they will surely fail the manipulation and we the holders will Win.
this is what we use as attitude for them to understand that people now are mature and not noob like what they think in the past.









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July 15, 2021, 09:48:01 AM
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Just hodl and let the whales do their work, buy when you see that the prices are going down and sell when the prices are at an exorbitant amount, we don't have to master whale watching since the prices tells it all and no matter how much you avoid it, if you follow crypto related news, you will always be reminded with news.
Yes , the manipulation only make work when People are responding to their attempt , But if you will let your coins stay in your wallet and never sell instead try to buy more when the whales try to dump the market?\
Then they will surely fail the manipulation and we the holders will Win.
this is what we use as attitude for them to understand that people now are mature and not noob like what they think in the past.
Nevertheless, these whales keep on winning rather than having a losing end. People are happy in the situation that their coin just pumps and to ask who did this huge pump? Basically, we address it to the whales and I think we should be grateful that was to happen.
And you have said that we don't let these whales win and responded with their attempt? I don't think so because we don't know what their will be their plan and in fact, we somehow riding with them and make good money because of the hypes they've made.
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Just hodl and let the whales do their work, buy when you see that the prices are going down and sell when the prices are at an exorbitant amount, we don't have to master whale watching since the prices tells it all and no matter how much you avoid it, if you follow crypto related news, you will always be reminded with news.
Yes , the manipulation only make work when People are responding to their attempt , But if you will let your coins stay in your wallet and never sell instead try to buy more when the whales try to dump the market?\
Then they will surely fail the manipulation and we the holders will Win.
this is what we use as attitude for them to understand that people now are mature and not noob like what they think in the past.
- But the result is that whales never fail while we who know their direction have failed, the prophecy of manipulation is always in effect because they are the organizers of the persistence contest, we are the candidates who knew the title of the contest in advance but our body language betrayed us, we are often shaken by red prices. Our efforts in holding are not equal to their efforts in dumping, they can consume more time and money but we are only small investors and quite limited on those two things


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July 15, 2021, 02:53:36 PM
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Whales manipulate the market by

- Walls: buy walls and sell walls. With such, they will create temporary and fake support and resistance. Then price will be hold in between buy and sell walls. When times is on, those walls will be removed by whales or be eaten up by market participants (fomo or panic).
- News: they release news to buy up and break resistance or break down the suppport walls.
- Policy, regulation-related news: we are in eventful time with lots of fud, news from policies, regulations, crackdown, arrest, lawsuits, etc. Any coincidene, please think of it.

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