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December 16, 2021, 09:36:46 PM
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Agree, but still has a risk. We don't know what will happen. Like you are expecting that the other team will win 100% since the other team is the underdog, but it turns out that the underdog teams win the game. It still has a risk. Anything is possible in gambling. If you have luck, you will also win a large amount of money. We usually see this in the bets that if you bet on an underdog team, you will make more money than those teams that are the choice of many.
There are some fights that have a very low risk if you bet on the favorite, however as you mention this does not mean that the bets are completely risk-free, after all anything can happen in a fight, for example if the favorite to win the fight gets sick the day before or in the day of the fight then his performance level is going to be affected to the point he could lose the fight, this is very rare of course as fighters take great care of their bodies and their health before the fight but it happens, so even a bet that seems like it can be easily won can be lost under the wrong circumstances.
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December 16, 2021, 11:26:45 PM
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Agree, but still has a risk. We don't know what will happen. Like you are expecting that the other team will win 100% since the other team is the underdog, but it turns out that the underdog teams win the game. It still has a risk. Anything is possible in gambling. If you have luck, you will also win a large amount of money. We usually see this in the bets that if you bet on an underdog team, you will make more money than those teams that are the choice of many.
There are some fights that have a very low risk if you bet on the favorite, however as you mention this does not mean that the bets are completely risk-free, after all anything can happen in a fight, for example if the favorite to win the fight gets sick the day before or in the day of the fight then his performance level is going to be affected to the point he could lose the fight, this is very rare of course as fighters take great care of their bodies and their health before the fight but it happens, so even a bet that seems like it can be easily won can be lost under the wrong circumstances.
Having issues with health most of the time could really result into cancellation or wont be considered to be a lost bet. The most common thing to happen is on

when making out sure bets with favorite ones and did really make out some upset which there would always be the odds or chance for it to happen and bettors shouldnt really be not minding off those probabilities.

I dont know about risk free bets unless if you do know some rigged or fixed matches then i would consider for it to be like that.

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December 16, 2021, 11:43:45 PM
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No such a thing as risk free, not in fights but, in general, not in life. No free meals, no free rides, no 100% safe. Having said that, on the fight you mention the weight difference is spectacular and that is a teller of the result in the wide majority of cases. However, just as you can see it, so can the bookies and those are the odds you are getting, which adds to the previous assertions - this is designed so that you will lose more time than you will win. Play for fun and to make it interesting.

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December 17, 2021, 01:29:49 PM
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Agree, but still has a risk. We don't know what will happen. Like you are expecting that the other team will win 100% since the other team is the underdog, but it turns out that the underdog teams win the game. It still has a risk. Anything is possible in gambling. If you have luck, you will also win a large amount of money. We usually see this in the bets that if you bet on an underdog team, you will make more money than those teams that are the choice of many.
There are some fights that have a very low risk if you bet on the favorite, however as you mention this does not mean that the bets are completely risk-free, after all anything can happen in a fight, for example if the favorite to win the fight gets sick the day before or in the day of the fight then his performance level is going to be affected to the point he could lose the fight, this is very rare of course as fighters take great care of their bodies and their health before the fight but it happens, so even a bet that seems like it can be easily won can be lost under the wrong circumstances.
So from that, we can conclude that there is no risk-free in gambling and we need to know before we bet on gambling games. If you don't bet on that games or sports, that will be free from the risk because you don't spend any money to earn money but you decide just to watch the games until you see the winner. When you are involved in gambling games, no matter whether you use your own money or from the bonuses, you will still risk losing that money, especially if the situation is changing.
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December 17, 2021, 02:54:01 PM
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No such a thing as risk free, not in fights but, in general, not in life. No free meals, no free rides, no 100% safe. Having said that, on the fight you mention the weight difference is spectacular and that is a teller of the result in the wide majority of cases. However, just as you can see it, so can the bookies and those are the odds you are getting, which adds to the previous assertions - this is designed so that you will lose more time than you will win. Play for fun and to make it interesting.

Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
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December 17, 2021, 03:34:44 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

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December 17, 2021, 03:43:07 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.

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December 17, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.
Fixed matches do really happen only on small leageus or local ones which same or you are right on what you had said but not wont really be possible to be applied on bigger or popular ones because they do know that fans arent that blind and bettors when it comes to unusual
things that do happen.

This do applies on all sports because we know that fixed matches do exist but wont really be simple on acquiring these informations.

Risk free fights doesnt exist even if you do say about betting on favorites for you to win doesnt give out sureness.

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December 17, 2021, 09:17:44 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.

Nobody who is fixing matches is going to allow that information to get into the public domain, because either one of two things will happen 1) the odds will be adjusted to nullify the fact that the match will be fixed. 2) the match will be cancelled along with fighter being excluded from the sport in future - shutting down a potentially lucrative income. The reason people fix matches is to make large amounts of money, which will not happen unless it stays a tightly guarded secret. Lower league matches will rarely receive any odds from reputable bookmakers because it is simply too easy to corrupt the fighters in this way and it can be hard to prove.

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December 17, 2021, 09:50:45 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.
Exhibition matches for me are more on a fixed matches and yes it really exist and honeslty, it becomes more popular nowadays. Betting on a risk free fights works locally, I can’t see any betting site without a risk since it always involve money. A fix match is risky as well, because you can’t know who will win on that match.

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December 17, 2021, 10:24:26 PM
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...A fix match is risky as well, because you can’t know who will win on that match.

What then constitutes as a fixed match if the winner is not known ahead of time? That doesn't make sense.

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December 17, 2021, 11:50:11 PM
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Can you share some of your betting strategies which are risk free ?
I think that there is no sport betting which is risk free. No matter how much confident you're on a match, the result could still be against you.

There will always be wins and loses in your betting career. The only thing which may help to be in overall profit will be your money management skills.

this is the point
I wouldn't say there are many risk free opportunities but that we can find asymmetrical possibilities where risk is really small, much smaller than the possible reward
these are the best ones, even though they may not be the most common ones

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December 17, 2021, 11:57:48 PM
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this is the big difference between betting based solely on luck (dice, cards, roullete, etc) and sports betting.
In the first, the risks and chances of winning are immensely greater. But in the second, the risks are reduced because we can use the factor "statistical data" in our favor, analyzing the probabilities of a fight.
However, the house will always have better tools to predict the outcome of a fight and thus this significantly reduces the gains.

In short... the lesser the risks, the lesser the gains. How much does this pay off for players?

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December 18, 2021, 10:28:16 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.
Okay, so that's it and I understand. Maybe you're right that it came into a different thing and it should be like that when the odds should be good for the better player.
I agree about catching those obvious thrown games and matches that are likely sold. If they've done it intentionally, they would really have a problem with that.

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December 18, 2021, 11:23:05 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.

This kind of fixed matches in only available on local leagues but not on international league like boxing. I believe the main point of OP here as risk free match are those wrong odds put by bookmakers to an athlete with a better standings to the other one. Not totally a risk free, He just exaggerated it that's why this discussions became so long for a topic that doesn't exist. Either way, Fixed match nowadays is very rare and easy to caught due to good camera vision and many analysts following every players.
Okay, so that's it and I understand. Maybe you're right that it came into a different thing and it should be like that when the odds should be good for the better player.
I agree about catching those obvious thrown games and matches that are likely sold. If they've done it intentionally, they would really have a problem with that.

I don't know, I would be skeptical about such matches. If I saw the wrong odds on a sportsbook, I would always have a shred of doubt that they might know something I don't. Those odds are set by professionals, I really think the chances are very small that they make a mistake. But I guess anything is possible.

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December 19, 2021, 09:11:52 PM
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Okay, so that's it and I understand. Maybe you're right that it came into a different thing and it should be like that when the odds should be good for the better player.
I agree about catching those obvious thrown games and matches that are likely sold. If they've done it intentionally, they would really have a problem with that.

I don't know, I would be skeptical about such matches. If I saw the wrong odds on a sportsbook, I would always have a shred of doubt that they might know something I don't. Those odds are set by professionals, I really think the chances are very small that they make a mistake. But I guess anything is possible.
You just have to avoid that match if you find it odd. But most of the bettors that sees the advantage and good odds, they won't just allow to miss it.
That's why some bettors have always been looking for the best odds and they're deciding which they'll bet so they have the best possible wins if ever they know and have an idea who's got a better chance of winning.

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December 19, 2021, 09:30:26 PM
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I don't know, I would be skeptical about such matches. If I saw the wrong odds on a sportsbook, I would always have a shred of doubt that they might know something I don't. Those odds are set by professionals, I really think the chances are very small that they make a mistake. But I guess anything is possible.


IMO, there's only a very slim to non chances that the sportsbook will put a wrong odd for most of the matches. If they did put anything wrong, they'll probably notice it since bettors knew that there's something wrong about it especially when it favours the bettors, thus there would be an unusual surge of bets towards that specific match. So, it would be fixed in no time.

Now, If you saw something's wrong about the odds, that probably tells you to be careful on betting for that matches and you need to do your research first. It is most of the time not fixed.

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December 20, 2021, 06:04:02 AM
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Risk is usually accounted for in ratios. 

That is, by placing one bet, you are likely to win a small amount of money.  But if you play this strategy for a long time, then sooner or later you will lose.  And the likelihood of losing will increase significantly if you accidentally place a bet on a contractual (fictitious) match. 

There is an opposite strategy.  Search for the Black Swan.  That is, to place bets on outsiders.  This strategy may be more beneficial. 

And contractual (fictitious) matches will bring you a win, not a loss.

My betting strategies are always designed to minimize the risks, as high risks will sooner lead to the depletion of my deposit. In addition, there are far fewer match-fixing games than honest ones. I can afford to try my luck, but in games where little depends on me, such as slots. If I have doubts about the outcome of a match, I just won't bet on that match. Luckily I don't have gambling addiction and I can wait for a match that has a minimum risk for a very long time.

Can you share some of your betting strategies which are risk free ?
I think that there is no sport betting which is risk free. No matter how much confident you're on a match, the result could still be against you.

There will always be wins and loses in your betting career. The only thing which may help to be in overall profit will be your money management skills.
Even betting constant with favorites doesnt really assure that you could really hit up wins and i dont really believe that there would really be those risk free bets because it wont be called gambling in the first place it there would be no risk at all.If thats the case on where it do really exist out then lots of gamblers would definitely be just stick around on this kind of method and making out myself get rich. People should be at least realistic and dont believe that this thing exist and you would really able
to see for yourself if you do tend to make out some bets.
Indeed, that's why it is called gambling. The gambling sites or online casinos are always on the other side hoping that you would lose that is why they're giving tempting odds that makes you want to bet to the other player to give them chances of winning. But mostly, people always go to the crowd favorites, sure it doesn't pay off as much but atleast you gained some profits from it. The greedy ones will always lose because they're seduced to that odds.
But this is not always the case because sometimes by luck or by chance the underdog wins, and those who had partake the positive odds will definitely gain serious profits.

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December 20, 2021, 02:19:27 PM
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this is the big difference between betting based solely on luck (dice, cards, roullete, etc) and sports betting.
In the first, the risks and chances of winning are immensely greater. But in the second, the risks are reduced because we can use the factor "statistical data" in our favor, analyzing the probabilities of a fight.
However, the house will always have better tools to predict the outcome of a fight and thus this significantly reduces the gains.

In short... the lesser the risks, the lesser the gains. How much does this pay off for players?

The odds put up by bookmakers are also based on analysis only they have a separate team consisting of several people professionally engaged in the analysis of sporting events and athletes. Therefore, their analysis is almost always correct, but they can also make mistakes since nobody cancels the human factor.

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December 20, 2021, 08:24:11 PM
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this is the big difference between betting based solely on luck (dice, cards, roullete, etc) and sports betting.
In the first, the risks and chances of winning are immensely greater. But in the second, the risks are reduced because we can use the factor "statistical data" in our favor, analyzing the probabilities of a fight.
However, the house will always have better tools to predict the outcome of a fight and thus this significantly reduces the gains.

In short... the lesser the risks, the lesser the gains. How much does this pay off for players?

The odds put up by bookmakers are also based on analysis only they have a separate team consisting of several people professionally engaged in the analysis of sporting events and athletes. Therefore, their analysis is almost always correct, but they can also make mistakes since nobody cancels the human factor.
As a bookmaker then there's always a risks on making out their decisions on which one would be on favorites and which one would be underdog and since they are running a business then its just normal that they would be hiring those kind of analyst and would help out on making out decisions on what odds would be offered.They havent built a business without having these considerations
because it would surely cost them if they would really be having a mistake on giving out those odds but actually there are times which odds offered are totally out of
on what we do anticipate.

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