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December 20, 2021, 10:39:48 PM
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Me too, I haven't heard such thing as risk-free betting fights especially in sports like boxing not unless you are going to bet on a fixed kind of game like exhibition bouts that was just made to hype the game and to earn profit. Lucky are those who can have the right combination or scorecard because probably they will be one of the winners betting on that sport. But then, there's no such risk-free even in trading or in investment or even in simple making our life decisions because there will be pros and cons to every situation. 
I don't have thought about such fights and bets too. But what I know with these are likely the sold games and only a few people know about it. A fix match it is.
But are they still a thing these days? Probably to the amateur matches, they are still there but for the pro and big fights, hard to find out about them.
Unfortunately fixed matches are still a thing, it is true that with the size of professional sports it is way harder to fix a match now than when the leagues were smaller decades ago, but it still happens, and when it does there is a huge uproar as many people think that it is impossible that such a thing happens in professional sports, however even if the number of cases is small at the same time this brings the question, how many more matches are fixed that we do not know about? And that is a question no one can really answer.
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December 20, 2021, 11:16:33 PM
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however even if the number of cases is small at the same time this brings the question, how many more matches are fixed that we do not know about? And that is a question no one can really answer.

Fixed on not, our bets are still subject to who will win. A win-win situation indeed. What if we bet on an underdog that is supposed to be fixed, it's still a good win to us. Let's now accept that rigged games system will not end. At least today, especially in big fights, we can conclude that it will be less chance of that game being rigged.

Unless, it's an exhibition match, expect that results are all staged.

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December 21, 2021, 05:34:03 AM
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Agree, but still has a risk. We don't know what will happen. Like you are expecting that the other team will win 100% since the other team is the underdog, but it turns out that the underdog teams win the game. It still has a risk. Anything is possible in gambling. If you have luck, you will also win a large amount of money. We usually see this in the bets that if you bet on an underdog team, you will make more money than those teams that are the choice of many.
There are some fights that have a very low risk if you bet on the favorite, however as you mention this does not mean that the bets are completely risk-free, after all anything can happen in a fight, for example if the favorite to win the fight gets sick the day before or in the day of the fight then his performance level is going to be affected to the point he could lose the fight, this is very rare of course as fighters take great care of their bodies and their health before the fight but it happens, so even a bet that seems like it can be easily won can be lost under the wrong circumstances.
Yes , we cannot really predict the outcome because even if the game is rigged but when the opponent that supposed to win had trouble the night before then the wins may take place by the other one and this will also change the fixed game.
though if this is team effort there will some that can cover the leave of the sick player.
so meaning this is not really a sure win game but 90-99% only and there will always a small portion that may change the course.









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December 21, 2021, 09:25:24 AM
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What really is risk free fight? Such thing does not exist. One punch or kick or minor injury can spoil any risk free bet. Recent UFC fight between champion Amanda Nunes (former champ already) vs Julianna Pena is good example. The odds were like 1.4 for Nunes and 7 for Pena. Nunes was dominating first round. One punch from Pena in round two and Nunes did not manage to get together. As a result, new champ and those who bet on Pena got nice cheque.

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December 21, 2021, 08:17:07 PM
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this is the big difference between betting based solely on luck (dice, cards, roullete, etc) and sports betting.
In the first, the risks and chances of winning are immensely greater. But in the second, the risks are reduced because we can use the factor "statistical data" in our favor, analyzing the probabilities of a fight.
However, the house will always have better tools to predict the outcome of a fight and thus this significantly reduces the gains.

In short... the lesser the risks, the lesser the gains. How much does this pay off for players?

you are right, we are probably not betting on
Team A 15 x 4 Team B
on a soccer team because it's really hard to see a match with more than 9 goals, as an example

but even with the statistics still quite hard to predict sports results, even harder to predict many correct ones in a row.

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December 21, 2021, 08:27:58 PM
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What really is risk free fight? Such thing does not exist. One punch or kick or minor injury can spoil any risk free bet. Recent UFC fight between champion Amanda Nunes (former champ already) vs Julianna Pena is good example. The odds were like 1.4 for Nunes and 7 for Pena. Nunes was dominating first round. One punch from Pena in round two and Nunes did not manage to get together. As a result, new champ and those who bet on Pena got nice cheque.
Thats how upset works and we know that it does exists and could really happen anytime on a strong and highly favorite against underdog thats always been the risks as a bettor on which you wouldnt know on when

those lucky punches or kicks would really land out or to those other sports as well on last minute kind of move which make those underdogs win.I dont really see on those claims about risk free fights because

whenever you do deal with gambling then this is something which you would be mainly facing on and you cant really get rid nor able to remove the risk unless if you are dealing with fixed matches.

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December 22, 2021, 03:56:09 AM
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No such a thing as risk free, not in fights but, in general, not in life. No free meals, no free rides, no 100% safe. Having said that, on the fight you mention the weight difference is spectacular and that is a teller of the result in the wide majority of cases. However, just as you can see it, so can the bookies and those are the odds you are getting, which adds to the previous assertions - this is designed so that you will lose more time than you will win. Play for fun and to make it interesting.
nice answer , But i do love the last part in which "Play for fun and to make it Interesting" because majority of us here plays only on sole purpose and that is to Win and take homemore money same reason why they felt desperate and sad when Losing.

Like also what you said there is no 100%  safe as there are no risk free, so Gamble only when you think you can risk and accept the outcome, but if not then better not to play at all.

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December 22, 2021, 10:52:26 AM
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No such a thing as risk free, not in fights but, in general, not in life. No free meals, no free rides, no 100% safe. Having said that, on the fight you mention the weight difference is spectacular and that is a teller of the result in the wide majority of cases. However, just as you can see it, so can the bookies and those are the odds you are getting, which adds to the previous assertions - this is designed so that you will lose more time than you will win. Play for fun and to make it interesting.
nice answer , But i do love the last part in which "Play for fun and to make it Interesting" because majority of us here plays only on sole purpose and that is to Win and take homemore money same reason why they felt desperate and sad when Losing.

Like also what you said there is no 100%  safe as there are no risk free, so Gamble only when you think you can risk and accept the outcome, but if not then better not to play at all.
Play for fun and to make it interesting should be our reason for gambling, not depend on what gambling games we played but on what we need to remember when we want to play gambling. If we always remember that, we will not try hard to chase the winning instead, just try to enjoy and have fun and make it interesting for ourselves. We will consider that losing here will be part of the gambling game itself but when we win, that is also part of gambling and of course, it is because of our luck. Gamble when we can accept to lose and not desperate because the luck will be necessary and needed to be wise using the money to gamble.

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December 22, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
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Play for fun and to make it interesting should be our reason for gambling, not depend on what gambling games we played but on what we need to remember when we want to play gambling. If we always remember that, we will not try hard to chase the winning instead, just try to enjoy and have fun and make it interesting for ourselves. We will consider that losing here will be part of the gambling game itself but when we win, that is also part of gambling and of course, it is because of our luck. Gamble when we can accept to lose and not desperate because the luck will be necessary and needed to be wise using the money to gamble.

Yes, absolutely right mate, as gamblers, we shouldn't have to forget to have fun while gambling and not just for the sole reason of chasing winning because the more we chase the win the more we lose the chances. However, having fun while gambling should also have a limit, so much fun will sometimes lead us to more spending in gambling and that's somehow a critical case that must be resolved by having self-control and limitation. When it comes to betting to risk-free fights well I don't think that such kind of betting existed.  
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December 22, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

But there are also fixed matches happening. Yes, most of the crowd favorites are winning the game, but sometimes if the game was fixed, they would change it to the opposite side. I agree you should not bet, but how could you enjoy and win something if you don't bet? The best solution is to bet for entertainment and bet what you can afford to lose, so it is not going to hurt in the end. In gambling, there are no risk-free games or fights. It all comes with risk, but the probability of winning is also higher.
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December 22, 2021, 08:55:36 PM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

But there are also fixed matches happening. Yes, most of the crowd favorites are winning the game, but sometimes if the game was fixed, they would change it to the opposite side. I agree you should not bet, but how could you enjoy and win something if you don't bet? The best solution is to bet for entertainment and bet what you can afford to lose, so it is not going to hurt in the end. In gambling, there are no risk-free games or fights. It all comes with risk, but the probability of winning is also higher.
And knowing about fixed matches information is something that you cant really able to do so thats why you cant be sure if it was fixed or totally a fair result out of a certain game.Risk free bets is only applicable into this one but in overall aspect then this is something cant be possible. Everything has risk specially when you are dealing with gambling. You wouldnt know on when those lucky punches or shots would be made even if you do
make out some favorite bets but still that wont really be giving out any assurances for you to win 100%.

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December 22, 2021, 09:20:29 PM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

Betting on the underdog will usually result to a loss. That's actually one way of not betting with minimum risk. If you are going to do that, just make sure you made enough research about that match and the potential winning rate for the underdog as well as understanding the gap from the odd.
Huge gaps usually an easy win for the favourite.
I can also say that betting with the favourite is actually profitable but with very less and minimal amount when you lost once, you'll have to get what you lost after several games betting with the favourites again.

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December 22, 2021, 11:11:46 PM
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Betting isn't for the broke! That's how I see it because if you barely have enough for yourself and you gamble the little you have, you'll end up running bankrupt and getting more wretched.
 Any broke person that is staking his coins will always wanna earn so much with just few bucks or end up staking much coins ( which is almost his life savings) into a dead game.
Gambling is meant for people that doesn't really value the winning; if it comes, fine if it doesn't , very well then....!
I can only do this for pleasure and not as a job. I don't think they is any casino that makes their offers risk free so that's to make a preview that gamblers are losers

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December 22, 2021, 11:18:14 PM
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Betting isn't for the broke! That's how I see it because if you barely have enough for yourself and you gamble the little you have, you'll end up running bankrupt and getting more wretched.


You are right, the gambling principle to follow is to gamble what you can afford, how can a broke person afford to gamble at all? If he will do that, then he certainly has a problem and that is being stupid because what he is doing is digging a hole for him to bury himself in the long run.

When someone is gambling, he should feel the entertainment as well, and a broke person would never feel it.
In the end, understanding the risk and reward is a must, otherwise, we are gambling unrealistically.

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December 23, 2021, 12:27:44 AM
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Betting isn't for the broke! That's how I see it because if you barely have enough for yourself and you gamble the little you have, you'll end up running bankrupt and getting more wretched.


You are right, the gambling principle to follow is to gamble what you can afford, how can a broke person afford to gamble at all? If he will do that, then he certainly has a problem and that is being stupid because what he is doing is digging a hole for him to bury himself in the long run.

When someone is gambling, he should feel the entertainment as well, and a broke person would never feel it.
In the end, understanding the risk and reward is a must, otherwise, we are gambling unrealistically.

It's the hope of winning that makes them bet despite being broke. Winning doesn't happen all the time but if they got lucky to have chosen the lucky champ who won the fight, they'd get the money. Seen many times people who do bet even with so little they have but the hope to get out of that misery is diverted into betting.

It's not unrealistic to analyze which fighter could win but we can be entertained as well to see the strength of one fighter can be suppressed by another. Thus identifying less risky fights is a must.

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December 23, 2021, 02:29:40 AM
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Play for fun and to make it interesting should be our reason for gambling, not depend on what gambling games we played but on what we need to remember when we want to play gambling. If we always remember that, we will not try hard to chase the winning instead, just try to enjoy and have fun and make it interesting for ourselves. We will consider that losing here will be part of the gambling game itself but when we win, that is also part of gambling and of course, it is because of our luck. Gamble when we can accept to lose and not desperate because the luck will be necessary and needed to be wise using the money to gamble.

Yes, absolutely right mate, as gamblers, we shouldn't have to forget to have fun while gambling and not just for the sole reason of chasing winning because the more we chase the win the more we lose the chances. However, having fun while gambling should also have a limit, so much fun will sometimes lead us to more spending in gambling and that's somehow a critical case that must be resolved by having self-control and limitation. When it comes to betting to risk-free fights well I don't think that such kind of betting existed.  
Using limitations is a must for a gambler to manage his money in gambling, preventing him from the big loss. As long as a gambler has a strong hand to manage how much money he uses to gamble, everything will be in his control while enjoying and having fun in gambling. If those betting use money, then there is no risk-free as you will lose the money if you lose so be careful to gamble with your money and not just follow their offers saying that betting to risk-free fights because the risk of losing the money will always be there.

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December 23, 2021, 04:37:42 AM
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Is there really any risk free fight? I doubt. Some fights more risky than the others, but none completely without risk. Betting to what you think is a risk free fight is not an assurance for victory, the losses you fear to incur may still be waiting for you in those fights that you have deemed risk free. The fear of playing it safe always and only betting on risk free fights may mean you never get to win a good reward IMO, because where's the good reward without an equivalent risk?


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December 23, 2021, 06:09:56 AM
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Is there really any risk free fight? I doubt.
Well betting itself is a risk, so if it's risk-free, it's not betting but rather playing around. Even the most uneven match doesn't have a 100% win rate for the more advantageous side. There would always be at least 1% chance of the other side winning due to a lot of factors. A match isn't as simple as 1 + 1, there's a lot of factors involved in a fight though ofc, the biggest factor involved would be the fighters though then, as I said, there's a lot of factors that could affect a players performance, therefore affecting the result of a match.

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December 23, 2021, 11:32:06 AM
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The only risk free is not to gamble at all. As per average, favorites do win most of the time, however, because of the odds, that would still make you unprofitable in the long run.
If you are good to go with just one shot of a bet, then bet on the underdog, but always remember that it could also lose.

Betting on the underdog will usually result to a loss. That's actually one way of not betting with minimum risk. If you are going to do that, just make sure you made enough research about that match and the potential winning rate for the underdog as well as understanding the gap from the odd.
Huge gaps usually an easy win for the favourite.
I can also say that betting with the favourite is actually profitable but with very less and minimal amount when you lost once, you'll have to get what you lost after several games betting with the favourites again.

Yes, it is right.  If you constantly place bets on favorites, then you need to be prepared for the fact that one day your bet will not win. 

At the same time, your loss will be very significant.  This is due to the presence of coefficients.  The odds are set for a reason. 

They take into account the probability of winning and the probability of losing.  According to the mathematical theory of probability. 

A risk free bet is always inside information.  You should have more information about athletes than other players. 

There is no other way.

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December 23, 2021, 02:13:51 PM
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this reminds me of the old saying: "do you want to be right or do you want to make money?"
different ways to approach the world
maybe its better to approach betting as a job than as a pure entertainment activity if you want to win on the long run

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