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May 22, 2023, 10:57:37 AM
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I am not sure if source code can be verified.

knox is only the lockdown of the device, and builds on top of the Android security model. The actual manager of the secret is AirGap Vault and this is 100% verifiable and even the first wallet ever to receive the reproducible the wallet scrutiny score

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Can AirGap Knox be installed on any Android devices, included devices with custom ROM's or Pixel phones that operate with GrapheneOS (not that I would do that), or stock Android must be used?


Knox is meant for Android enterprise devices. which comprises over 550+ devices as of today.

https://androidenterprisepartners.withgoogle.com/devices/#!?device_categories=knowledge_worker

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Correct me if I am wrong but I think we can achieve something similar to disable everything on software level, and for little more money we can already buy brand new hardware wallets.
One more question... can AirGap Knox be removed from device and how?


Hardware security models aswell as the security design in general of mobile devices is way more secure and battle tested compared to the currently available hardware wallets.

The reason is, these devices don't have the privilege of "not care" about the physical attack vector, yet everyone wants to use them them for very security relevant tasks (mobile banking, identity management, etc)

The knox lockdown performed is one step deeper than what is offered to the user through i.e. settings. Also user errors (i.e. accidentally turning on wifi) are taken care of by the lock down.
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May 22, 2023, 08:42:42 PM
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Hardware security models aswell as the security design in general of mobile devices is way more secure and battle tested compared to the currently available hardware wallets.
Maybe that is the case but they only have security updates for few years at most, I think apple has 5 years, samsung flagship devices has 4 years, cheap phones 1 or 2 years, and than they become unsecure.
Since Airgap wallet is based on older device, that means that most of those devices are generally unsecure.

The knox lockdown performed is one step deeper than what is offered to the user through i.e. settings. Also user errors (i.e. accidentally turning on wifi) are taken care of by the lock down.
So is there a way to revert changes to default state with Reset phone function, and remove AigGap later if we changed out minds?

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May 23, 2023, 06:31:25 PM
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So is there a way to revert changes to default state with Reset phone function, and remove AigGap later if we changed out minds?
According to the last FAQ on https://airgap.it/airgap-knox/, there is a reset feature that converts the phone back into a standard Android device. 
@Pearson12 Does it require a password or other type of authentification to reset AirGap Knox and uninstall the device manager?

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May 25, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
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Maybe that is the case but they only have security updates for few years at most, I think apple has 5 years, samsung flagship devices has 4 years, cheap phones 1 or 2 years, and than they become unsecure.
Since Airgap wallet is based on older device, that means that most of those devices are generally unsecure.

Yes, old models are less secure than new models, but nothing stops the user from using a new model. We started with the idea "based on older model" but some of the libraries we use now require users to use more recent OS, which in turn requires them to use new models.

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So is there a way to revert changes to default state with Reset phone function, and remove AigGap later if we changed out minds?

Yes, there is a factory reset button. After factory resetting, your devices comes back to normal.
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May 25, 2023, 01:03:42 PM
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According to the last FAQ on https://airgap.it/airgap-knox/, there is a reset feature that converts the phone back into a standard Android device. @Pearson12 Does it require a password or other type of authentification to reset AirGap Knox and uninstall the device manager?

No further authentication is required to Reset the device. Here is a video that shows how the reset is done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h12Y_HhQQI
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May 26, 2023, 12:16:43 PM
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Is it possible to exchange Bitcoin for cash, or only bank accounts and credit(debit cards are accepted?
I checked out your latest blog post and mtpelerin website but I couldn't find anything about that information.
This is cool stuff and I am supporting anything kyc-free, but I don't get it why should anyone use air-gapped devices for selling/buying bitcoin.

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OK, i found Selling Crypto page on Mtpeleri with more information:
https://www.mtpelerin.com/support#selling

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Any one using Airgap Wallet already. its been 3-4 days i am still undecided which wallet is good to buy for long term.
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October 17, 2023, 06:10:58 PM
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Any one using Airgap Wallet already. its been 3-4 days i am still undecided which wallet is good to buy for long term.
I only had a brief experience [e.g. tests] of using their wallet, so my answer shouldn't matter, but it was good [if you're a newcomer to this field, you might have an easier time with some of the traditional HWs].
- If you ever decide to use this wallet, make sure all of your devices make the cut: Android (5.0 and up), iOS (12 and up)

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i will go first with Keystone 3 Pro. i read many positive feedback about it. later will try Airgap.
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