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June 09, 2021, 03:04:14 PM
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Regarding the taxation of Bitcoin, I would like to know your views.

I think that the development trend of Bitcoin is unstoppable. It took only ten years for Bitcoin to have a significant impact on the world. Gradually, Bitcoin will gradually enter the supervision of the government. If Bitcoin is regarded as a kind of currency, it will affect the original legal currency of the country. However, if Bitcoin is used as an investment commodity, it is bound to face a problem— -tax.

I would like to ask how other countries currently tax Bitcoin. In my understanding, it is difficult to find if Bitcoin is converted into legal currency. In China, we transfer cryptocurrency to others through Binance, and at the same time receive transfers from other people's bank cards. In the view of Bank of China, it is just a simple transfer transaction. If Bitcoin's hash address is one-to-one correspondence with the person, then Bitcoin loses its anonymity. This puzzles me. Taxation and anonymity seem to be opposed.
In my country, there's no legislation regarding Bitcoin yet, so it's not treated in any way for tax purposes. I've heard of some people registering their BTC holdings as a commodity and paying a 20% tax on it, and then not using it. Most people just do whatever they want with their cryptos and don't pay taxes because there's no procedure that would allow to do that. As MPs have to file electronic declarations and mention their assets, income, savings and property, some have declared owning BTC. And the authority on preventing corruption and investigating tax evasion said that they aren't interested in cryptos in this regard, so for now paying no taxes on cryptos is fine.

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June 09, 2021, 03:07:47 PM
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If bitcoin is considered money, it is not taxed, but tax is charged on the value of goods.
For example, Goods are taxed by 5%, the number of bitcoins traded with goods increases by 5%.
If Bitcoins are considered commodities, they will be taxed in the currency used to purchase Bitcoins.
For example, 1Bitcoin is taxed at 5% then Bitcoin buyers will have to pay 5% more of the FIAT used to buy Bitcoin.
I think the above explanation will help you to understand how the goods tax with Bitcoin is calculated. There is probably no country in the world that charges a goods tax with Bitcoin, they only see Bitcoin as a currency if it is used.

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June 15, 2021, 12:01:00 AM
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Regarding the taxation of Bitcoin, I would like to know your views.

I think that the development trend of Bitcoin is unstoppable. It took only ten years for Bitcoin to have a significant impact on the world. Gradually, Bitcoin will gradually enter the supervision of the government. If Bitcoin is regarded as a kind of currency, it will affect the original legal currency of the country. However, if Bitcoin is used as an investment commodity, it is bound to face a problem— -tax.

I would like to ask how other countries currently tax Bitcoin. In my understanding, it is difficult to find if Bitcoin is converted into legal currency. In China, we transfer cryptocurrency to others through Binance, and at the same time receive transfers from other people's bank cards. In the view of Bank of China, it is just a simple transfer transaction. If Bitcoin's hash address is one-to-one correspondence with the person, then Bitcoin loses its anonymity. This puzzles me. Taxation and anonymity seem to be opposed.

Bitcoin should be taxed,because Bitcoin should be treated the same way any other financial asset is being treated by the tax authorities.We have to face the truth-Bitcoin is a financial asset,rather than a currency.
If you want to know how other countries are taxing Bitcoin,just do a research.Don't ask questions on a forum.
Bitcoin isn't anonymous.BTC mixers can make it anonymous(but only if the Bitcoin mixing service is reliable).
 

Well whether it should be taxed or not depends on what it is to a country... for example with El Salvador recognizing bitcoin as legal tender, it means that gains in bitcoin will not be taxed (although this could change with further legislation in the future). In countries like the US where bitcoin is recognized as an asset class (property in the case of US), one has to pay short-term (less than one year) or long-term (more than one year) capital gains taxes depending on how long bitcoin was held before being sold.
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June 15, 2021, 01:45:16 AM
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There are still some countries that seems to be okay with bitcoin but don't have much regulation towards taxation.
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You are right, if countries dare to levy taxes then I think they should dare to give flexibility to Bitcoin transactions. Don't just want the money, but the rules are tightened and there are many restrictions. This is tantamount to the state taking it forcibly without protection. In my country it is true that crypto is not completely legal and cannot be substituted for payment. But my country has regulated crypto as just an asset.
Countries that have that type of ruling towards cryptocurrencies is a good country and their citizens don't have to worry about hiding to the government or feeling bad about the governance because of it. It is fine if the government of a country only sees bitcoin as an asset because that's what we've been looking at it. As long as they're allowing people to trade and use it freely, there's not that much to think of it because of its decentralization should be against what the government is advocating but instead, it's allowed.

Of course it's a good thing if a country makes rules related to Bitcoin, because the government is planning to legalize crypto.
It doesn't matter the government only allows using Bitcoin only as a digital asset, and has not allowed it to be used as a means of payment.
Because it is necessary for the government to gradually accept Bitcoin, we sometimes have to be wise about government decisions.
The most important thing is that we can use Bitcoin without feeling afraid because of government restrictions. In my own country
the government doesn't allow using Bitcoin as payment, and I don't have a problem with that. Rather than a country that banned Bitcoin,
I think it's a country that is too closed to technological developments. Whereas the state can benefit if it legalizes Bitcoin by imposing taxes,
and that's the thing to do in my opinion.

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June 15, 2021, 05:28:14 AM
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Crypto is supposed to be anonymous, how does the state know who will or who owns crypto
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